[Nightmare]

Never heard of Knossos allowing you to give the individual files version numbers.

That is making the assumption that MediaVPs are structured solely based on what Knossos can do; Knossos is the distribution plattfrom not work plattform as far as I am aware. Other software to manage a shared database allow for these things.

I can't tell about Knossos dev mode, but unless you're having access to FSU SVN you probably won't be able to tell whether a table, or a different file in, say MV_Assets_T has been updated.

[mjn.mixael]

What's the specific use-case where someone wants to use MediaVPs table data enough that they have to tediously copy all that data to a new table, but also doesn't want to use the MediaVPs as a secondarylist mod?

I often use the MVP stats when I upgrade retail-level modpacks. As they are using the MVPs I tend to copy/paste/adapt the MVP stats to ensure that they go in line with their "look and feel" (ie piercing effects, damage type for weapons/effects and loadout stats for ships etc). The same goes for making ship variants.

Unfortunately, I don't see that as being a large enough use-case to completely restructure the mediavps. I did that myself for a handful of ships when I built BtA. It's annoying but not difficult.

[DefCynodont119]

What's the specific use-case where someone wants to use MediaVPs table data enough that they have to tediously copy all that data to a new table, but also doesn't want to use the MediaVPs as a secondarylist mod?

I often use the MVP stats when I upgrade retail-level modpacks. As they are using the MVPs I tend to copy/paste/adapt the MVP stats to ensure that they go in line with their "look and feel" (ie piercing effects, damage type for weapons/effects and loadout stats for ships etc). The same goes for making ship variants.

Unfortunately, I don't see that as being a large enough use-case to completely restructure the mediavps. I did that myself for a handful of ships when I built BtA. It's annoying but not difficult.

Off topic but I think that this isn't an MVP's problem:

I wonder if that could be done with some-kind of batch file or script outside the game. . .   

Or maybe as a feature in the F3 Lab? should be possible to code in I think.

[Nightmare]

Ok, I'll have to live with it then.

There is a feature similar to that in FRED but it's only for ships and only displays the table snippets, not the finally used table.

[Nightmare]

OK, next idea: can we get rid of that old shockwave effect? It hasn't been updated since almost 10 years or so and the one from INF looks so much better.

[mjn.mixael]

post links and screenshots.. more useful than a directive.

[Nightmare]

Here're the files: https://www.mediafire.com/file/ad1ev8smzlvzsnl/Shockwave01.7z/file

The are a couple shockwaves at the 2:00 mark: https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=36740.msg1887298#msg1887298

[mjn.mixael]

I dunno about that shockwave. It's very different from the usual in terms of its animation speed. What do others think?

[Nyctaeus]

I love INF one. There is another one in ED modpack that is more similar to current ones we have in MVPs. Might be worth to check out.

[mjn.mixael]

As far as I know, I've got everything delivered for MediaVPs 3.9. Last chance to offer suggestions....

[Nightmare]

Here's the ED version: https://www.mediafire.com/file/wq2gahm947cs4cf/ShockwaveED.7z/file

I prefer INFs shockwave though.

[tomimaki]

Better radar icons?

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[Galemp]

I made the original set of radar icons to scale with the 2D radar. How do yours look there?

[tomimaki]

It's not mine, but BirdofPrey's.

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[mjn.mixael]

I'm very unfamliar with the radar icons and what's actually changed. Galemp, I'd love your input on including this or not. I'd like to get this release out Soon (tm).

[Nightmare]

Did you make any decision regarding the shockwaves yet?

[mjn.mixael]

I'm including the INF ones. People seem to like them.

[Galemp]

The radar icons now are definitely smaller than what I had rendered them for--may have something to do with new HUD code. In any case I approve of the higher-fidelity icons provided in these posts.

[mjn.mixael]

4.1 Currently includes...

Randomized explosion sound pack
Hecate
Chronos
AmazonAdv
TAC1
Zephyrus
Aeolus
Mission bugfixes
Shivan Flak effects
Other misc minor fixes

[Nightmare]

Nice

BTW, what has become of that Arcadia with fixed paths and 2 more docking points I made?