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Title: Recycled audio
Post by: CP5670 on January 03, 2007, 12:54:45 pm
Have any of you ever noticed the same sound being used in completely different games? This is especially common with explosion sounds and beeps. One example of this is the repair bot selection sound in Deus Ex, which is the same as the Anaconda selection noise in Total Annihilation. One of the vehicle explosion sounds in UT2004 is also identical to the AP mine noise in Red Alert (unused, but it's in the game files). My brother was playing some 360 game a few weeks ago and we both distinctly recognized a beep from the Deus Ex interface, although I can't remember what game it was. There are many other examples I've seen in the past, although I can't seem to remember most of them at the moment.

Recently, I've also noticed this with music in a few places. The ambient sound in Mission Critical on Deck 4, the background audio in a few of the C&C cutscenes (like the deserted village one) and track 26 in MDK2 are all exactly the same. Also, track 9 on the Lemmings Chronicles CD sounds identical to the music in Monkey Island when you're following the storekeeper through the forest.

I am wondering if these sounds are publicly available somewhere, as the developers probably wouldn't use them if there were copyright issues involved.
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Mongoose on January 03, 2007, 01:14:35 pm
I've watched an interview with Rand Miller, creator of the Myst series, in which he says that he'll sometimes be watching a random TV show and hear the exact same door-closing sound effect that he used in the original game.  Apparently, a lot of people grab their sounds from the same place...or else all doors sound exactly alike when they close. :p
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: achtung on January 03, 2007, 01:25:57 pm
DooM's door closing sound is common, I hear it in quite a few movies and other games.
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: DarkShadow- on January 03, 2007, 01:28:58 pm
Yeah, recognized many sounds, especially in movies. Weirdest one was hearing the Warcraft 2 dragon sound being used as an explosion sound (don't remember which movie).
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Ghostavo on January 03, 2007, 01:35:22 pm
There are certain sounds that are sort of standard, and no one cares that it's the same in every other media to record a new one.
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 03, 2007, 03:37:08 pm
The C&C infantry guy's little deathscream, or one of them, is supposedly very common, but I've only picked up on it four or so times. Mainly in TV commericals.
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Ulala on January 04, 2007, 01:12:26 am
I often hear recycled sound effects, especially the original Doom's door sound effects, which were already mentioned.
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Nix on January 04, 2007, 01:26:13 am
I've heard sound effects used in TV shows which aired years before I've heard them in the game, yet I only notice it after playing, for example, Deus Ex, and listening to the opening and closing sounds of doors, then hearing that same close-door sound in the old TV Episode of The X-Files, which would have aired in 94. 

I think it's because sound designers for games and audio directors for movies utilize a gigantic library of pre-recorded sounds, such as the massive, and expensive Sound Forge SFX collection.  They pull from the same library of audio, and by coincidence, the same sounds are used in different TV programs and games of the like.

I've heard the missile tracking noise, and various interface sounds from FS2 used in television commercials, and TV programs as well.  It irks me sometimes that I'm so observant....

Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: CP5670 on January 04, 2007, 11:59:58 am
So such sound libraries do exist. That explains a lot.

About 10 or 15 years ago, this used to be so common that I think just about every game I played shared at least one sound with some other game. I don't notice it as much anymore, but these similarities still pop out at me quite often.
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Roanoke on January 04, 2007, 03:10:07 pm
there's a "door opening sound" from Goldeneye that I hear on telly all the time
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Nix on January 05, 2007, 01:47:39 am
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/loop_libraries/showloop.asp?SPID=399

And it can alllll be yours for the low low low price of $499 USD!
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Ulala on January 05, 2007, 08:04:26 am
Wowsers.
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Roanoke on January 06, 2007, 09:12:31 am
StarWars3 - Revenge of the Sith. At the start when the General's Cruiser dukes it out with the other fellas (clones, republic ?) and you see the clone gunner get wasted and a clone soldier is kocked toward the camera by the explosion and he makes an "aarghh" noice. Hear that one all the time.
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Nuke on January 06, 2007, 01:23:40 pm
this is no different that using the fill patterns that come with photoshop really. though i perfer to make my own, il still sometimes use one from the library. i figure sence the pros do it i might as well too.

ive also seen sites where you can buy sound effects for a few cents each. theres so much of this kind of stuff out there i would go as far as saying that some game companies could get away with not having any in house sound engineers. really its no different than using clip art.
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Thor on January 07, 2007, 08:08:44 pm
shortly after i had used this piece of free music in a contest winning video, I heard it in a bunch of new crappy commercials...

I swear they stole my music selection...curse them!
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on January 07, 2007, 08:45:19 pm
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/loop_libraries/showloop.asp?SPID=399

And it can alllll be yours for the low low low price of $499 USD!
Holy crap, Sony has to be the DUMBEST corporation ever.

I've watched an interview with Rand Miller, creator of the Myst series, in which he says that he'll sometimes be watching a random TV show and hear the exact same door-closing sound effect that he used in the original game.  Apparently, a lot of people grab their sounds from the same place...or else all doors sound exactly alike when they close. :p
God, I just love Myst (and Riven).
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Unknown Target on January 08, 2007, 02:13:49 am
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/loop_libraries/showloop.asp?SPID=399

And it can alllll be yours for the low low low price of $499 USD!
Holy crap, Sony has to be the DUMBEST corporation ever.

Why? It's expensive but it looks like it has a lot of sound effects. You probably wouldn't have to buy another set for a long time.
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Prophet on January 08, 2007, 05:30:16 am
Wilhelm scream FTW! :nod:
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Wobble73 on January 08, 2007, 05:56:39 am
I re-watched Star Trek V - The Final Frontier the other night and I recognised the cat creatures scream (you know what I mean, the dancer from Paradise City that attacks Kirk when he gains entrance to the bar type place) from something else, although I cannot recall what it was. Anyone know?
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: Ulala on January 08, 2007, 01:44:01 pm
I'd rather not discuss anything concerning Star Trek V.  :P
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: aldo_14 on January 09, 2007, 03:42:20 am
StarWars3 - Revenge of the Sith. At the start when the General's Cruiser dukes it out with the other fellas (clones, republic ?) and you see the clone gunner get wasted and a clone soldier is kocked toward the camera by the explosion and he makes an "aarghh" noice. Hear that one all the time.

The Wilhelm scream (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_scream)?

I've heard the Doom imp fireball noises a few times in TV shows - Dr. Who and that apalling highlander cartoon from way back.
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: chinaman on January 09, 2007, 07:09:03 am
Martian laser beam from War of the Worlds Original Movie 1950's I think :)  as Iron Man's repulsor ray sound fx in the cartoon series.  :D
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: SadisticSid on January 09, 2007, 09:27:56 am
I re-watched Star Trek V - The Final Frontier the other night and I recognised the cat creatures scream (you know what I mean, the dancer from Paradise City that attacks Kirk when he gains entrance to the bar type place) from something else, although I cannot recall what it was. Anyone know?

Yes, it was one of Ming's guards/soldiers from Flash Gordon. How the **** did I remember that? :D
Title: Re: Recycled audio
Post by: CP5670 on January 13, 2007, 05:09:00 pm
I noticed another one of these today. One of the bullet ricochet sounds in R6 Vegas is identical to one in Time Commando (a '95 game). :D