[Nico]

Originally posted by Woolie Wool


I still think that if you want a bunch of small beams, you should spread them across the hull. A row of seven slashers instead of a cluster of them could strip away turrets all over the enemy's hull in seconds.

ever heard of "it's better to focus all your attention on a single target, one at a time?".
And I see the benefits of having multiple smaller beams rather than a big one. In fact that ship makes me think than one big beam is never as good as the same number of smaller beams that, together, deal the same amount of damage.

[Setekh]

Welcome to the highlights, Hamano.

[Black Wolf]

It's his design, so he's free to do what he wants with it, but It'd strike me that logically, multiple beams should be spread out, if only to prevent a single helios equivalent Shivan bomb from taking out 90% of a ships fighting power. Admittedly, if the enemy's firing helioses, you're in trouble anyway, but surely the ability to take seven shots and keep kicking would be better than only taking one.

[Nico]

Well, to me it doesn't seem that those 7 beams are the only ones on the ship, so what are you rambling about anyway?

[Hamano]

Thank you for many replies.

Orion Phase 2 has 3 beam clusters.
One is placed front, others placed left and right.
Even if front one is destroyed, still side clusters can fire.

Beam cluster is based on an idea, "Built with technology we already have".
It is made by gathering existing beam cannons instaed of developping new big beam cannon.
Orion Phase 2 is an upgrade remodeling ship, so this idea is suitable than placing new big weapon.
New big weapon will be placed on newly developped destroyer.

I will put Mjornirbeam#home or Mjornirbeam into beam clusters.

Images of the day: Side beam cluster




I think this firing is cool! and engine glows done.

[Nico]

3 clusters? Lol, way to go :yes:
The reason makes sense, but with something like that, would be cool to have large heat radiators next to them

[Sheepy]

Originally posted by Woolie Wool
You haven't had much experience with the Sathanas and Ravana. Put a Colossus behind a Sathanas and deploy some bombers to attack the main beams and the Sath is dog meat. Put an Orion or Hatshepsut behind a Ravana and it's definitely toast, bombers or no bombers.

You could do the same with a group of Levi's ... whats your point?

[Nico]

you could also reply:
Put a Sathanas behind a Colossus, don't even bother deploying bombers and whatnot, and the colossus is dog meat. Or to put even more shame, put the Sathanas right in front of the Colossus ( and the Colossus will go and ram it, wheeeeeeeeeee! )

[JC Denton]

Very nice work you got there, Hamano-san!  

And from that perspective shot with the Ravana, it looks like it's got a sizable engine array.  How fast is it, compared to the original Orion?

[Woolie Wool]

Originally posted by Nico
you could also reply:
Put a Sathanas behind a Colossus, don't even bother deploying bombers and whatnot, and the colossus is dog meat. Or to put even more shame, put the Sathanas right in front of the Colossus ( and the Colossus will go and ram it, wheeeeeeeeeee! )

Yeah, but the Sath can't expect to be facing the enemy every time. A good ship should have it's armament, especially anti-fighter armament, spread out. ESPECIALLY anti-fighter weapons. Try bombing a Colossus and you'll see the advantages of spread-out weapons. There's no escape.:devil:

[StratComm]

Woolie, give it up.  You're making very little sense... the Colossus was the biggest hunk of junk in the entire Freespace saga.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Woolie Wool


Yeah, but the Sath can't expect to be facing the enemy every time. A good ship should have it's armament, especially anti-fighter armament, spread out. ESPECIALLY anti-fighter weapons. Try bombing a Colossus and you'll see the advantages of spread-out weapons. There's no escape.:devil:

Yup, especially antifighter, ok. Those are anticapship beams, right?
Right.
To kill a capship, you need to have as much power as possible focused on one point. Right?
Right.
So, what's the pb with that ship?

[mikhael]

One would think that it is obvious that the beam clusters on Hamano's O2 aren't for taking down fighters.

One might also think that Hamano's THREE beam clusters make it obvious that he gave consideration to the idea that attacks come from all angles.

One must consider that Wollie is just looking for thinks to ***** and whine about, however, and dismiss the other facts.

[Taristin]

Originally posted by mikhael

One must consider that Wollie is just looking for thinks to ***** and whine about, however, and dismiss the other facts.

Phallic!

[magatsu1]

Those beam clusters look mental......I like it!

The one big advantage the Sath has over the Colossus is it's focused firepower. That was the first thing I noticed when I saw High Noon. (or whatever the face off mission was called)

Even broadside from the C. is a little under-whelming.

[Woolie Wool]

Anyway, I might put it in Starforce after editing the beam clusters to turn them into single huge beam cannons designed to melt a planet's surface (or blast a destroyer to smithereens) in one blast and retexturing it to fit the Microsol Consortium style. The Olemus' front beam turrets look a bit too small for the enormous main beams. And it appears to be just the right size--3-4 kilometers in length.

I could even just keep the multiple barrels and use some techroom technobabble to pass them off as multiple emitters whose shots are focused into a single antimatter beam in the center.

[pyro-manic]

Mate, I am SO getting this when you've finished it!

You ROCK!

[Nico]

Originally posted by Raa Tor'h


Phallic!

good timing, most excellent
there, a coockie for you

[Starks]

I WANNA SEE GIGAS VERSUS ORION MK II!

[Nico]

Originally posted by LLivingLarge
I WANNA SEE GIGAS VERSUS ORION MK II!

Nah, you do it wrong, let me show you:

TEh GIGAS IT OWNZ THAT YOU FARTZ!!!!111111ONE

Yeah, that's more like it.
Personaly I wanna see an anubis versus a ravana.