[Trivial Psychic]

[EDIT] I don't know if the newest version of the effect is in the nightlies, but when viewing the ship draw effect the wireframe of the model is completely visible before the effect is complete. of course it could also be my graphics card.

I'm getting this too.  Win7-64, ATI HD5770-1GB, CAT. 11.6.

[Kolgena]

Yep, Catalyst 11.8 preview, mobility 3650 HD.

Probably an ATI thing. Still, I'd appreciate it if FSO didn't join the long line of TWIMTBP titles 


Turning off forced AF does not fix the issue.

[Valathil]

[Commander Zane]

Truth.

[Valathil]

Seriously though, id really like to fix it but how can i try changes out and trace the problem without a ati card. this is next to impossible

[Aardwolf]

(As a final tweak, it'd be nice if the animation synched with the sound a bit better. The ship rotates up a bit too slowly at the end)

The cables are too thick.

Oi! Stop that!

[Spoon]

Does the cloaking effect require post processing to be enabled?

yes i probably should have mentioned that, maybe ill add fs1 effect as the cloak if post is disabled as a fallback have to look into that.

Hmmm, what happens when you dont have PP enabled? Does the ship not fade out at all?
I'd love to use the effect, but I'm not sure about requiring every player to enable PP in their launcher settings

[The E]

The problem is, this effect needs the post-processing infrastructure in order to work correctly. Without post-processing, results will be ... interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0jD3hwrK3A

To be honest though, most of the real gamers will be able to run with post enabled; The ones who can't are probably on Intel chips.

[Spoon]

Well, we all know how many gamers we've had in the past running the game on 640x480 

But that's good enough for me, as long as the ship fades out without PP enabled.

[Valathil]

Well, we all know how many gamers we've had in the past running the game on 640x480 

But that's good enough for me, as long as the ship fades out without PP enabled.

I can do a fade to black with distorted textures and then poof not more cause that would require a parameter in the shader is that good enough?

[Kolgena]

That's probably good enough. At this point, making sure things work without post-processing is almost like providing legacy support.

As for the wireframe draw bug, there's not much we can do short of mailing Valathil a radeon card, is there? :/

As a stab in the dark, see if there's anything you've scripted that might for some reason be nVidia-only readable. Maybe a typo here or there doesn't compromise nvidia as badly as it does amd? No idea.

[Valathil]

So take one of this and call me in the morning
main-f.sdr

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#ifdef FLAG_LIGHT
uniform int n_lights;
#endif

#ifdef FLAG_DIFFUSE_MAP
uniform sampler2D sBasemap;
#endif

#ifdef FLAG_GLOW_MAP
uniform sampler2D sGlowmap;
#endif

#ifdef FLAG_SPEC_MAP
uniform sampler2D sSpecmap;
#endif

#ifdef FLAG_ENV_MAP
uniform samplerCube sEnvmap;
uniform bool alpha_spec;
varying vec3 envReflect;
#endif

#ifdef FLAG_NORMAL_MAP
uniform sampler2D sNormalmap;
varying mat3 tbnMatrix;
#endif

#ifdef FLAG_FOG
varying float fogDist;
#endif

#ifdef FLAG_ANIMATED
uniform sampler2D sFramebuffer;
uniform int effect_num;
uniform float anim_timer;
uniform float vpwidth;
uniform float vpheight;
#endif

varying vec4 position;
varying vec3 lNormal;

#if SHADER_MODEL == 2
  #define MAX_LIGHTS 2
#else
  #define MAX_LIGHTS 8
#endif

#define SPEC_INTENSITY_POINT 5.3 // Point light
#define SPEC_INTENSITY_DIRECTIONAL 3.0 // Directional light
#define SPECULAR_FACTOR 1.75
#define SPECULAR_ALPHA 0.1
#define SPEC_FACTOR_NO_SPEC_MAP 0.6
#define ENV_ALPHA_FACTOR 0.3
#define GLOW_MAP_INTENSITY 1.5
#define AMBIENT_LIGHT_BOOST 1.0

void main()
{
vec3 eyeDir = vec3(normalize(-position).xyz); // Camera is at (0,0,0) in ModelView space
vec4 lightAmbientDiffuse = vec4(0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0);
vec4 lightDiffuse = vec4(0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0);
vec4 lightAmbient = vec4(0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0);
vec4 lightSpecular = vec4(0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0);
vec2 texCoord = gl_TexCoord[0].xy;
 #ifdef FLAG_ANIMATED
vec2 screenPos;
if(effect_num == 2)
{
screenPos = gl_FragCoord.xy * vec2(vpwidth,vpheight);
texCoord += (1.0-anim_timer)*0.3*vec2(sin(screenPos.y*50.0));
}
 #endif
 #ifdef FLAG_LIGHT
  #ifdef FLAG_NORMAL_MAP
// Normal map - convert from DXT5nm
vec3 normal;

