[Jeff Vader]

Uh, did you try to run a regular 3.6.10 build or only the debug one?

[Wanderer]

Ok... Mr_Maniac..

For temporary fix (that is to say this one will be included in the patch and should by then be removed) that might be enough to solve the issue... Please try it out and then tell us what happened.

Step 1
Extract the mv_strings-lcl.tbm to <mediavp installation directory>/data/tables

Step 2
Open the file in question with for example notepad (or any ASCII editor) and find string #end from it

Step 3
Replace the string #end with following

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#end

#German

#end

#French

#end
Step 4
Save changes and try starting the mediavps now

[Wanderer]

Anyone got any ideas? my post seems to have been lost in the shuffle so reposting it again. Thanks.

There are couple of things you could try...

First, make sure you are using a new build (from example one of the nightly builds)

Second, make an empty text (ASCII) file to your main data directory (ie. <freespace installation directory>/data) and name it debug_filter.cfg. Run the debug build again until it forces you back to the desktop. Open the rather large fs2_open.log file and post ONLY the last 10 or so lines from it.

[Mr_Maniac]

Ok... Mr_Maniac..

For temporary fix (that is to say this one will be included in the patch and should by then be removed) that might be enough to solve the issue... Please try it out and then tell us what happened.

Thanks, that worked!

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Shader problem on OS X, eh? Hmm...I didn't encounter such a problem with 3.6.8 mediavps.

At least MV_Advanced works now. I like the beams, especially the Shivan ones.

[Jadehawk]

Uh, did you try to run a regular 3.6.10 build or only the debug one?

Yeah I did and I also said so in my post. I ran the debug because I was having trouble with the regular one.

[Jadehawk]

Anyone got any ideas? my post seems to have been lost in the shuffle so reposting it again. Thanks.

There are couple of things you could try...

First, make sure you are using a new build (from example one of the nightly builds)

Second, make an empty text (ASCII) file to your main data directory (ie. <freespace installation directory>/data) and name it debug_filter.cfg. Run the debug build again until it forces you back to the desktop. Open the rather large fs2_open.log file and post ONLY the last 10 or so lines from it.

OK will do and thank you for responding. I'll get to this as soon as I can and post here.

[Jadehawk]

OK, went back and made that file, ran the game and everything was OK up to when I clicked start to enter the mission play. As soon as I clicked to enter the mission play, the game locked up. I should point out that the game did not crash to the desktop at all. It just hug up and froze up like I said previously.

As you asked, Here is the last part of the log file:

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ENDING LOAD ================
Real count = 561,  Estimated count = 425
================================================
Received post for event GS_EVENT_RED_ALERT during state transtition. Find Allender if you are unsure if this is bad.
Got event GS_EVENT_RED_ALERT (57) in state GS_STATE_START_GAME (52)
ANI iconSD4 with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted)
ANI iconPromR with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted)
ANI iconKayser with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted)
ANI iconCirce with size 56x24 (25.0% wasted)
Loading model 'crossbow_tech.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'crossbow_tech.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x3c2d3c20, IBX checksum: 0x3ba92db3 -- "crossbow_tech.pof"
Loading model 'trebuchet_tech.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'trebuchet_tech.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xdf1a4879, IBX checksum: 0xdffb98e3 -- "trebuchet_tech.pof"
ANI 2_SD4.ani with size 332x304 (40.6% wasted)
ANI 2_PromR.ani with size 332x304 (40.6% wasted)
ANI 2_Kayser.ani with size 332x304 (40.6% wasted)
ANI 2_Circe.ani with size 332x304 (40.6% wasted)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 45.309 (45.309)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.259 (0.259)
Got event GS_EVENT_ENTER_GAME (2) in state GS_STATE_RED_ALERT (44)
Entering game at time =  76.419
Frame  1 too long!!: frametime = 0.852 (0.852)


[Droid803]

Is it just me, or did the beam sound of the SRed get changed?
It sounds different from what I recall.

[Rick James]

While playing FSPort with the new MediaVPs I get the following error:

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Warning: Could not find a usable beam section (3) bitmap (beam-orange3) for weapon 'SSLBeam'!

File: weapons.cpp
Line: 3811


Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
    fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081207_r4985.exe 00927ec9()
    fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081207_r4985.exe 00948a75()
    fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081207_r4985.exe 00949031()
    fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081207_r4985.exe 00738b14()
    fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081207_r4985.exe 00739c1d()
    fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081207_r4985.exe 0073c7fb()
    fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081207_r4985.exe 00950b5d()
    fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081207_r4985.exe 0073de78()
    fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081207_r4985.exe 0073e10e()
    fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081207_r4985.exe 00c914c6()
    fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081207_r4985.exe 00c9134f()
    kernel32.dll 7c816fd7()
------------------------------------------------------------------

It seems the MediaVPs don't like the SSLBeam. I got this right after I initiated cheats within a mission.

[Galemp]

That's odd, the SSL should definitely be using weapon effects either in the retail VPs or in the port VP. It could be a priority issue; can you post the contents of the mod.ini you're launching from?

