[blowfish]

How close are the final MediaVPs to completion?  And once they are complete, will they be held back until FS2_Open 3.6.10 is finalized?

[GTSVA]

I have no clue what you guys are talking about....

[Jeff Vader]

I have no clue what you guys are talking about....

The following things are useful:

- Playing in OpenGL.
- Taylor's XT0314 build.
- The sdr1107 shader... um, thingamadoodle
- The 3.6.10 MediaVPs.

Note that the build is not an official one and it just might be a bit unstable. So don't blame us if your computer starts to burn and cast spells.

[GTSVA]

where do I put put the sdr shader thingie?

[Jeff Vader]

Partially hinted by the fact that it's a vp: to your \mediavps\ folder.

[GTSVA]

Bah, it still doesn't work....

Here's what I have in my FS2 folder...

===================================================

data
derelict
fsport
installer
MediaVps 3.6.10 Beta
       -data
       -MV core
       -MV Assets
       -MV Effects
       -sdr1107
screenshots
temp
tools
errorlog
Freespace2
Fs2(paint file)
FS2
FS2_open-3_6_9.dmg
fs2_open_3_6_9
fs2_open_3_6_9_debug
fs2_open_3_6_10
fs2_open_3_6_10_debug-Xt_0314
fs2_open_3_6_10-Xt_0314
FS2NetGV
FS2OGGcutscenepack
fso369-x86.tar
fso369-x86_64.tar
launcher(5.5)
launcher6
mod
modt
multi-mission-pack
multi-voice-pack
patchw32.dll
root_fs2
smarty_fs2
sparky_fs2
spark_hi_fs2
stu_fs2
tango1_fs2
tango2_fs2
tango3_fs2
updatelauncher
warble_fs2

============================================

and here's my command line-

C:\Documents and Settings\Wizard Drakonnan\My Documents\Freespace2\fs2_open_3_6_9.exe -mod MediaVPs 3.6.10Beta -spec -glow -env -mipmap -missile_lighting -dualscanlines -targetinfo -orbradar -rearm_timer -ballistic_gauge -ship_choice_3d -3dwarp -warp_flash -window

I'm using OPENGL and my MediaVPS 3.6.10 Beta is enabled as my mod

and after all of this, my ships and environment are still a white texture and everything is white when I play!!!!!
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Am I missing anything?

[GTSVA]

Tell me what I need to get rid of and what I am missing...
and feel free to ask me any questions...

I really want to get the full effects of this MEDIAVPS!!!

[Jeff Vader]

C:\Documents and Settings\Wizard Drakonnan\My Documents\Freespace2\fs2_open_3_6_9.exe -mod MediaVPs 3.6.10Beta -spec -glow -env -mipmap -missile_lighting -dualscanlines -targetinfo -orbradar -rearm_timer -ballistic_gauge -ship_choice_3d -3dwarp -warp_flash -window

1. NO! It is not good to have FreeSpace in My Documents. C:\Games\Freespace or something like it would be better. But not My Documents. And not the desktop.

2. Add -normal -height to the Custom flags field.

Oh and the black and white stripes... there was a build that fixes it. Hang on a sec...

Edit: Try this.

[colecampbell666]

Problem with the Loki. Lines radiate from the edges of the Loki to the center of the HUD. Seems like a texture problem to me.

[Cobra]

Never got them. You DO realize you admitted to having a crappy video card, right?

[Herra Tohtori]

Problem with the Loki. Lines radiate from the edges of the Loki to the center of the HUD. Seems like a texture problem to me.

Sounds more like some graphical corruption resulting from broken/overheating GPU or bugged driver.

[colecampbell666]

Don't think so. S'only with the Loki. And it is the textures, it also happens to the part-Loki fighter in BP.

[colecampbell666]

Are we supposed to report bugs here?

If so, the Aten seems buggier than normal, it lets anything through unless you get a lucky shot.

The Faustus is missing most of the back end, and it has the same shooting-through problem as the Aten.

[chief1983]

Tell me what I need to get rid of and what I am missing...
and feel free to ask me any questions...

I really want to get the full effects of this MEDIAVPS!!!

Along with not having spaces in the path to the game, you probably shouldn't have spaces in any of the subfolder names either, so the media vp folder should just be something like "mediavps" or "mvp_beta" or something.  Also, you should probably turn on displaying file extensions on your computer, it's sometimes nice to know what the extension actually is and not just what windows thinks it is.

[Cobra]

Are we supposed to report bugs here?

If so, the Aten seems buggier than normal, it lets anything through unless you get a lucky shot.

The Faustus is missing most of the back end, and it has the same shooting-through problem as the Aten.

I've said two or three times now, your video card sucks. I can see every ship just fine on my 8600 GT, and the only problem I have with models is the collision holes that comes from using the 3DSMax .pof exporter.

[GTSVA]

Ok, first of all, I moved the FS2 folder to GAMES

second, any build I use, when I select MediaVPS 3.6.10 as a mod, my ships turn white not stripy.

Third, I changed the MediaVPs folder with no spaces...but still, whatever I do, my ships are white, my weapons are white, planets nebulas you name it...white white white white...Is there something wrong with my MEDIAVPS 3.6.10?

[colecampbell666]

Yes my card may suck, but if so, why am I getting graphical errors on only one model? and only one texture, at that.

And the other two ships have collision holes.

Why don't you just shut up?

[chief1983]

I think the Aten in the beta is a known buggy model that VA has probably fixed for the final release.  I wouldn't worry about it.  GTSVA, Cobra might be a bit harsh, but he's right about your card, at least to some extent.  Low end cards will probably have trouble with new beta builds/beta VPs.  That's why they're beta.  Make sure you have the latest drivers as well, ATI is always messing with their OpenGL support, sometimes it's better, sometimes it's worse.  If you're using the latest maybe try reverting, although decide if that's really worth it or not as reverting doesn't always work perfectly.  Don't even try normal map support probably, I doubt it will work.  Try disabling GLSL in the launcher as well, and see what changes.

[colecampbell666]

I think the Aten in the beta is a known buggy model that VA has probably fixed for the final release.  I wouldn't worry about it.  GTSVA, Cobra might be a bit harsh, but he's right about your card, at least to some extent.  Low end cards will probably have trouble with new beta builds/beta VPs.  That's why they're beta.  Make sure you have the latest drivers as well, ATI is always messing with their OpenGL support, sometimes it's better, sometimes it's worse.  If you're using the latest maybe try reverting, although decide if that's really worth it or not as reverting doesn't always work perfectly.  Don't even try normal map support probably, I doubt it will work.  Try disabling GLSL in the launcher as well, and see what changes.

He's *****ing at me about the card, being a ***** like usual.

[GTSVA]

Oh, nooo!

Don't get all worked up about my problem...I just came to this forum for help...