normal.rg = (texture2D(sNormalmap, texCoord).ag * 2.0) - 1.0;
  #ifdef FLAG_ENV_MAP
vec3 envOffset = vec3(0.0);
envOffset.xy = normal.xy;
  #endif
normal.b = sqrt(1.0 - dot(normal.rg, normal.rg));
normal = tbnMatrix * normal;
float norm = length(normal);
if( length(normal) > 0.0)  // fix broken normal maps
normal /= norm ;
else
normal = tbnMatrix * vec3(0.0, 0.0, 1.0);
  #else
vec3 normal = lNormal;
  #endif

vec3 lightDir;
lightAmbient = gl_FrontMaterial.emission + (gl_LightModel.ambient * gl_FrontMaterial.ambient);
float dist;
#pragma optionNV unroll all
for (int i = 0; i < MAX_LIGHTS; ++i) {
  #if SHADER_MODEL > 2
if (i > n_lights)
break;
  #endif
float specularIntensity = 1.0;
float attenuation = 1.0;

// Attenuation and light direction
  #if SHADER_MODEL > 2
if (gl_LightSource[i].position.w == 1.0) {
  #else
if (gl_LightSource[i].position.w == 1.0 && i != 0) {
  #endif
// Positional light source
float dist = distance(gl_LightSource[i].position.xyz, position.xyz);

lightDir = (gl_LightSource[i].position.xyz - position.xyz);

  #if SHADER_MODEL > 2
if (gl_LightSource[i].spotCutoff < 91.0) {  // Tube light
float beamlength = length(gl_LightSource[i].spotDirection);
vec3 beamDir = normalize(gl_LightSource[i].spotDirection);
float neardist = dot(position.xyz - gl_LightSource[i].position.xyz , beamDir); // Get nearest point on line
vec3 nearest = gl_LightSource[i].position.xyz - beamDir * abs(neardist); // Move back from the endpoint of the beam along the beam by the distance we calculated
lightDir = nearest - position.xyz;
dist = length(lightDir);
}
  #endif

lightDir = normalize(lightDir);

attenuation = 1.0 / (gl_LightSource[i].constantAttenuation + (gl_LightSource[i].linearAttenuation * dist) + (gl_LightSource[i].quadraticAttenuation * dist * dist));

specularIntensity = SPEC_INTENSITY_POINT;
} else {
// Directional light source
lightDir = normalize(gl_LightSource[i].position.xyz);
specularIntensity = SPEC_INTENSITY_DIRECTIONAL; // Directional light
}

// Ambient and Diffuse
lightAmbient += (gl_FrontLightProduct[i].ambient * attenuation);
lightDiffuse += (gl_FrontLightProduct[i].diffuse * (max(dot(normal, lightDir), 0.0)) * attenuation);
// Specular
float NdotHV = clamp(dot(normal, normalize(eyeDir + lightDir)), 0.0, 1.0);
lightSpecular += ((gl_FrontLightProduct[i].specular * pow(NdotHV, gl_FrontMaterial.shininess)) * attenuation) * specularIntensity;
}

lightAmbientDiffuse = lightAmbient + lightDiffuse;
 #else
lightAmbientDiffuse = gl_Color;
lightSpecular = gl_SecondaryColor;
 #endif

 #ifdef FLAG_DIFFUSE_MAP
 // Base color
vec4 baseColor = texture2D(sBasemap, texCoord);
 #else
vec4 baseColor = gl_Color;
 #endif
 
vec4 fragmentColor;
fragmentColor.rgb = baseColor.rgb * max(lightAmbientDiffuse.rgb * AMBIENT_LIGHT_BOOST, gl_LightModel.ambient.rgb - 0.425);
fragmentColor.a = baseColor.a;

 #ifdef FLAG_SPEC_MAP
 // Spec color
fragmentColor.rgb += lightSpecular.rgb * (texture2D(sSpecmap, texCoord).rgb * SPECULAR_FACTOR);
fragmentColor.a += (dot(lightSpecular.a, lightSpecular.a) * SPECULAR_ALPHA);
 #else
fragmentColor.rgb += lightSpecular.rgb * (baseColor.rgb * SPEC_FACTOR_NO_SPEC_MAP);
 #endif

