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Offline Mars

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You may as well just dock to TC-Tris to the Fenithans "Nose-Docks".
It would look VVV Stoopid but it could work. Hmmmmmm

Actually, i could make modular weapon pods for those nose-docks..

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Balancing, probably.
So why is the Aeolus capable of destroying the Mentu while possessing a greater anti-fighter array?
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leaving the brute anti-cap force to the ageing Orion, soon to be replaced by the pocket-battleship that is the Deimos.

I'm not totally convinced the Orion was intended to be totally replaced by the Deimos. It does say in the techroom that it was supposed to replace the Fenris and Leviathan classes. Why they would want to do that is anyone's guess, then again this IS Command that we are talking about.
Maybe because Fenathan cruisers are beam bait?

 

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Balancing, probably.
So why is the Aeolus capable of destroying the Mentu while possessing a greater anti-fighter array?

How the hell would I know?  :p

 

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aeolus cruisers are soooo much more sexy than fenris or levi cruisers!!!  :nod:

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Oi, don't you owe us textbook scans?

 

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Oi, don't you owe us textbook scans?
Why do you say that every time Zman posts?

 

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Oi, don't you owe us textbook scans?
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Oi, don't you owe us textbook scans?
Why do you say that every time Zman posts?

Because he does, search his posts in the HLP main forum and you will see why.
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Offline Mars

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aeolus cruisers are soooo much more sexy than fenris or levi cruisers!!!  :nod:

Asthetically I prefer Fenathan cruisers.

 

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umm well one good thing came out of the thread actualy more then one but one I prefere and that is that the old cruiser classes and the Orion will still be around for at least anothe decade. Cant say that i dont like it. I love the boxy shape of the Orion! That is one pure terran design!
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Oi, don't you owe us textbook scans?
Why do you say that every time Zman posts?

Remember the bastardin great evolution thread?

He posted and said he had a textbook that had 'proof' evolution was wrong.  Naturally, we asked for scans of said textbook (or were they offered?  I forgot).

Anyways, asked to provide any sort of basis for some patently ridiculous and sadly ill-informed statements, and having promised said scans......he buggered off for a few months.  And I want to see my scans, dammit!

 

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umm well one good thing came out of the thread actualy more then one but one I prefere and that is that the old cruiser classes and the Orion will still be around for at least anothe decade. Cant say that i dont like it. I love the boxy shape of the Orion! That is one pure terran design!
nothing screams raw and pure overcompensation the way GTD Orion does :p :D ;)
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nothing screams raw and pure overcompensation the way GTD Orion does :p :D ;)
Overcompensation for what? :nervous:

 

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umm well one good thing came out of the thread actualy more then one but one I prefere and that is that the old cruiser classes and the Orion will still be around for at least anothe decade. Cant say that i dont like it. I love the boxy shape of the Orion! That is one pure terran design!
nothing screams raw and pure overcompensation the way GTD Orion does :p :D ;)

Why, have you got something you'd like to share with us?

 

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Oi, don't you owe us textbook scans?
Why do you say that every time Zman posts?

Remember the bastardin great evolution thread?

He posted and said he had a textbook that had 'proof' evolution was wrong.  Naturally, we asked for scans of said textbook (or were they offered?  I forgot).

Anyways, asked to provide any sort of basis for some patently ridiculous and sadly ill-informed statements, and having promised said scans......he buggered off for a few months.  And I want to see my scans, dammit!
i apologize for that.  my life had gotten really busy and i wasnt on the computer that much...  it went from 5 hours a day to almost a mere 45 minutes at time....

I just had alot of friends coming and going and i kinda had crushed on a friend at that same time, which was a big deal so i had other things to worry about.

I'll do those scans but i am NOT posting in that Evolution thread....

Please dont bug me anymore!  And yes they were offered.
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nothing screams raw and pure overcompensation the way GTD Orion does :p :D ;)
Overcompensation for what? :nervous:
why do you even ask? :p
umm well one good thing came out of the thread actualy more then one but one I prefere and that is that the old cruiser classes and the Orion will still be around for at least anothe decade. Cant say that i dont like it. I love the boxy shape of the Orion! That is one pure terran design!
nothing screams raw and pure overcompensation the way GTD Orion does :p :D ;)

Why, have you got something you'd like to share with us?
did i design the orion?
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Just because the Hecate can't go up against a Shivan warship with the same voracity that a Hatshepsut can bring to bear, doesn't necissarily mean the design is a failure, and to think so is to simply be presumptuous.

No, actually it's not. Because for a rear-area role to work, there has to be an actual rear area, and that does not exist in Freespace terms. Every ship in the system is equally vunerable to attack without warning, because of intrasystem subspace jumps. The Hecate's design and space warfare as practiced by FS don't mesh. At the best, some serious errors were commited with Hecate.
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No, actually it's not. Because for a rear-area role to work, there has to be an actual rear area, and that does not exist in Freespace terms. Every ship in the system is equally vunerable to attack without warning, because of intrasystem subspace jumps. The Hecate's design and space warfare as practiced by FS don't mesh. At the best, some serious errors were commited with Hecate.
But we've not seen large fleet operations, so we don't truly know all that much about space-warfare techniques as practiced by the GTVA.

Now, every ship in a contested system is not immediately in the firing line, as - while you can jump anywhere in the system - you need to know where the hell you're going, meaning a scouting operation beforehand, which gives you a little bit of warning before 6 Orions jump in on top of you. Moreover, by 'rear area', I mean that by context, whether by standing 20 kilometres from a node blockade, or sitting near the node into a hostile system to stand as a base for launching fighters and fleet C&C. IMO, the Hecate was given enough firepower to defend itself until it's true power - over 150 fighter-craft - can bring forth the hurt. Of course, there are abberations, such as the Aquitaine moving into the Nebula, a decidedly hostile system theorised to hold one or more Shivan destroyers. However, this can be taken as an non-standard operation, given that "reconnaissance in force" is needed, and a beach-head was required to be established in-system. Furthermore, given our distinct lack of knowledge regarding the greater situation regarding fleet organisation at that point of the Civil War, not to mention the confusion and panic that would have erupted given the appearance of the Shivans, it is likely an extraordinary occurence.
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Umm then please do tell me what makes the Hecate better then an Orion in this case?? Sure it mai hold another 50 spacecraft's but then again the Orions 100 or so spacecrafts are not to be taken lightly. Hell all you have to do is track down from where all the fighters are coming jump there with the Orion fire 2 salvos of those BG and the Hecate is gone with all of its 150 spacecrafts.

I'm not sayng that the Hecate is not a good ship. Hell no i think its a great carrier but sucks as a destroyer. Or rather it should be put in a class of its own. I mean even a deimos can take the blasted thing down. And the Deimos does not have to worry about those spacecrafts sine well it has superb af defences.

I'm not saing give the blasted Hecate BG all around i'm just saind mount a f*****g BG on the side for cryng out loud. God even the Iceni had more firepower in terms of beam cannons although that is rather a streched to the braking point comparison since it was a one of ship.

But still if I was to go into combat against an enemy that has superior subspace tech i would much rather go with the Hatsheepsuit or the Orion then the Hecate which I would stick somewhere in acorner to proide C&C and fighter support. Of course I would also be sticking a couple of vasudan corvettes with is just for that unforseen event.
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