[NickM]

Guys:

I have swapped my PC for a faster model; I have just downloaded WCS & NOW...I am looking for some additional missions that aren't too hard to download; I recall one that required that I aid in the capture of a Kat cap ship; and another one which had a 'retro' feel in that I raided a Kat convoy in a Rapier; bear in mind I have no idea what they are called anymore so can anyone point me to someplace I can download these & other fan made missions?

Thx

[The E]

Price of Freedom demo: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=50151.0
Behind Enemy Lines campaign by Tinman: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=62270.0

Please read the installation instructions carefully and follow them to the letter.

[NickM]

Got the Price of Freedom but 'Behind Enemy Lines requires FRED & a version of FS2 which I don't currently have; Thanks...are there any other ones?

Thx, ahead of time.

NM

[Jeff Vader]

'Behind Enemy Lines requires FRED & a version of FS2 which I don't currently have;

What it means is that you must
- download a new enough FSO build from the SCP board (3.6.12 RC1 should probably work)
- place the .exe files to your \wcs\ folder
- use the WCS Launcher and select the non-debug version of the build you just downloaded instead of whatever was previously selected (if you downloaded 3.6.12 RC1, you should select fs2_open_3_6_12r*somethingsomething*.exe).

It really isn't rocket science and you won't have to do any complete and thorough uninstallation/installation procedures. Just download a new build and use it instead of the one that came with WCS.

[NickM]

But Jeff I don't have a copy of FS2 either; don't I need it to make 'BEL' work?

Thx

NM

PS: I definitely recall a convoy mission with a rapier or some other heavy fighter and a 'capture a Kitty Capital ship & defend it from torp attacks' mission, too; I can' t seem to find it anywhere---or remember anything else.

NM

[General Battuta]

I don't see any reason you'd need a copy of FS2. Just make sure you have 3.6.12 RC1 of FreeSpace Open (which Wing Commander Saga runs on.)

[Jeff Vader]

But Jeff I don't have a copy of FS2 either; don't I need it to make 'BEL' work?

Please tell me: where exactly does it say that FreeSpace 2 is required? Keeping in mind that
- WCS does not require FS2
- FS2_Open is not the same thing as FreeSpace 2.
 
If you don't believe me, you can always buy FreeSpace 2 from Good Old Games for $5.99.

[NickM]

A fairly LONG time ago, I tried to play BEL & after rooting around a bit I was informed that I need to have FS2 AND that open whatchimathingy;

HOWEVER...IF you're saying I can install BEL and play it as a campaign in WCS then I am so there...at least unless I run into technical issues.

Thx

NM

[Jeff Vader]

A fairly LONG time ago, I tried to play BEL & after rooting around a bit I was informed that I need to have FS2

There could be a great many reasons for that but out of curiosity: who/what informed you that you need to have FS2?

[Talon 1024]

BEL Installation for dummies:

1. Install BEL to a subdirectory in your WCSaga Prologue folder.
2. Download this EXE from here and place it in your WCSaga Prologue folder.
3. Open up the launcher and select the fs2_open_3_6_10.exe using the browse button at the top.
4. Under the Mod tab in the launcher, select the BEL folder as a mod.
5. You are ready to run the game.

You do not need FS2 to run BEL; you only need a recent build of FS2_Open and the WCSaga Prologue.

[NickM]

OK I shall try.

NM

OK I am following the 'dummy's guide to BEM intallation:

I downloaded WCS & installed it; Check

I downloaded BEM & having no idea what a subdirectory is I put in 'somewhere in the WCS folder'; check

I download the EXE you told me to & 'copy & pasted' it into the WCS folder; check

I have gone into the WCS folder & found something marked 'launcher.exe' & opened it; check

I click on the launcher.exe & then click on the fs2_open_3_6_10.exe using the browse button at the top-I get the following warning: unrecognized command parameter-2d_proof, continue? And then a 'failed to read flag file' fatal error

I can go no further;

More help please.

[Jeff Vader]

I downloaded BEM & having no idea what a subdirectory is I put in 'somewhere in the WCS folder'; check

A directory UNDER the current directory.
- open up your WCS folder
- create a new, empty folder there. Name it BEM or something like that
- move the BEM files into that folder
- the Launcher should have a "MOD" tab. Go there, click "Select MOD", select the "BEM" folder, click OK and "Apply" the changes.

I click on the launcher.exe & then click on the fs2_open_3_6_10.exe using the browse button at the top-I get the following warning: unrecognized command parameter-2d_proof, continue?

That flag has been removed since FSO 3.6.9. Clicking "OK" or something similar should continue and remove that flag from the commandline, effectively letting you play.

[NickM]

OK I created the BEM folder and put all 56.9 Mb of it into the folder; when I select it from the MoD tab & start the game all I get is the 'old' WC Sage' campaign;

Looks like we need a 'moron's guide' to help me! 

Please continue with the help.

NM

[General Battuta]

Did you select the campaign in the campaign room?

[NickM]

The only campaign is the WCS prologue;

In case I have forgotten, I am VERY grateful to everyone who's trying to help me;

NM

[FekLeyrTarg]

Here's the mission with the Rapier:
http://www.wcsaga.com/content/view/133/101/
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=49950.0

[NickM]

Thanks; the Rapier mission works fine! But BEM is still not working.

C'mon Guys!  I STILL want to play this add on...keep the help coming.

NM

[The E]

If you have followed all the instructions, you need to:
1. Open the Launcher
2. Go to the mod tab
3. Select the BEL folder as the active mod
4. Hit play.

Pretty much what Jeff Vader said here:

I downloaded BEM & having no idea what a subdirectory is I put in 'somewhere in the WCS folder'; check

A directory UNDER the current directory.
- open up your WCS folder
- create a new, empty folder there. Name it BEM or something like that
- move the BEM files into that folder
- the Launcher should have a "MOD" tab. Go there, click "Select MOD", select the "BEM" folder, click OK and "Apply" the changes.

I click on the launcher.exe & then click on the fs2_open_3_6_10.exe using the browse button at the top-I get the following warning: unrecognized command parameter-2d_proof, continue?

That flag has been removed since FSO 3.6.9. Clicking "OK" or something similar should continue and remove that flag from the commandline, effectively letting you play.

[NickM]

When I start the game all I get is the 'old' WC Sage' campaign;

NM

[The E]

There should be a debug build in the engine package you downloaded (called fs2_open_3_6_xxd.exe). Select that in the Launcher, and run the game. Quit when you get to the pilot select screen, then retrieve the fs2_open.log file from <WCS directory>\data