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Offline NeoHunter

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Star Wars would win FreeSpace 2 anytime. Because Star Wars capital ships have shields and hundreds of turbolaser batteries and missile launchers. Some of their fighters are armed with Proton Torpedoes that can travel faster than a Cyclops and do severe or fatal damage to capital ships in FreeSpace 2.

FreeSpace 2 capital ships on the other hand have multiple beam cannons, flak turrets, laser turrets and some missile launchers. Since beams ignore shields, I'm going to have to say that FreeSpace 2 capital ships can still inflict a lot of damage.

Star Trek ships are armed with phasers and photon torpedoes. Their defenses are in the form of shields as for as I know. I think their ships suck.

Babylon 5 ships have weaponary that can counter incoming enemy fire. That's what I liked about the movie. One ship fires a salvo of fire at the other and is countered by a salvo from the target. I liked that. But that makes a small skirmish terribly long.

Overall, Star Wars wins.

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Freespace weapons are mainly Lasers, EMP weapons, or mass drivers, except of the Kayser, which is a particle weapon. Star wars would equal Freespace, I think, Star Trek has PHASERs and other particle weapons, as well as Photon Torpedoes (anti-matter warhead) and Quantum torpedoes (particle/ Zero-Point-energy warhead) that can travel faster then light. Also their shields are working different (they are called Deflectors for some reason...). They would surely kick SW and FS in a 1 to 1 battle (lasers against Star Trek shields is like a handlamp against a wall) For B5, well, they would probably kick them all.

 

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Make Your Time!  

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WhiteStar is roughly the same size as the Drazi Sunhawk which is a gunship  

WhiteStars have been more commonly refered to as Monitor's...but I don't know what that means  
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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
Overall, Star Wars wins.  

Uh, no. Freespace fighters are far superior to any Star Wars fighter because FS ships have more shields, MISSILES, no cute five ton paper weight that wistles and beeps, support ships to rearm in battle, afterburners, more powerful weaponry, making them in every way superior to any star wars ship, including that butt ugly deformed frisbee of a ship.
In addition, the missile tech for FS ships is, shall we say, not the same stuff used by fread flinstone! For example, hornet swarm missles would destroy many fighters in a couple of hits (half a volly). Cyclops torpedos pack a very big punch and could deal with many SW cappies. The Helios torpedo, however, could carve large gaping holes in many SW cappies.
Compare that to the Proton torpedo, which, if I remember correctly, barely scrached the UNSHIELDED Death Star (first volly, not the second volly fired by luke).
As for the cappies of FS Verses the cappies of SW, this point is not so clear. SW cappies have many laser guns, but no beam weapons. They also have shields. FS ships, although having no shields, have something more advanced then laser pointers, something called BEAM WEAPONS, which are very powerful beams of energy that punch through shields and do a number on hulls. Does everybody remember what one blast from the Lucifer's flux (beam) cannons did to that Vasuden city? It turned it into a crater if I remember correctly! Now just think of what a few beam hits would do to, oh say...an Imperial star destroyer! It would carve that pathetic thing up like a Turkey!
As for the Death Star (both of them), they would be no match for FS ships because all you would need to do is have a few corvettes and a couple of destroyers shell the ****  out of it after sending in several wings of bombers escorted by 5 wings of heavy assault fighters go in there and disable the deathray type cannon and watch the fireworks fly! Then again, you could also just send in an unmanned freighter with a Meason Bomb and put a gaping hole in the damn thing, followed by an attack force of five corvettes, two destroyers, and 25 wings of heavy assault fighters to finish off whatever is left of the Death Star.

Overall, Freespace kills Star Wars!  

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WhiteStars have been more commonly refered to as Monitor's...but I don't know what that means  

The only Monitor I am aware of was an old ship kinda of like a submarine, but it did not submerge fully. It was kind of like a submarine but the top, where the cannons were. The ship's hull was covered in metal plate and the first of its class was called the Monitor.
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Overall, Freespace kills Star Wars!  

I think, NeoHunter, you just got 0wned   Though not nearly so bad as if this was on the SB.com board.  
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Sob sob!! I will now jump of the highest building of Singapore.