 #ifdef FLAG_ENV_MAP
 // Env color
  #ifdef FLAG_NORMAL_MAP
vec3 envReflectNM = envReflect + envOffset;
vec3 envIntensity = (alpha_spec) ? vec3(texture2D(sSpecmap, texCoord).a) : texture2D(sSpecmap, texCoord).rgb;
fragmentColor.a += (dot(textureCube(sEnvmap, envReflectNM).rgb, textureCube(sEnvmap, envReflectNM).rgb) * ENV_ALPHA_FACTOR);
fragmentColor.rgb += textureCube(sEnvmap, envReflectNM).rgb * envIntensity;
  #else
vec3 envIntensity = (alpha_spec) ? vec3(texture2D(sSpecmap, texCoord).a) : texture2D(sSpecmap, texCoord).rgb;
fragmentColor.a += (dot(textureCube(sEnvmap, envReflect).rgb, textureCube(sEnvmap, envReflect).rgb) * ENV_ALPHA_FACTOR);
fragmentColor.rgb += textureCube(sEnvmap, envReflect).rgb * envIntensity;
  #endif
 #endif

 #ifdef FLAG_GLOW_MAP
 // Glow color
fragmentColor.rgb += texture2D(sGlowmap, texCoord).rgb * GLOW_MAP_INTENSITY;
 #endif

 #ifdef FLAG_FOG
fragmentColor.rgb = mix(fragmentColor.rgb, gl_Fog.color.rgb, fogDist);
 #endif

 #ifdef FLAG_ANIMATED
if(effect_num == 0)
{
float shinefactor = 1.0/(1.0 + pow((fract(abs(gl_TexCoord[0].x))-anim_timer) * 1000.0, 2.0)) * 1000.0;
gl_FragColor.rgb = fragmentColor.rgb + vec3(shinefactor);
gl_FragColor.a = fragmentColor.a * shinefactor * (fract(abs(gl_TexCoord[0].x))-anim_timer) * -10000.0;
}
if(effect_num == 1)
{
float shinefactor = 1.0/(1.0 + pow((position.y-anim_timer), 2.0));
gl_FragColor.rgb = fragmentColor.rgb + vec3(shinefactor);
 #ifdef FLAG_LIGHT
gl_FragColor.a = fragmentColor.a;
 #else
gl_FragColor.a = (position.y-anim_timer) * 10000.0; // ATI Wireframe fix *grumble*
 #endif
}
if(effect_num == 2)
{
gl_FragColor.a = 1.0;
gl_FragColor.rgb = texture2D(sFramebuffer, screenPos + anim_timer*0.1*vec2(sin(screenPos.y*50.0))).rgb*(1.0-anim_timer)+anim_timer*fragmentColor.rgb;
}
 #else
gl_FragColor = fragmentColor;
 #endif
}

[Kolgena]

These aren't just wide-spectrum antibiotics right? My friend told me that their usage is socially irresponsible.

K, so you are freaking awesome. Fixed it.


(One thing I noticed, just as I loaded ship selection on King's Gambit, is that bigger ships are rendered alongside smaller grids, since the game seems to try to keep the apparent size of the ships the same. As such, the Artemis is like, only half-on its tiny grid. If there's an easy fix for it, great, but otherwise, I'd have to agree with The_E that this one is "pipes2thick")

Audio sync on the newest nightly is awesome.

[Valathil]

If there's an easy fix for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14

[Kolgena]

So I guess the problem is model-side? I noticed that it doesn't actually have to do with size, since the Ursa's relatively unaffected. The bad offenders are the Artemises and the Boanerges, that have grids easily half the size of the one for the myrmidon. (I'M LOOKING AT YOU SAB0O )

(Also, you got me so excited with that youtube link. I thought it was going to link me to a preview of the fix in action. lol.)

[Valathil]

(Also, you got me so excited with that youtube link. I thought it was going to link me to a preview of the fix in action. lol.)

That's EXACTLY why I did it 

If you want the exact description of the problem it depends on the ratio between model size and the zoom_amount. BUT i cant use the zoom_amount for the calculation of the grid size because then the coordinates for the glow shader would be wrong. This is also why the glow is smaller on larger ships like the ursa. Cant be helped at the moment as it would require passing many parameters to the shader to get true screen coordinates in the shader calculation which just isnt feasible right now. I dont know if it will ever be.

