[General Battuta]

WTF? Where did the post between chief's posts go?

[chief1983]

Good question.

[Enzo03]

Quick question..



...possible to turn off only hi-res models? My computer is crap and I can't get a new one any time soon..
If not, I'm gonna have to figure out how (if it is possible) to remove those models from the vp so I can run it like so...

[Herra Tohtori]

Quick question..



...possible to turn off only hi-res models? My computer is crap and I can't get a new one any time soon..
If not, I'm gonna have to figure out how (if it is possible) to remove those models from the vp so I can run it like so...

Try the detail setting from FS2 itself. That will allow you to lower the model level of detail.

Also, it doesn't work that way. Most likely it's not the models doing it anyway but the high resolution textures that consume all your video memory.

If you are using MV_Complete, you could switch to using the more traditional individual MediaVP's (Core, Effects, Assets, Music) and leave MV_Advanced out of it. That's where the really... well, advanced stuff is.

[Galemp]

Yes, don't forget that the FS2 Detail options still work perfectly. Try sliding the Models detail level down a few notches, that will use low-poly models more often.

[chief1983]

Unfortunately that doesn't change the memory use, just the rendering requirements.  But it's still kind of a crazy request.  If you're having a hard time with the models you're going to have a hard time with the rest of the mediavps because everything about them eats up more memory, has more detail, etc.  You either have a new enough rig to run them or you don't, that's kind of their purpose.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Are normal maps more or less resource-demanding than other kinds of maps?

[General Battuta]

More. But they're far less resource-demanding than the equivalent amount of detail rendered in actual polygons.

[portej05]

More. But they're far less resource-demanding than the equivalent amount of detail rendered in actual polygons.

It's official. Battuta is the Master of Understatement.

[chief1983]

That's debatable.  Depends on how many polies you're actually shaving off with the normal map.  But if you're gonna have a  normal map, you can go as hog wild with it as you want so you can almost always make it look worthwhile.

[Colonol Dekker]

Search for the shadows of lylat harlock test to see a great example of normal maps and shaders being toggled to see the benefits of normal maps while keeping a pretty low poly model

[Commander Zane]

I know someone mentioned having the old missile trails back, how's that done?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Wasn't that covered in the Celebration of FS thread already? It's a tablefile modification from what I read. The files are in the mediavps, but they are not listed in the tablefile.

[Enzo03]

Try the detail setting from FS2 itself. That will allow you to lower the model level of detail.
I'd try it if I still had the assets vp (I deleted it to make room for some other game... then when I installed it I somehow ended up with several more gigs of space than before installation O_o). I know where I can get it though.

Also, it doesn't work that way. Most likely it's not the models doing it anyway but the high resolution textures that consume all your video memory.
Maybe...

If you are using MV_Complete, you could switch to using the more traditional individual MediaVP's (Core, Effects, Assets, Music) and leave MV_Advanced out of it. That's where the really... well, advanced stuff is.
I never touched MV_Complete. I decided not to get MV_Advanced... just because, and ATM I don't have Assets because it kinda works well enough for me without it... though I do miss shiny stuff...

Responses in bold.
It'd probably help if I did get a new computer, but the funds are not available to me (I have to save up for college and I need ALL the cash I can get.)   ...because a craptop from 05 or so probably doesn't cut it

[Jeff Vader]

If my memory doesn't fail me, MV_Core is the "absolute minimum" if one wishes to try that. But if you have epic performance issues with the 3.6.10 MediaVPs, it would probably be best to either play vanilla or go back to the 3.6.8 MediaVPs.

[Enzo03]

Well while they are not "epic", they are less than favorable for most situations.
Hmm. I remember playing 3.6.7 (build and mediavps) and I would have HORRIBLE lags at first, then it would slowly smooth out... I once tried all the 3.6.10 mediavps on this computer and to my astonishment it didn't have those horrible lags... but I am guessing that this is based on the coding.
Visually I have it set up as far as I really need it to go (just the effects vp).


NOW THEN... I like most of the HQ music in the music VP (thanks Dan, you're awesome!), but there's two "HQ" tracks I don't really care for - brief 01 and brief 03... well I could live with 03. But 01 doesn't suit my tastes as well as the original.
Enh, sorry to complain. I've been having trouble finding any good modding resources/tutorials. Might play around with it for now
Edit: and thus Enzo learned almost everything he needed to know how to use about VPMage within the period of 10-15 minutes...

edit 2: And then he found he cannot see jump nodes... O_o

[Thaeris]

I just completely gutted FS2 (uninstalled EVERYTHING) and reinstalled it in preparation for upgrading to 3.6.10 and its associated assets. Are the links on the first page of the thread reliable/up-to-date OR will I need to read through the whole thread to make sure everything is properly patched (through manual action) before the MediaVPs are up to par? Even then, there's a few bugs left, no (no engine glow on the Hygeia, etc.)?

I'm going to refrain from using Turey's installer this time around for two reasons: Currently, the site is out of date. This implies the software is old. The software in the installer apparently also has a few bugs which make it unreliable at this time. Next, Vista being Vista, the installer worked perfectly (for 3.6.9), but once the software was installed the majority of the files were hidden from access. If there's a problem and something needs to be switched out, I can't do it given that condition. It's also a good leaning experience to install the update via components, maybe...

In retrospect, the last paragraph was possibly unnecessary. Thus said, what is the condition of the links?

-Thaeris

[Mongoose]

The links are just fine.  It wouldn't be much of an official release thread if the correct files were buried on page 17.

Also, I suppose it's too late to say this, but there was really no need to completely reinstall FS2.  So long as the only VP files in your main FS2 directory are the retail ones, and there are no mods shoved in the main freespace2/data folder, you can essentially add and remove mod folders without consequence.

[Jeff Vader]

And "installing" new builds is basically placing the builds in \freespace2\ and using the Launcher to select the one you want to use. And if you want to tidy things up a bit, you can even remove older FSO builds that you won't use.

[ViolentAJ]

I'd like to know where I can get
Readme
Mod.ini
Launcher Graphic

The links on the first page aren't working.