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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
I'm new to the whole freespace open thing, and while trying to figure it out for nearly 2 horus i've given up and decided to look for help.
When i run mediavps as a mod (or any mod for that matter) I click on the button that gets you into the campaign (Campaign room?) and it loads for a second, then crashes, either by saying there was an error and needs to close or by just closing.
I know whoever reads this will just tell me I'm a retard and show my stupid and obvious mistakes... but it's worth it for such a great game...



Hi, and welcome to the forums! :)

First thing I would suggest is that you rename your FS2 directory from "freespace 2" to "freespace2" without the space. It's most likely not related to the problems you are experiencing, but it is good practice and might cause problems on some rare cases at some point.

Second thing - your command line is very barren at the moment, might be because of attempted troubleshooting, but if you're just running with "-mod mediavps" command line you are missing on most of the engine improvements. My command line looks like this:

Code: [Select]
Passed cmdline options:
  -spec_exp 15
  -fov 0.55
  -ogl_spec 30
  -spec_static 1.5
  -spec_point 1.2
  -spec_tube 1.5
  -ambient_factor 35
  -env
  -mipmap
  -missile_lighting
  -glow
  -nomotiondebris
  -spec
  -no_emissive_light
  -normal
  -cache_bitmaps
  -no_vsync
  -dualscanlines
  -rearm_timer
  -targetinfo
  -3dwarp
  -ship_choice_3d
  -warp_flash
  -snd_preload
  -mod mediavps

Some options need to be put on the custom flags text window on Features, but otherwise you should definitely turn a lot of stuff on - you certainly have the hardware to support it! GeForce 8800GTS should be able to use all the bells and whistles in the MediaVP's without any difficulties...

Thirdly, you don't need the CD's to play FS2_Open, and your game is detecting retail VP's in E:\ drive, so remove the CD from the drive.

finally, your debug log shows the following:

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Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Advanced.vp' ... 2610 files
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Assets.vp' ... 1679 files
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Core.vp' ... 72 files
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Effects.vp' ... 1022 files
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace 2\mediavps\MV_Music.vp' ... 15 files

while it should show the following (copied from my debug log):

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Searching root pack 'G:\Pelit\FreeSpace2\mediavps-trad\MV_Advanced.vp' ... 2610 files
Searching root pack 'G:\Pelit\FreeSpace2\mediavps-trad\MV_Assets.vp' ... 1867 files
Searching root pack 'G:\Pelit\FreeSpace2\mediavps-trad\MV_Core.vp' ... 139 files
Searching root pack 'G:\Pelit\FreeSpace2\mediavps-trad\MV_Effects.vp' ... 1032 files
Searching root pack 'G:\Pelit\FreeSpace2\mediavps-trad\MV_Music.vp' ... 32 files

A lot of files missing from your VP's it seems. This means that the majority of your VP files are corrupt most likely due to aborted download by Turey's installer, so you should probably download them manually from this thread's first post. Partial VP files mean that some data will fail to load, which shouldn't technically cause a CTD but that would be the most likely culprit in this question.

You might want to consider downloading the MV_Complete.VP instead of the separate files, since you definitely can use the Advanced stuff as well.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2009, 06:26:29 pm by Herra Tohtori »
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Offline Ninjoel

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Greatest Help Ever? Just maybe...

It's actually funny that you tell me to rename the folder cause I did that a loooong time ago... if it's still coming up that i have the space could that cause further problems? I hope not...

Otherwise thanks for all the help... I'm sure it should all be fixed... We'll soon see!!!


 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
If you've changed the dir name it should be reflected in the debug log.

Here's what you should do, rename the fs2_open.log to fs2_open.log.old, then re-run a debug build to the point where it crashes. Then re-post the newly generated debug log just to be sure it's valid.

By the way what operating system are you using?
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
As a side note, the "spaces in folder names" thing has been fixed for a long time, so it shouldn't cause anything with 3.6.9 and 3.6.10 builds.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
But... using spaces in directory names and paths is just... wrong... :(

I still think using no spaces in directory names is good practice. Besides with computers you never know when an old old issue comes back to bite you in the arse...
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Couldn't agree more, but at least with FSO it is no longer a source of pain and misery.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Ninjoel

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Couldn't agree more.
And to answer your question. I'm using Windows XP home...

