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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The FRED Workshop => Topic started by: Darkage on July 12, 2003, 03:43:52 pm
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I was kinda bored today so i wrote a tutorial for beginers. So tell me what you think.:)
Tutorial (http://www.robeer.mine.nu/freespace/tutorial.htm)
or
Here (http://www.robeer.mine.nu)
The images may take a while to load as they are in PNG format.
Can a admin make this thread a stickie?
Or post news about it?:D
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YAY! for Darkage! :D We need more FREDders!
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23 views and not a single reply except for Tiara:rolleyes:
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Check the spelling mistakes! doesm, suply, whit etc.
I suggest you add the briefing the $f front of the GTD, to teach the future newbie to colored fonts in the briefing. :)
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Originally posted by TopAce
Check the spelling mistakes! doesm, suply, whit etc.
I suggest you add the briefing the $f front of the GTD, to teach the future newbie to colored fonts in the briefing. :)
I should have stated in my first post that my spelling and grammar sucks.:)
good point i'll add them later.
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Gonna write a more advanced tutorial later.
And add some things to this tutorial.
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C'mon guys... reply of be chopped!:hopping:
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Seems like no one gives a damn.
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I think the one included with FRED is of much better use for newbies. What's really needed is a comprehensive documentation on creating an advanced, complex mission like those found in the BWO demo (they're the benchmark I use for the best missions anyone can make).
Sid.
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I thought i made a basic mission first before i start the more advanced stuff.
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Don't mind me but... how can FRED be advanced? The only thing that really needs to be advanced is your creative skills. FRED is ub3r easy :p
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FREDing is easy if you sit down and you say: 'let's create a bomber mission!' You place down a destroyer, and perhaps a cruiser if you have a mood to do, some enemy fighters, and friendly bombers and fighters. The mission is ready. If you are to follow a storyline, or created a mission which is more complicated, for example you want to make scramble mission when you have to defend two cruisers, who have fallen under attack by a corvette, and you want that corvette to destroy both cruisers with ease, but the two cruisers are stronger than the corvette, and without losses. You cannot change the corvette to a destroyer, because Mr. Projectleader orders you to follow his description of the mission. What's up then?
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Originally posted by TopAce
FREDing is easy if you sit down and you say: 'let's create a bomber mission!' You place down a destroyer, and perhaps a cruiser if you have a mood to do, some enemy fighters, and friendly bombers and fighters. The mission is ready. If you are to follow a storyline, or created a mission which is more complicated, for example you want to make scramble mission when you have to defend two cruisers, who have fallen under attack by a corvette, and you want that corvette to destroy both cruisers with ease, but the two cruisers are stronger than the corvette, and without losses. You cannot change the corvette to a destroyer, because Mr. Projectleader orders you to follow his description of the mission. What's up then?
I said FREDding itsself is easy. The creation of a complex mission layout is hard indeed. But SEXPing, objectives, and everything else is simple to understand. It's the layout of a mission that is hard to create. Once you have the layout, creating a mission is very easy.
*Note: Creating a layout is NOT part of FREDding. Hence FREDding is easy.
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Yeah, but it is really not good if you have all your two hands and ten fingers tied.
I mean 'FREDing' the same as 'creating a mission', so from the very beginning(writing what the mission is about) till the completion of the full mission, with eventaully voices(if you have the possibility doing that).
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Hmmm. I like this. :) I don't think it's as detailed as the walkthrough that comes with FRED but I think it's a good idea to tell newbies to do this one straight afterwards :) I'll put a link up in the FAQ today.
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Originally posted by karajorma
Hmmm. I like this. :) I don't think it's as detailed as the walkthrough that comes with FRED but I think it's a good idea to tell newbies to do this one straight afterwards :) I'll put a link up in the FAQ today.
Thanks, atleast one positief reaction.
I'll write one more detailed. Mission planning, more complicated events, surprises. etc.
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Originally posted by Darkage
Thanks, atleast one positief reaction.
*cough* :rolleyes:
Also, mission planning is not FREDding IMO as its not done in FRED. But thats just me...