[Rick James]

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[launcher]
infotext     = FreeSpace 1, now ported to run on the FreeSpace 2 engine.;
website      = http://fsport.hard-light.net/;
forum        = http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,39.0.html;

[multimod]
primarylist  = ;
secondrylist = ,mediavps;

[settings]


[Androgeos Exeunt]

Is it just me, or did the beam sound of the SRed get changed?
It sounds different from what I recall.

Yes, it was changed. If you have VPVIEW32, you will find two beam fire sounds in sparky_fs2.vp.

* Androgeos Exeunt attempts to convey the function of beam cannon firing in FreeSpace 2 using his incompetence.

Back in retail, when a capital ship is equipped with beam weapons and when the capital ship fires a beam like, say, the BFGreen, a sequence of sounds is created from the beam's charge-up to power-down. It usually consists of an "up" sound, followed by a beam firing sound AND a beam sound, the latter being looped for as long as the beam is firing, and finally a "dwn" sound, so for the BFGreen, you get this sequence in retail on a capital ship:

BT_up_5.wav -> beam_shot1.wav (once) + BT_BFGreen.wav (loop for 4s) -> BT_dwn_5.wav

However, if you were to force a small ship's weapon into a beam, what you get is not a beam, but a small bullet for every gunpoint linked to that beam, and the only sound that comes out is beam_shot2.wav.

What happened in 3.6.10 is that all ships, small and capital, all use beam_shot2.wav, whereas in earlier versions, they use beam_shot1.wav, like the example above.


...unless if you what you meant was that the SRed no longer uses BS_SRed.wav...

[Romanmolf]

I think he meant that when the SRed fires, you hear the ''charge-up'' sound.

[eliex]

The Terran afterburn is similar to the Vasudan afterburn.
Is this intentional?

Is there now a fix for the Shivan beams?

[ssmit132]

They changed the Terran afterburner from teal to orange due to popular opinion, if I recall correctly (from hearing stuff around here).

Also, the Shivan beams appear to be a hardware issue, not a Media VP issue. Unless we all managed to get a download that was stuffed at the same place.

Eliex, did you get MV_Complete, or the seperate ones like I did?

[Droid803]

Is it just me, or did the beam sound of the SRed get changed?
It sounds different from what I recall.

Yes, it was changed. If you have VPVIEW32, you will find two beam fire sounds in sparky_fs2.vp.

* Androgeos Exeunt attempts to convey the function of beam cannon firing in FreeSpace 2 using his incompetence.

Back in retail, when a capital ship is equipped with beam weapons and when the capital ship fires a beam like, say, the BFGreen, a sequence of sounds is created from the beam's charge-up to power-down. It usually consists of an "up" sound, followed by a beam firing sound AND a beam sound, the latter being looped for as long as the beam is firing, and finally a "dwn" sound, so for the BFGreen, you get this sequence in retail on a capital ship:

BT_up_5.wav -> beam_shot1.wav (once) + BT_BFGreen.wav (loop for 4s) -> BT_dwn_5.wav

However, if you were to force a small ship's weapon into a beam, what you get is not a beam, but a small bullet for every gunpoint linked to that beam, and the only sound that comes out is beam_shot2.wav.

What happened in 3.6.10 is that all ships, small and capital, all use beam_shot2.wav, whereas in earlier versions, they use beam_shot1.wav, like the example above.


...unless if you what you meant was that the SRed no longer uses BS_SRed.wav...

Ugh, so that's what it is.
beam_shot2.wav sounds ugly when coupled with the Shivan beams.

[Aurora Paradox]

Also, the Shivan beams appear to be a hardware issue, not a Media VP issue. Unless we all managed to get a download that was stuffed at the same place.

Eliex, did you get MV_Complete, or the seperate ones like I did?

I'm having the same issue with the Shivan beams.  Unless Eliex and I have identical hardware configurations I don't think its a hardware issue.  I did not have this problem with the 3.6.8 Zeta mediavps.

Configuration is as follows:

Pentium 4 2.4 GHZ with Hyper threading
Ge Force 5200 FX
512 MB of Ram

I downloaded the separate files for the new mediavps.  Other than this beam issue I've had no problems.  I've attached a screen shot of what the beams look like.  I don't have a debug log though.


Any suggestions on how to fix this?

Aurora Paradox

[attachment stolen by Slimey Goober]

[Mongoose]

That looks very similar to an issue I've been experiencing with beams (though not yet with these new VPs, strangely enough) and a variety of ship textures for some time now.  Just out of curiosity, do any of the shots here look familiar?

[eliex]

I downloaded the MV_Complete.

Like Aurora, everything else apart from the beams are fine.

This is my hardware configuration:

- Pentium 1.6GHz
- Intel 945GM chipset
- 2GB Ram

I read about a fix on the beams

If some one who still has the beam issue could test the following it might help with the solving the issue. Copy the following to a new file in  <mediavp directory>/data/tables. And preferably remove after the test (regardless if it works or not).

mv_aa_test-wep.tbm

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#Primary Weapons

$Name: SRed
+nocreate
$BeamInfo:
   $Section:
      +Index:        1
      +nocreate
      +Texture:      SbeamAA
   $Section:
      +Index:        3
      +nocreate
      +Texture:      SbeamAA
   $Section:
      +Index:        4
      +nocreate
      +Texture:      SbeamAA

#End

They didn't work for me.