[mr.WHO]

Could anyone tell me how to make ship table working with this build and media vs?

For example this one:
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTVB_Chnubis

FRED keeps telling me that something is wrong with with table entry. Tried to compare but I found nothing

[blowfish]

Would you mind saying what specifically FRED says is wrong with the table entry?  And this shouldn't be affected by the mediavps whatsoever...

[Herra Tohtori]

Yeah, please keep modding support requests to Modding forum...

[mr.WHO]

One little " was missing and caused 30 lines of errors
Anyway sorry of unintended OT.

[esarai]

First thing, this is some awesome stuff. Really nice work guys!

Second thing: Why when I installed the mediavps did all the textures get... fuzzier?
Third Thing (If someone has already addressed this, I apologize): Where is the Sathanas!? I don't mean HTL, I mean the original. I loaded mediavp 3.6.10, and FS2 nightly build 5034 cannot find the Sathanas class. Seriously... wtf?

[Jeff Vader]

Second thing: Why when I installed the mediavps did all the textures get... fuzzier?

Did you remove the old MediaVPs and empty any \data\cache\ folders?

Where is the Sathanas!?

Ctrl-Shift-S ?

[esarai]

Second thing: Why when I installed the mediavps did all the textures get... fuzzier?

Did you remove the old MediaVPs and empty any \data\cache\ folders?

Hmm... I nuked the old mediavps folder, but I don't think I cleared the main FS2 cache... I'll try that. Do I need to clear any residing in mod folders?

Where is the Sathanas!?

Ctrl-Shift-S ?

That should so be a new cheat.

[General Battuta]

It's an existing cheat. It shows all ships and missions in the techroom.

[esarai]

Okay, I cleared cache and it is still doing the thing. I notice that full detail appears as I near the craft, which leads me to conclude that this is a mipmapping issue. If anyone knows how to bypass mipmapping in some way other than unchecking "enable mipmapping" (since I did that), could you tell me how to do this? If there is no other way, I must arrive at the conclusion that Nightly build 5034 is incapable of turning off mipmapping.

To check, I'm going to use the lowest 3.6.10 capable build.
EDIT:
Which failed epically. I can't turn off mipmapping. Does anyone have a solution? If so, go to http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,60325.0.html and post it up.

And about not finding the Sathanas class, it's not like it isn't showing up. It's like its causing error windows to appear.

[Vasudan Admiral]

My guess about the sathanas is that you have rogue data doing that - I'm certain that the one in the MVPs is there and stable. Check your Freespace2\data (and subfolders) for anything - especially rogue "SuperCap2S-01.pof" files. Also check for rogue mod VPs in your main directory that should have their own mod folder.

As for the mipmapping - maybe you've got abnormally low settings in your drivers? Have a look there, and also check that the in-game graphics options are set to full - I've forgotten that sometimes with new installs and I think new pilots. Those settings have a dramatic effect on the in-game detail.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

What's mipmapping, if I may ask?

[Galemp]

I guess I'll be using this service again.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

* Androgeos Exeunt takes a leaf from HLP's Palpatine and adds his post to his signature.

Is it a good thing to have it turned on?

[ssmit132]

I guess I'll be using this service again.

[Herra Tohtori]

Hmm... Try and see what the in-game graphical options say about your 3D hardware texture detail level. Obviously you should max the in-game options to get the most out of the MediaVP's. (F2->Detail-> 3D Hardware Textures). What you describe is symptomatic to having that set to lower setting than max, as it basically just picks lower LOD layer from the DDS files as the "first to be shown" and effectively reduces VRAM consumption and amount of detail visible on the textures.

Another possibility is that the mipmap LOD bias setting is, for some reason, misadjusted so that textures show up in smaller resolution than their apparent diameter on the screen... but unless you use RivaTuner, ATiTool or have used in the past, I don't know if you even would get access to those settings, so I kinda doubt that. Also check what level of anisotropic filtering you have enabled on GPU driver control panel, as the AF setting on the Launcher seems to be doing much of nothing on my installation.

Regarding mipmapping - you really don't want to turn that off per ce... You want it to be at suitable strength so that it shows the appropriate texture LOD depending on the apparent size of the texture on the screen, which properly done reduces the nasty shimmering (aliasing) effects on textures. Anisotropic filtering does basically the same, but improves the texture handling when they are seen from an angle.

[esarai]

Hmm... never used any of those tools, and aside from the GPU AF setting that I can't find, all the settings are set to maximum. Is there some flag that will allow me to force the bias level to something acceptable?

[Retsof]

Well, I just got these, and I appear to have a problem.  I'm pretty sure the normal maps aren't working.  Tell me a ship that this would be obvious on so I can take a screenshot from the tech room (no Shivans please, I just restarted the main caimpagn).  It is enabled in the launcher.  I deleted everytyhing but the music mvp (the front page said it didn't have it) before puting the new ones in.  I also cleared the cache from freespace/data.  Sorry it this has been answered. but I didn't want to search through all 27 pages.

Also the planets seem like they've been 8-bitified and the transparency isn't working.

Could this all be from the "unrecognized command 'jpgtga'"?

[Vasudan Admiral]

If you follow the steps in the first post (you shouldn't need anything else from within the thread), then it definitely should be working - the jpgtga error implies that you have different command lines specified in the launcher. Can you go over the steps again to be certain? With those settings normal maps should be hugely obvious on the thoth, aten, amazon advanced, herc 2 etc.

If it's still not working, can you run a debug build and post the log here?

[FreeSpaceFreak]

With a 3.6.10 build, -jpgtga is obsolete. It's enabled by default. And the Aeolus has very visible (and ) normal maps, as do the Demon and Ravana

As for the transparency issue, check Launcher. Under the "Video" tab, Color Depth should be set to 32-bit. At 16, the planets are opaque indeed.

[Vasudan Admiral]

Oh I know it's obsolete - which is why it's not in the recommended settings list guide first post of this thread, and therefore that might imply that the guide hasn't been followed. Yay for leaps of logic.