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Originally posted by Tiara
*cough* :rolleyes:
Also, mission planning is not FREDding IMO as its not done in FRED. But thats just me...
Oops, sorry T:D
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Originally posted by Darkage
....I'll write one more detailed. Mission planning, more complicated events, surprises. etc.
What surprises? I can imagine as a player is flying a mission to escort an Orion from x to y and suddenly a face of a claw is launched from the side of the Orion, watching at the player and continously firing the Morning Star at the player. :D
We'll want to see the update!
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YES! I believe that is the way to go to get more and more people FREDing.
Nice one. Can't wait to see the next lessons.
D. we can't be online all the time, but we do appreciate what we see here.
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Good job in destroying the convoy alpha wing! The less suply's the Shivans get the better. We also got word from command that we have won 90 percent of the engagements comensed in the system. Also in a few hours command is going to brief the Terran/Vasudan commanders on the new operation ment to clear out the Vega system of all Shivans.
Sorry, couldn't resist. See if this is better:
Good job destroying the convoy, Alpha! The fewer supplies the Shivans have the better. We also recieved word from Command that Allied forces have won 90 pervent of all engagements commenced in-system. In a few hours, Command is going to brief the Terran/Vasudan commanders on the new operation in which Vega will be cleared of Shivans.
Anyway, great work on the tutorial. As Sesqui says, it's simplex, but gives the general feel for FREDding.
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Originally posted by Tiara
Don't mind me but... how can FRED be advanced? The only thing that really needs to be advanced is your creative skills. FRED is ub3r easy :p
yeah....after i finished the main campegihn i went straight to figuring out FRED.......
it took me 4 hours to get it all down...
ofc i dont FRED anymore cuz 1. my missions ideas we A. already taken B. sucked And 2. FRED crashes alot.
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Originally posted by nuclear1
Sorry, couldn't resist. See if this is better:
Anyway, great work on the tutorial. As Sesqui says, it's simplex, but gives the general feel for FREDding.
I am glad you did correct it:D
Yup, i was aiming for that. So people can get started.
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This is fubared the damn server won't boot. Meh, need more time to see whats wrong.
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I would see it but the server is currently non-existent..anyhow like Sid said the help included is pretty good for beginners, but if you made an advanced one that would be pretty helpful to the community :nod:
oh and heres a nice quote I actually got from a lot of places..:rolleyes:
if it doesn't work on paper it won't work when you code it
lets convert this
if you don't write your plan on paper it will take 10x the amount of time to develop it :p
this all means; map out your mission before going into FRED2
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Originally posted by Max
......if it doesn't work on paper it won't work when you code it
lets convert this
if you don't write your plan on paper it will take 10x the amount of time to develop it :p
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This is not always true in the case of FREDing, it is not necessarly important to plan a mission on paper before, it is sufficent to have it in mind, or at most if you're planning a camp, you write down which mission is about what, what's its importance in the story etc.
In case of a single mission(even multi mission), it is sometimes enough to start FRED, see the ship list, you see: SD Demon, and this comes to your mind: Let's simulate a Vasudan attack on a Demon in this mission. Placing ships, test, test - Difficulty OK, adding events, goals, background etc.
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I have to admit your totally right there TopAce :p
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Originally posted by Max
I have to admit your totally right there TopAce :p
Thank you :)
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Yay for Darkage! :D
Great work. Good for easing someone into FRED without chucking all the fiddly crap at them in the first five minutes. :yes: :yes: :yes:
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Yay for Darkage! :D
Great work. Good for easing someone into FRED without chucking all the fiddly crap at them in the first five minutes. :yes: :yes: :yes:
This is really one of the bests about 'how to get started', and it doesn't take functions lesson by lesson in a different mission, it explains and examples a single mission.
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Well the server is up and running again after a long down time. Sorry for that. And thanks for all the comments people;)
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Hi all!
I think FRED with it SEXP type coding is the best editor i've used
(much better than the nasty Operation: Flashpoint kit)
The tutorial was/is excellent too.:)