[karajorma]

Diaspora isn't a mod.

I think we should push the fact that the SCP has 3 total conversions already which don't require you to have Freespace 2 a lot harder.

"From what I've seen it appears HLP and the Source Code Project have not only kept the game engine up to date, but also created completely original campaigns, missions, and mods. They've even gone so far as to create new games based on Battlestar Galactica, Babylon 5, and Wing Commander, which don't need Freespace at all."

Those 3 names are big enough to attract attention from people who don't know or care about Freespace. Once they're here, we can interest them in FS.

[ssmit132]

I haven't been able to give much to the community (yet), so I thought I might as well put $30 towards this. I sent a message to Kagetsuki as well on Kickstarter.

[MatthTheGeek]

Diaspora isn't a mod.

Technically it is. You can still play retail with the same exe you play Diaspora with. Total conversions are just a specific brand of mods.

[Kagetsuki]

Update posted. Current running total $1,649.75.

I purchased FS2 from GOG btw, going to start testing the build chain etc.

[docfu]

Shouldn't he at least play through Transcend first?

[karajorma]

Technically it is. You can still play retail with the same exe you play Diaspora with. Total conversions are just a specific brand of mods.

If you say game, people will download it and try it out. If you say mod, some people will say "Well I don't have Freespace 2, pity I can't play this" no matter how much you scream at them that you don't need FS2 to play it. Which is why we've always said Diaspora is a game (using the FS2_Open engine) and not mod.

[Sandwich]

All good points; mentioning those games is fine with me, and I like how kara put it. However, let's keep in mind that this isn't an HLP advertising campaign - it's a mention of us as thanks for our contribution. So let's make sure that any rewording we suggest keeps that in mind.

[SypheDMar]

Shouldn't he at least play through Transcend first?

He can start anywhere he wants. There are so many mods that there is no starting point (except arguably retail) that one needs to start from. I didn't start on Transcend myself, for example.

[Infamus]

Who do I send my money to for the joint-donation? Hard-Light, SCP, or the Kickstarter?

[The E]

Added my 10$ to the HLP fund.

Infamus: You can either donate to HLP (which will then be aggregated and send over in a lump sum), or donate to the Kickstarter (Just remember to send Kagetsugi a message via Kickstarter to tell him that you want your contribution to be counted towards the HLP subtotal).

[pecenipicek]

i've tossed my $5 into hlp's donate button, so add that to the apngasm stuff that goes

[Sandwich]

FYI, it's better for those who can to donate directly to Kickstarter. That way you avoid PayPal transfer fees and make less work for me.

Which brings up a question... are all those who are donating directly to Kickstarter getting the benefits of their pledge levels? I'm guessing not, right?

[pecenipicek]

FYI, it's better for those who can to donate directly to Kickstarter. That way you avoid PayPal transfer fees and make less work for me.

Which brings up a question... are all those who are donating directly to Kickstarter getting the benefits of their pledge levels? I'm guessing not, right?

i'd have to go through the card validation thing with amazon checkout and i wasnt in the mood to read all the terms and conditions for that today in the morning

apropos, how much are the transfer fees? i know that paypal (or visa, since i went with that options) doesnt nom anything for the transfer from my side, and paypal lists it still as $5 in the receipt...

[The E]

It's a percentage deducted on the receiver's end.

[Sandwich]

Yep, it's something like 2.3% + 25 cents... something like that. I'm 80% sure about the 2.something % and the 25 cents, just not sure about the decimal point.

[pecenipicek]

duly noted for future reference

[Infamus]

Infamus: You can either donate to HLP (which will then be aggregated and send over in a lump sum), or donate to the Kickstarter (Just remember to send Kagetsugi a message via Kickstarter to tell him that you want your contribution to be counted towards the HLP subtotal).

Alright, Thanks.
I'll send it to the Kickstarter and pop Kagetsugi a PM. I've got an account on there already.

EDIT: Wrong "kickstart" website. The one I was on previously was "indiegogo." I need to make an account anyway.

EDIT2: So far I've pledged/donated 4 USD. I will give more if I get money in before the deadline.

[Scourge of Ages]

Which brings up a question... are all those who are donating directly to Kickstarter getting the benefits of their pledge levels? I'm guessing not, right?

That is a good question, one I've wondered myself. I was going to guess yes, since Kagetsuki seems like a cool dude, but it should definitely be clarified.

I'm really looking forward to the Photoshop plugin, hopefully he'll be able to send those out without a loss at least. The stickers I could do without, since they would actually cost printing and postage.

[Sandwich]

Which brings up a question... are all those who are donating directly to Kickstarter getting the benefits of their pledge levels? I'm guessing not, right?

That is a good question, one I've wondered myself. I was going to guess yes, since Kagetsuki seems like a cool dude, but it should definitely be clarified.

I'm really looking forward to the Photoshop plugin, hopefully he'll be able to send those out without a loss at least. The stickers I could do without, since they would actually cost printing and postage.

While that's true, if you look at the big picture of this donation drive here, it's HLP pushing to get APNG support for the SCP. That's one of the pledge levels, not a stretch goal, so there's no reason to expect anything but one instance of that pledge level's rewards being doled out to HLP.

We'll have to hear from him directly though, since it is an unusual situation.

I'm thinking that I should set a deadline for any PayPal donations marked for the APNG project, since I still have to transfer the funds and have that process complete before the end of the Kickstarter. There's 8 days left. Thoughts?

[Alan Bolte]

The currently listed running total is only $1600 - if you're going to transfer all the paypal donations in a lump sum, it might be best to verify that total is up to date and then determine whether to use other HLP funds to make up the shortfall.