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Offline Thaeris

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
Damn Skippy, you're going places with that!  :D :yes:

I do have another profile sketch in the works if you're interested, so I might be able to post something this afternoon.
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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
I'm always interested to see some more sketches :)

 

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
What app is that by the way, Blender?
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Offline TomShak

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
Yup, Blender. I'd not used it before, but I'm fairly pleased with it now I've got used to it.

 

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
I've noticed that on the vertical wing you've used the same mounting as the Lambda, down to the exact shape.  You have to be careful when doing that, because the human eye will use that as a scaling clue.  As a result, things like that can make it look a little off, as if it should be bigger or smaller than it is.  I think it'd be better if it was the same style, but a slightly different shape.

I've found a good trick when dealing with similar greebles with different scales is to reduce the count of of a repeating objects for a smaller version, or a higher count for a larger one.  In this case, to keep the sense of scale right, you could remove one of the ribs from the side.
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Offline TomShak

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
Thanks brandx0, I see what you mean :) I'll do that, that's a useful tip to remember in future :)

I may require some assistance from people with the greebles, not done anything like that before so could definitely use some extra eyes to see if they look good or not ... not quite on greebling yet, but getting close to having the basic shape done.

 

Offline newman

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
Quick photoshop job to illustrate my suggestions:



As you can see I enlarged the missile pods and thickened the wings a bit - they were a tad on the flimsy side. Maybe they should be enlarged/thickened even more. I'd also round off the missile pod's corner angles a bit more.
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Offline TomShak

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I agree on thicker wings :) But personally not sold on the bigger engine pods. I've also tried pods which are "smoother" but in my opinion they don't look as good, the smoothness of the pods contrasts too much with the hard lines of the wings and cockpit - it all looks a bit out of place.

 

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What do you think this is newman, a DX9?  ;)
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Offline newman

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
No, but I don't much like the craft/weapons capacity ratio I'm seeing here. This thing's purpose is to launch torps and cause some pain, and it seems 90% of it's mass has nothing to do with that. I also like the styling on fractal's missile pods better, the round angles sell the thing for me. Just my personal quirk, though; I know from personal experience no matter what you do someone will find it too wide/slim/bulky/long/gray/mysterious/whatever - so carry on. What's important is he sticks with it and finishes the gunboat :)
« Last Edit: June 07, 2011, 12:58:57 pm by newman »
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Offline TomShak

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
Another update ... now with cockpit, and some detail underneath. Plus a view from the back because we haven't had one of those yet.



 

Not sure whether to go for the cockpit as above (most like the Lambda) or whether to add crossbars to divide it into 6 pieces ...

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
A thicker canopy structure definately, as is it's extremely thin.

 

Offline brandx0

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
Actually I like the thin canopy structure.  It contrasts the thicker rebel ships.
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Offline TomShak

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
I think it also fits better with the lambda's lines which are very thin


 

Offline CountBuggula

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
So a little update on some new shapes I've been working on. I think this still looks like an Assault Gunboat, but also feels a bit more like the Lamba shuttle ...









Let me know what you think ...

Am I the only one that liked the direction you were going with this cockpit more than the current one?  I really liked the smoother "lambda" feel to it, which really set it more apart from rebel fighters.  I like the rest of your model, just not a big fan of the cockpit.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
Guess I forgot about that. Been a long time seeing it.

 

Offline CountBuggula

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
Here's what I'm envisioning as a good compromise of your newer nose shape but with a more lambda-feeling cockpit:


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Offline CountBuggula

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
I think it also fits better with the lambda's lines which are very thin



Are you talking about the white lines across the cockpit?  I always thought those were reflections, not actual pylons.  Anyone have any shots that can confirm one or the other?

 

Offline Thaeris

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
Here's what I'm envisioning as a good compromise of your newer nose shape but with a more lambda-feeling cockpit:


I have to disagree on that one - that's pretty "blah" appearance-wise.

The AG canopy is actually, as far as Imperial fighters go, pretty good. The break at the end of the forward frame lifts the canopy slightly, allowing the pilot a degree of visibility to the rear. My take on the design pushes this a little further still, giving the apex of the canopy a slight peak... stand by for drawings...
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Offline TomShak

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Re: Resurrecting the Assault Gunboat
Okay easy enough to compare:

   

What do people prefer?


Re: the lines on the lambda shuttle, they're on every image of the Lambda I've seen .. and they're always in the same place. So I think they are part of the cockpit, reflections tend to move with the light source.