[colecampbell666]

**** YEAH SEAKING!

[Galemp]

Ugh.

The Ursa is not a jigsaw puzzle.

You need to take a good look at the original maps--which are already plenty large--and remember that this is a bomber, not a capship. It oughta look like it's made from big, thick slabs of steel, not pieced together.

[Herra Tohtori]

Ugh.

The Ursa is not a jigsaw puzzle.

You need to take a good look at the original maps--which are already plenty large--and remember that this is a bomber, not a capship. It oughta look like it's made from big, thick slabs of steel, not pieced together.

Well, I'm basing that normal map on Freespaceking's map, which IMHO has some better features than the current mvp Ursa texture. I myself do like the armour plating pattern, but I'll most likely try and figure out a way to make the small lines a bit thinner.

With the current map, there's not really much detail to put into normal map. Not that it would be a necessity anyways. It's not like the normal maps just have to be used for all ships.

The comments about jigsaw puzzle, and Ursa's size, and thick slabs of steel confuse me a bit, though. Yes, Ursa is a bomber. You could also house at least two tennis courts on it's back if it were flat. I mean, the thing is huge. Thus the normal mapped details can be a bit smaller in the texture than with most fighters and bombers. Besides, there are plenty of more detailed normal maps for smaller ships - the "smallest" armour plates on this particular pattern seem to be something like 0.7*2.0 metres and thickness of the plate above the bottom of the visible seam something from 0.15 to 0.3 metres. Most are bigger. If that's not a big slab of steel (or whatever it is they use on armour) I don't know what is.

Aesthetic preference of a flatter surface is a perfectly valid and appreciated input, though. I have to admit that at the moment the plating seams are both too wide and too deep, which does kinda look like being made of some blocks.. a bit. The problem is that making them thinner seems to invoke a lot of unpleasant aliasing on the thin seams. Both in the map itself and in-game. But WIP is always WIP...

[Vasudan Admiral]

I'd need to see that normal map in game to make a completely fair judgement, but I'd agree that it looks too 'bitty' in those screens. The overall tiled effect of the plates hides much of the detail below on both the model and texture.

As for the main map itself, well it is a bit nicer as an overall look, but there are many places where that added plate detail has gone right over the existing plate detail lines which makes it look very much like an overlayed texture rather than actual small plates.

[BlackDove]

It looks ****ing awesome.

Leave as is and move on. Ursa is DONE.

[castor]

Looks tough!
Yet the "tiling" at the top is a bit too dense to my taste too. ~30% reduction in seam count, pretty please

[blowfish]

Did I mention that the Dis has missing/invisible textures?

[Droid803]

It does?

[blowfish]

Yes, it does.  LOD 0 has invisible parts, and LODs 1 and 2 are completely invisible.

[Droid803]

Not on mine 
Everything's completely visible.

This is the HTL SFr Dis you are talking about right?

[Vasudan Admiral]

Well I've repaired the holey model of the Dis, but I'm not sure I checked the LODs. There were no missing bits in the LOD 0 but I'll double check that and the other LODs when I get home.

[Zacam]

LOD's are fine in yor internal version, VA.

[blowfish]

When the MediaVPs are done, do you plan to release them right away, or withhold them until SCP 3.6.10 is released?

[Zacam]

No Idea. I just work here. :-)

In other news, a slightly less shiny touch up of the Medusa:



It,s not perfect, but it should do to relieve the "AhhhGH! My eyes!" that occurs on the original shine map. (Thanks and cred for shine map go to Herra for correcting my half-ass attempt)

It's also sized to 512^2 instead of the strange 512x1024 it was originally. And DDS-ified. Glow map was subtly altered to reduce the effect. Largely irrelevant since it seems the "glows" are baked into the original base. Looking to fix that with a by-hand higher detail map at some point, still a WIP. This release is for "Just in Case".

$Freespace2InstallDir$\$modfolderORvpfolderORdata$\maps\
Bomber04-01.7z

[[Wolf]Maverick]

Hi, i have a graphic problem.
I use the 3.6.10 Media VPs and the 3.6.10. exe from 03/28/08. I have the german version of FS2 and play over OpenGL The Textures of the Medusa and Hercules Mark II are broken, also i can't see the Hercules MK II in the TechRoom. I know there was a Hotkey to show all ships, but i forget it ^^ I hope u can help me with my textures problem, here is a screenshot:

[Jeff Vader]

Some people have found this build to be useful. As well as updating their graphics card's drivers. And it's Ctrl + Shift + S.

[Shiku]

Anyone know where I can get a build that supports Normal maps as well as the resolution fix?

It seems I can have one or the other, but I can't find one that does both. Would be much appreciated.

[JVLK]

Anyone know where I can get a build that supports Normal maps as well as the resolution fix?

It seems I can have one or the other, but I can't find one that does both. Would be much appreciated.

For resolution fix I believe you have to play with -fov flag value.

[GTSVA]

Some people have found this build to be useful. As well as updating their graphics card's drivers. And it's Ctrl + Shift + S.

Ctrl + Shift + S what?

Edit: Is this build more recent than the XT one?

[Jeff Vader]

Ctrl + Shift + S what?

In the Tech Room, regardless of whether you're viewing missions or ships, if you hold down Ctrl and Shift and hit S, you get them all (all the ships or all the missions depending on which ones you were viewing) visible.

Edit: Is this build more recent than the XT one?

Umm, probably not, but I know of at least one case where a person was able to effectively counter the striped textures by using this build.