[Spoon]

Am I missing shaders or something for the FS1 effect?
It's not displaying for me at all on 7388

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FreeSpace version: 3.6.13
Passed cmdline options:
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  -env
  -missile_lighting
  -glow
  -noscalevid
  -spec
  -normal
  -3dshockwave
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  -bloom_intensity 40
  -fxaa
  -ballistic_gauge
  -rearm_timer
  -targetinfo
  -3dwarp
  -ship_choice_3d
  -weapon_choice_3d
  -warp_flash
  -mod Wings of Dawn II,mediavps_3612
  -fullscreen_window
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  Found extension "ALC_EXT_EFX".

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  Using extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
  Using extension "GL_NV_vertex_program3".
  Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".

  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (null-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (null-f.sdr)
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  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (la-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lbsa-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lea-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lbgsea-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lea-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lbsea-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lna-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lbgna-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lna-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lbgsna-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lna-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lbna-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lna-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lbsna-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lnea-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lbgsnea-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lnea-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lbsnea-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lfa-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lfba-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lfa-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lfbga-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lfa-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lfbgsa-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lfa-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lfbsa-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lfea-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lfbgsea-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lfea-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lfbsea-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lfna-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lfbgna-f.sdr)
  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lfna-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lfbgsna-f.sdr)
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  Compiling shader: main-v.sdr (lfnea-v.sdr), main-f.sdr (lfbsnea-f.sdr)

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Loading built-in default shader for: fxaa-f.sdr
  Compiling post-processing shader 6 ...
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ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
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ADE: Initializing enumeration constants...
ADE: Assigning Lua session...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka!  Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
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SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked
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SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run
Using high memory settings...
Wokka!  Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
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Windows reported 16 joysticks, we found 0
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
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WARNING: "Lifetime min or max specified, but $Lifetime was also specified; min or max will be used." at weapons.cpp:1400
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WARNING: Unrecognized parameter in ai_profiles: $disarm or disable cause global ai goal effects: YES

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Particle effect for impact spew disabled on ship 'Fir'kyr Voidbringer'.
Particle effect for damage spew disabled on ship 'Fir'kyr Voidbringer'.
Particle effect for impact spew disabled on ship 'Fir'kyr VoidBearer'.
Particle effect for damage spew disabled on ship 'Fir'kyr VoidBearer'.
Particle effect for impact spew disabled on ship 'Fir'kyr VoidKeeper'.
Particle effect for damage spew disabled on ship 'Fir'kyr VoidKeeper'.
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Weapons.tbl is : INVALID!!!!
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WARNING!, Could not load door anim 2_Exit in main hall
WARNING!, Could not load door anim 2_Pilot in main hall
WARNING!, Could not load door anim 2_Continue in main hall
WARNING!, Could not load door anim 2_Tech in main hall
WARNING!, Could not load door anim 2_Option in main hall
WARNING!, Could not load door anim 2_Campaign in main hall
Got event GS_EVENT_TECH_MENU (11) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
Techroom successfully initialized, now changing tab...
Loading model 'Ray.pof'
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Freeing all existing models...
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[mjn.mixael]

I was just talking with The_E about that. Weapons that are in retail FS2 wouldn't use FS1 style and none of the ships would either. A few moments later he said it would be fixed in the next builds.

[Kolgena]

(Also, you got me so excited with that youtube link. I thought it was going to link me to a preview of the fix in action. lol.)

That's EXACTLY why I did it 

If you want the exact description of the problem it depends on the ratio between model size and the zoom_amount. BUT i cant use the zoom_amount for the calculation of the grid size because then the coordinates for the glow shader would be wrong. This is also why the glow is smaller on larger ships like the ursa. Cant be helped at the moment as it would require passing many parameters to the shader to get true screen coordinates in the shader calculation which just isnt feasible right now. I dont know if it will ever be.

Meh, screw it. Looks good as it is. I think if the Artemises and the boa are looked into (their grids are much smaller than even the one for the ursa... bad radius settings? No clue), it'll be fine.

[Valathil]

I've tested the cloaking effect and it's great except from one thing.
Since the animated shader is only applied to ship model, when a craft such as Iz'rail (or any Steve-O's fighter for that matter) cloaks, it's external weapons can be seen conspiciously floating in space. 
So, I have a small request to apply the cloaking effect to whatever weapons the cloaking craft happens to be carrying on it's external hardpoints.

this is fixed in rev 7405