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Offline Admiral Nelson

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BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
Wing Commander Saga

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Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn concludes a forty-year galactic struggle between the Terran Confederation and the Kilrathi Empire, an imperialistic, xenophopic alien race. Victory and survival for humanity can only be bought at a terrible cost. Gather your wingmen and face the enemy. Make your mark as the Confederation faces its darkest dawn.

This beta version of Wing Commander Saga has been modified for use with standard FSO builds 3.8.x or later. Additionally, Some new features as documented below have been added.  Note that no changes of any kind have been made to plot, characters etc.  I have decided to release this beta version to try and generate interest in Wing Commander modding for FSO, rather than wait for every last feature to be fully finished.  Please let me know if you have any interest in further enhancing this release.

1) INSTALLATION

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2) CREDITS

WCSaga team - Original concept and campaign
WC Saga Deutch mod team - capital ship debris
Admiral Nelson - Patch to standard FSO as documented below
FrikgFeek - Testing
Axem - Model assistance
Nyctaeus - fighter LODs, debris and cleanup
X3N0-Life-Form - Dialogue skip, battle boards
MatthTheGeek - Original Alpha port
Goober5000 - checkpoint prototype

Special thanks to FrikgFeek for his tireless testing and debugging, and to Admiral Ralwood for implementing fixes for the issues detected in this process.

3) CHANGES IN THIS RELEASE

All missions, models, effects, HUD , interface etc ported to be compliant with standard FSO
Addition of MediaVPs style effects such as muzzle flashes, missile lens flares, flashy deaths and more
Debris for all capital ships and many Kilrathi fighters
Additional pirate taunts and death screams
Moved to autopilot takeoff and landings instead of player controlled as in WC3
APNG cbanis
The ability to skip dialogue in the darkest dawn campaign
Activated pilot self praise dialogue that was recorded but unused in the original release
Minor FRED bugfixes
Spelling fixes

4) KNOWN ISSUES / TO DOs

Unimplemented WC Saga features
The Longbow in this release has 4 secondary banks where it had 6 in WC Saga.  There were no missions in which the 2 extra secondary banks had a loadout which varied in a way in which this would cause any issues.
WC Saga had the ability to completely hide a ship's actual name from the player, which is presently not available in FSO
WC Saga had the ability to force battle music on when fighting stealth fighters, which is also not presently implemented

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TO DOS
Change landing cutscene camera location in each mission
Review launch message ANIs and make sure they are length appropriate
Check uvec/fvec values on Yorktown -class angled turrets
Add checkpoints as appropriate
Add dialogue skip to prologue
Add wingmen taunts in the same way Kilrathi taunts are implemented
Some Kilrathi fighters still need debris
The dialogue skip can break mission 9
The Terran cruiser's name is visible in mission 20
« Last Edit: September 21, 2021, 10:20:48 am by Admiral Nelson »
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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
whoa this owns

 

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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
I do not think, that the enhancements that were made by Wing Commander Saga Plus are not going to be included in this release?
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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
The capship debris from their Truemmer Mod are added.  I have not added their newer interface items yet, however.
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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
So Much Yes.
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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
Get this on Knossos, stat
If I'm just aching this can't go on
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There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
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Oooooooh.    So this will work with cheats now? (What are the cheats on these new builds by the way?)
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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
....the same as they've always been?
If I'm just aching this can't go on
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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
Does this have both the main campaign and the prologue campaign?

 

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....the same as they've always been?

It's been so long since I used them, I remember them being disabled somehow somewhere  (maybe a standalone mod?) There was an escorts mission in he original campaign I just couldn't quite beat and I think the old cheateroonies will help me get past it.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
That mission is 100% fixed now; you don't need any cheataroonies. :)
« Last Edit: January 16, 2018, 03:01:12 pm by Admiral Nelson »
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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
Does this have both the main campaign and the prologue campaign?

Yes it does.
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Sounds very interesting. :)

The capship debris from their Truemmer Mod are added.  I have not added their newer interface items yet, however.

Just so I (and others) understand correctly: Are there any plans to include any or all of the features from WCS Plus/WCS Deutsch at some point? Is a possible cooperation with the team behind WCS Plus/WCS Deutsch under consideration?
(Personally, I like both projects as both aim to improve WCS but I honestly think it would make sense to join forces on this one to prevent any possible unnecessary incompatibility between both and... have the best of both worlds.)

On a side note: I'd still love seeing WCS-modding taking off properly. :)
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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
Personally I am not familiar with the WCS Plus. What  features does WCS Plus offer over the standard WCS?

 
Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
Personally I am not familiar with the WCS Plus. What  features does WCS Plus offer over the standard WCS?

There are many changes over the standard WCS build, which was based on FSO 3.6.12.
So instead of listing these here myself, I simply share the links to the right topics. :)

https://www.wcnews.com/chatzone/threads/wing-commander-saga-plus-pack-development-started.28521/
https://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.wcsaga.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D9%26t%3D14 (Translated from German by Google Translator)
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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
The thing with a lot of the WCS+ stuff is that those are changes to the codebase itself and not to the mod components -- I'm not a coder and I've never looked at the codebase.  The changes described seemed to be focused mostly on the interface portion. There is already a project going on to move the FSO interface away from its present clumsy implementation, and so one would likely want to make those interface changes in that new standard system.

My goal in making this was to try and revive interest in Wing Commander modding in general by making Saga available in a modern and supported build, so I'd certainly welcome any interest in such projects from anyone.  There are many things that could be done with it now -- for instance m|m's truetype font support would allow for using Slicker and other proper WC fonts throughout the mod. Scooby has made prototype cockpits which support render to texture which could be added.  And of course, since it is now in standard FSO, multiplayer and cross platform support are a given.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2018, 04:53:12 am by Admiral Nelson »
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Re: BETA RELEASE: Wing Commander Saga for FSO
Personally I am not familiar with the WCS Plus. What  features does WCS Plus offer over the standard WCS?

There are many changes over the standard WCS build, which was based on FSO 3.6.12.
So instead of listing these here myself, I simply share the links to the right topics. :)

https://www.wcnews.com/chatzone/threads/wing-commander-saga-plus-pack-development-started.28521/
https://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.wcsaga.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D9%26t%3D14 (Translated from German by Google Translator)

Can you ask somewhere, if the WCSaga Deutsch Team is interested to make a Knossos compatible release of their translation? I think that would be nice move, because i also have released my translations on it (except for BtA, because i am still working on a new major release) :).
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The ability to skip dialogue in the darkest dawn campaign
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