[CT27]

If you were making a WIH campaign from the GTVA perspective, storywise what missions would you have in there?

A few I can think of possibly:

-Attacking the ships in WIH's opening
-Capturing Artemis Station
-A couple missions during the Blitz attacking Earth stuff
-Escorting Serkr somewhere
-A mission attacking an enemy convoy or something, afterwards you get a "Red Alert" briefing to go escort the Imperiuse and save the Carthage


I can't think of any for Tenebra right now, can you?


FYI, I know Scotty and some others are actually working on a GTVA campaign last I heard.  I don't know any specifics about that; I'm not trying to pry for info on that.

[Black_Yoshi1230]

Really imbecilic ideas I came up with.

- "Shoot the Moon:" Something about the orbital strikes on Luna... maybe like, there's an industrial or civilian complex that has massive fixed anti-air, and you have to perform SEAD to clear the way for bombers.
- "Hauler's Grief:" Escort run for a logistics ship on its way to Neptune or Artemis (you'd have to add your own twists...)
- "The All Seeing Eyes:" Combat involving intense electronic warfare (like defend your own Charybdis while you destroy a countering Oculus).
- "Spread Fear, Feed Lies:" Infiltrate the Feds' communication network, and send fake, demoralizing transmissions.
- "Sticky Situation:" Save a Diomedes from a Narayana strike.
- "A Breakdown in Communications:" Mark targets with TAG-C missiles for SSM strikes, but eventually have to save those ships launching the missiles.

[Woolie Wool]

I wouldn't do an Artemis Station mission because the battle is so lopsided there is no way the GTVA could possibly lose.

[Drogoth]

I wouldn't do an Artemis Station mission because the battle is so lopsided there is no way the GTVA could possibly lose.

All the more reason to do it.

I love watching the majestic tev ships spit out UEF wreckage after doling out some BEAMZ.

But yeah no, taking neptune might be a better choice.

Other segments of the battle during Aristeia as well. Maybe if we played it as an SOC wing we could disable Laporte's fighter in 'My Brother my Enemy'

Edit-

A variety of SOC missions involving the silencing of witnesses and sneaking supplies to the covert Imperiuse might be interesting.

[MatthTheGeek]

Sneaking supplies to Kostadin would be more interesting I believe.

[Drogoth]

Can't argue with that. I just wouldn't mind a mission where some poor UeF scout wing/cruiser runs across the Imperiuse and you have to hunt them down before they get a transmission out. Or something like that.

[qwadtep]

Sneaking supplies to Kostadin would be more interesting I believe.

Conversely, I could practically hear the briefings after being "betrayed" by Kostadin.

[Flak]

- Earth Sector Blitz (GTVA side), just another view of 'Darkest Hour' elsewhere in the system
- Collateral Damage, play as GTVA for that mission, like escorting the Serkr team or hunting down the Rhineland
- Various SOC black ops
-- The SOC ambush prior to 'My Brother My Enemy'
-- Deals in Shadows
-- Secret meeting with Kostadin Cell, facing an opposing Gef cell
-- SOC assault on Kostadin Cell
- Reverse Delenda Est - you play as one of the 212th Silver Scythes and escorting the Imperieuse shortly before Delenda Est, against UEF ambush.

[^Graff]

- Earth Sector Blitz (GTVA side), just another view of 'Darkest Hour' elsewhere in the system

SAAB Spaceframes?

[Drogoth]

- Earth Sector Blitz (GTVA side), just another view of 'Darkest Hour' elsewhere in the system

SAAB Spaceframes?

I love your name Bean

[redsniper]

Play as the entire Carthage air wing in DE. Every time you die, you jump to another fighter until there are no more left.

[Mars]

Sneaking supplies to Kostadin would be more interesting I believe.

Definitely - perhaps performing an op against another cell for them in return for their work.

[Gregster2k]

Patrol missions and sorties anywhere but Sol or Delta Serpentis.

I want to see what's going on in FS2's colony systems around Capella, see the BP universe outside of the front lines of war.  I doubt the GTVA committed ALL their fleets to Sol (that would undermine their ever-vigilant Shivan defenses) -- I want to see what's going on with the other ones.  See firsthand what the years have done to the GTVA colony systems.

EDIT (too many times):  This is not to the exclusion of other ideas.  I really like the Reverse Delenda Est idea.  A lot.  I suggest presenting the GTVA side as You Are Alpha One, with no characterization or dialogue, just as you were in FS2.  Alternatively have it as an Alternate Reality Storyline -- you get to change history, kill Laporte and co., crush the UEF once and for all?  Of course, that means we might be doomed, but hey, at least Alpha One will get to die gloriously in battle against the Shivan armada.

EDIT 2: A crazy twist launching point would be if the Imperieuse (and you) don't make it in time and the UEF actually succeeds in getting the Carthage (although I admit this is farfetched since the BP GTVA is quite precise)

[Aesaar]

- Reverse Delenda Est - you play as one of the 212th Silver Scythes and escorting the Imperieuse shortly before Delenda Est, against UEF ambush.

No.  No, no, no, no, no.  The entire point of Delenda Est is that the UEF had no idea whatsoever that the Imperieuse was still in-system.  An ambush on it before DE but after the Blitz runs completely counter to that.

[qwadtep]

- Earth Sector Blitz (GTVA side), just another view of 'Darkest Hour' elsewhere in the system

SAAB Spaceframes?

Oh man this could be so cool. Jump in with an AWACS, cripple the Fed battlenet before they can organize a response, call in some capships for a fleet duel while you tear into drydocked Karunas, taking their connected infrastructure with them...

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- Reverse Delenda Est - you play as one of the 212th Silver Scythes and escorting the Imperieuse shortly before Delenda Est, against UEF ambush.

No.  No, no, no, no, no.  The entire point of Delenda Est is that the UEF had no idea whatsoever that the Imperieuse was still in-system.  An ambush on it before DE but after the Blitz runs completely counter to that.

The UEF knew that the Hydra was in-system, though. I could see one of Calder's strike wings or even the Fedayeen tracking it through subspace to its rendezvous with the Imperieuse, and having to take them out before they bust your AWACS jamming or escape.

[-Norbert-]

I guess it's possible that the GTVA jammed the long-range communication of the wargods and the two attack groups were only able to communicate with each other, because they were comperetively close, but they couldn't get the info about the Imp from central command.

Or alternatively the ones that attacked the Imp were being jammed and thus no advance warning came through.

Or that particular ambush (or rather the leaked information, wether intentionally or accidentally that lead to it) is the reason for delayed arrival of the Imperieus and thus at fault for the divergence between the actual BP reality and the parallel reality Gregster2k suggested.

[CT27]

If you were a GTVA fighter/bomber pilot and a mission was to attack a Solaris destroyer, how would you go about that?

With all the defense weaponry they have, what would the strategy be in a mission?   

[SpardaSon21]

Stay out of CIWS range and call in Serkr Team and the Atreus?  There's no way strikecraft can assault a Solaris without massive losses.  The CAP and CIWS systems can easily buy enough time for the Ready-5 fighters to launch, and that will provide the time to let a Solaris recall/launch the rest of the air wing.

[CT27]

Can anything be done to at least soften it up a little for the destroyers/Serkr?  Or totally stay back and out of the way (and protect the GTVA strike force)?

[SpardaSon21]

Against the ridiculous PD of a Solaris their best bet is to stay the hell away and protect the strikeforce.  Even if a Solaris didn't have that massive CIWS screen the fighters would still need to protect the strikeforce unless those ship captains want all their weapon turrets and subsystems sniped by Uriels and their hulls pummeled by Durgas and Izra'ils.