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Aww it's not so bad dude. The debate will never end  
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*Reaches out to strangle Setekh*

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Ouch! *Rubs head*

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WhiteStars have been more commonly refered to as Monitor's...but I don't know what that means    

Found that in a dictionary:
Monitor: 1. flat gunboat with heavy artillery

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Offline Sushi

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My turn! Here's my take on FS vs SW vs ST(no B5 experience)

First, fighters: FS wins. Star trek doesn't have any worth speaking of, although the small ships they have do all have beam weapons. However, they wouldn't stand up to a serious fighter attack from SW or FS because those are actually FIGHTERS that are capable of manouvering. So ST is out here. FS still wipes the floor with SW though- SW ships are small and manouverable, but they have weak shields and crappy missiles. Even though SW lasers are probably more powerful, they fire extremely slowly. FS ships, on the whole, are larger and quite formiddably armed, with racks of missiles and twice the laser-fire rate. Also, FS ships have a critical advantage of afterburners- sorry Luke, you're going down.

Capships is where it gets difficult to judge. SW is the first to be eliminated this time- the ships only have laser fire to go on, even though it is rapid-fire and fairly high damaging. They seem to have weak shields that protect them only in a limited extent, and the SDs have easy-access shield generators for the FS fighters to pop. ST would have a more difficult time, but their beam weapons could blast them too. The difference is that apparently fighters can fly inside of SW shields, a readily apparent fact(a pair of AWings managed to destroy the ones on the SSD in ROTJ.) The only advantage SW has is the Death Stars, both of which wielded a supermassive beam weapon that could destroy any ship with a single hit. However, it was proven to be vulnerable to fighter attack, so FS could beat it, although ST would have a difficult time. SW is out of this one early.

ST vs FS is a tough call. ST ships all have beam weapons, shields, and bomb devices(photon torpedoes, Tricobalt devices, etc.) However, they are tiny beams, and they can't penetrate shields. Fortunately for Picard, most FS ships don't have any. Also, some ST caps have cloaking devices, a major advantage for ST. Also, ST ships are quite fast and manouverable compared to FS and SW ships. All FS has going for them here is big, powerful beams and carriers capable of launching fighters. The fighters would make life miserable for the ST ships- weak, but in high numbers, and the ST ships really don't have any antifighter weapons. The powerful beam weapons can slice through shields, but they are far less accurate and precise than ST's beams, which would probably be able to knock out the FS ship's weapons almost at the beginning of the fight. The winner here would probably be
ST, but only if they fired first.

In summary:

Fighters: FS,SW,ST

Capships: ST,FS,SW

Overall winner(by a point!): FS




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Primary weapons:
ST: PHASER (PHASed Energy Rectifier), Disruptor
SW: Laser, Turbolaser
FS: Laser (HL-7, Prometheus, SDG, Photon Beams), Mass Driver(Maxim), particle cannon (Kayser)

Ster Trek wins cause all ships are armed with advanced (particle) weapons.

Secondary weapons:
ST: Anti- Matter (Photon torpedoe), Particle (Quantum torpedoe)
SW: Proton Torpedoe, Concussion Missile, Plasma Bomb
FS: various missiles, fusion bomb (Cyclops), Anti- Matter bomb (Helios)

Dunno what exactly Star Wars warheads are, but fighter payload is pretty small. Star Trek has better (and larger) warheads then Freespace.

Defence:
ST: Shields, Deflectors, Tritanium/Duranium/Neutronium armor
SW: Deflectors, Durasteel armor
FS: Steel armour, shields on fighters

Laser weapons are no threat to Star Trek shields. Also armor is much more advanced then the others.

Star Trek has the most advanced technology, and would beat Freespace and Star Wars all the time.

True that Star Trek has no real fighters, but what they have has Phasers with a full firing arc, so they do not need to be very maneuvrable to take out fighters.

 

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*Sushi rips the wingtip laser off of an X-wing, uses a handheld phaser to trim it to proper axle proportions, and welds it into place with a handy AAA beam.  

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