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Offline General Battuta

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Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
I thought we all agreed the Mixalot got to stay. The page got protected with the Mixalot there!

Then it got unprotected and somebody removed the Mixalot and now it has been protected again with no Mixalot. Why the reversal? Mods??

 

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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
we all agreed

Nope. At no point in history it was widely accepted by this community.
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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
You don't speak for the community, Mobius.


I vote Mixalot stays.


EDIT:

And seriously, the last time we discussed this, it was pretty clear that people don't mind jokes on the wiki.
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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
Yeah, last time we talked about this there was a clear consensus, and TopAce protected the article with the very good joke in place. We're supposed to be burying old conflicts, not reopening them!

 

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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
Here is TopAce's verdict as of November 2020


 

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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
Yeah, put it back. A little bit of levity never hurt anyone and the broad consensus last time was to keep it.
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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
Okay, for some reason I remembered as if I had removed the comment before protecting. Seeing the page's history, it's a false memory, apparently. Sorry about that.

Just please tell me this stuff is now over. For real.
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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
I think we’d like it to be!

Looking at the history it was someone called Meganew who deleted it this time. I can’t find anyone by that name on the forums or Discord so I don’t know who that is.
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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
Probably just an innocent poster trying to clean up some vandalism ;)

e: We should put Meganew's perfectly valid VC back in while we're at it, will do that in a few if nobody has

 
Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
Just saw this - the meme honestly seems pretty dated and am opposed to it being in a place with serious veteran feedback.

 

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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
Okay, for some reason I remembered as if I had removed the comment before protecting. Seeing the page's history, it's a false memory, apparently. Sorry about that.

Just please tell me this stuff is now over. For real.

No, comrade premiere. It has only begun

 

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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
there was a clear consensus

Again, nope - many members, including myself, did not agree with it. And my opinion on the matter hasn't changed.

While "most" people who posted on that thread claimed "to be fine" with it, phrases such as "we all agreed" and "there was a clear consensus" do not genuinely describe what happened during the debate.


I can't apply any vetos of course (I'm no FS Wiki authority and I absolutely don't want to be one), but you can't just pretend my voiced opinion doesn't exist. Just my 0.02€.
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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
Okay, phrasing it as "we all agreed" is factually untrue, and "clear consensus" is debatable, too, but there were more who either did not care or approved the comment. I was with you when it came to explaining the reference, and tried to came up with a compromise but it was quickly reverted and the edit war continued.

Clearly there's no solution that would please everyone.
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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
We could leave it off as pretty much no one cares at this point, and leave the veteran comments for actual comments intended to be made about the performance or characteristics of the Aeolus.

 

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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
We could leave it off as pretty much no one cares at this point, and leave the veteran comments for actual comments intended to be made about the performance or characteristics of the Aeolus.

If "noone cares", which is entirely untrue as there are people who do care and they outnumber the people who don't, then there's nothing wrong with this one line, which is both a funny reference and entirely true to stay in there.
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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
Is there not a dedicated place where those who contribute to the wiki regularly can go hash this out, politely, without generating further drama?  Go create a policy on wiki contributions and the frivolous versus the factual.  I'll set you lot up with a Google Meets invite if I must.  While I see no harm in the odd amusing comment, this seems like an issue that should simply be resolved once and for all so it does not keep coming up.

In fact, an editing/commenting policy on the wiki itself, created by the collaborators on it (HINT HINT) seems like a great place to start.
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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
We hashed it out and arrived at a consensus last time. The topic is closed.

 
Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
Why though? No reason to not re-examine it down the line.

 

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Re: Author Topic: important wiki matter: please post thoughts 2
Why though? No reason to not re-examine it down the line.

...it is a nine-word joke that was decided could stay. What possible reason could there be to revisit it?