 

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Couldn't agree more.
And to answer your question. I'm using Windows XP home...

That makes two of us... :sigh:
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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Hey everyone, I'm running 3.6.10 vp's with Mv_Complete.vp.  I'm interested in checking out some of the fighter interiors with the 'show-ship' flag, but can't figure out how to access the ships.tbl inside mv_complete. 
Maybe i can just put my own little .tbl specifying which ships I want to show into a folder somewhere and it'll override the relevant section of the full .tbl.  This true?  if so where does it go? 

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
That would be a modular ship table with the name ****-shp.tbm, not a tbl file.

It's relatively easy to do. It's probably best if you make a new mod directory for testing this kind of stuff, eg. ..\FreeSpace2\cockpits_visible\data\tables\

Then create an empty text file into that directory and name it for example cockpits_visible-shp.tbm (take care that you don't make it ****-shp.tbm.txt), and paste the following into the file:

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#Ship Classes

;;Terran Fighters. All the terran ships included here do have cockpits, but
;;some might or might not work well depending on how picky you are.

;;If you want to disable some ship model from showing, just remove or comment out
;;the appropriate section.

$Name: GTF Ulysses
+nocreate
$Flags: ("show ship")
+noreplace

$Name: GTF Hercules
+nocreate
$Flags: ("show ship")
+noreplace

$Name: GTF Loki
+nocreate
$Flags: ("show ship")
+noreplace

$Name: GTF Hercules Mark II
+nocreate
$Flags: ("show ship")
+noreplace

$Name: GTF Ares
+nocreate
$Flags: ("show ship")
+noreplace

$Name: GTF Erinyes
+nocreate
$Flags: ("show ship")
+noreplace

$Name: GTF Pegasus
+nocreate
$Flags: ("show ship")
+noreplace

$Name: GTF Perseus
+nocreate
$Flags: ("show ship")
+noreplace

;;Terran Bombers

$Name: GTB Medusa
+nocreate
$Flags: ("show ship")
+noreplace

$Name: GTB Ursa
+nocreate
$Flags: ("show ship")
+noreplace

$Name: GTB Zeus
+nocreate
$Flags: ("show ship")
+noreplace

#End

You can modify this file to include other ships or exclude some that don't have suitable views (Erinyes is a bit annoying for example).

Now, in order to actually use this file, you need to activate this mod in conjunction with the MediaVP's, which is in my opinion easiest to do by simply going to Launcher's "Features" tab, and typing -mod cockpits_visible,mediavps (plus other flags you might be using) on the Custom flags field.
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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Hey guys...is your Revelation ambient track working properly? A long while ago I noticed that it resets after a few seconds. Are you experiencing the same problem?
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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
The new one doesn't even seem to work on my computer. The old one should work fine, but the HQ one... :wtf: :rolleyes:
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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Hey guys...is your Revelation ambient track working properly? A long while ago I noticed that it resets after a few seconds. Are you experiencing the same problem?
Yeah. It's pretty annoying.

 

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Same here.

 

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Let me get this right, Mobius: You're talking about the one in mv_music.vp that apparently keeps looping at the drumroll? If so, that's been present since 3.6.5.
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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Yes. It would be nice if it was fixed.

Well, actually, what would be nice is if the entire music table system was overhauled to make it less silly in general but there's more important things for the SCP to be worrying about.

 

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Let me get this right, Mobius: You're talking about the one in mv_music.vp that apparently keeps looping at the drumroll? If so, that's been present since 3.6.5.
More like the first three seconds of the clip.

 

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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Well, I took the initiative.  :pimp:

EDIT - Since attachments are deleted after a while, I'm adding the content of the .tbm to replace the attachment:


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;
; RevelationAmb-mus.tbm
;
; Fixed Revelation Ambience track loop
#SoundTrack Start
$Soundtrack Name: 7: Revelation
+nocreate
$Normal 1: FS2_Amb_E01.ogg            28.0 176000
#SoundTrack End

#Menu Music Start

#Menu Music End


EDIT2 - You may wish to check this, more recent post as well. :)
« Last Edit: March 01, 2009, 10:40:27 am by Mobius »
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Re: RELEASE: 3.6.10 Media VPs
Nicely done.