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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: TVWP Chapter 1 Release
It's just the TVWP Sagittarius with MVP textures. It's just a matter of fixing the mod.ini and renaming things in da pof.
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Offline Admiral Nelson

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Re: TVWP Chapter 1 Release
No, Taristin made an HTL Sagittarius ages ago.  It, along with a few other things, were missed in this release.  I'll take care of it soon.
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Did he made a HTL Reliant?

BTW. I have the HTL Sagi and I've noticed a few converting bugs like wrong-placed firepoints. I can fix it for TVWP if you want.
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Offline sgtbeil

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i think that they should hurry up with the rest of the chapters :D :P

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: TVWP Chapter 1 Release
Some progress may be made. Chapter 1 was sitting around basically complete for years, but nothing has been accomplished on Chapter 2 so far. T-Man has been good about looking at future options, but it's ultimately gonna be determined by the ability to get missions FREDded.

 

Offline Goober5000

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i think that they should hurry up with the rest of the chapters :D :P
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Re: TVWP Chapter 1 Release
No, Taristin made an HTL Sagittarius ages ago.  It, along with a few other things, were missed in this release.  I'll take care of it soon.

Does it have anything to do with INF's Lenaeus carrier?
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Spoiler:
In the mission Light Brigade, the mission just stopped after the Columbia hailed the Diana for the second time to surrender. I think I broke the mission by saving the Diana, since after a while I ~+K'd it and the primary objective became true. So confused.
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Re: TVWP Chapter 1 Release
No, Taristin made an HTL Sagittarius ages ago.  It, along with a few other things, were missed in this release.  I'll take care of it soon.

Does it have anything to do with INF's Lenaeus carrier?

Aside from the fact that they use the same basic model no probably not.
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No, Woo told me there were other differences. I'm not sure, though.
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Offline FIZ

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« Last Edit: November 02, 2010, 10:18:17 pm by FIZ »

 
SO I just finished it, and I have to say, it's kind of a mixed bag. Some awesome in there, some stuff I really disliked.

I'll just put my whole review in spoiler tags:

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Just to get the good things out of the way first: The overall story was great and interesting, and full of great ideas. I have some problems with details, but they are mostly matters of taste, more on the stuff that really bothered me later. Things like the United Earth fleet behind the second jump node made for interesting developments and were the story and mood highlight of the campaign for me.

I absolutely loved the feel of the first few missions in act I, to be honest, they are my favourite of the whole campaign. It felt genuinely different, challenging and rewarding to fly without all the candy that makes our lives so easy in FS.

The overall mission design was also good, with ammunition playing an important role, one really had to think about what to engage, shockwaves being extremely dangerous and fuel limitations on the afterburners made for interesting and gripping situations.

So, I would call this a very good campaign, bear this in mind before I come to the things that really kind of upset me.

The first thing I did in many missions was frantically adding ships to the escort list, and pressing F4 from time to time to read messages I missed. I really don't know why ships that are vital to the mission aren't on the escort list all the time. Nothing is more frustrating than having to engage a fighter that's on your tail and then searching through all the ships again until you find the one you actually need.

Then comes one point that is entirely a matter of taste, but I have to say it: I really didn't like some of the writing. While I enjoyed the overall storyline, I couldn't stand my wingmen and the Lunar Republic overall after a while... Somehow I felt like flying for the greatest dicks of Sol, that will knowingly fight dirty, do bussiness with criminals - all of which I could stomach, if it weren't for the arrogance they were showing all the time. Those crazy martians all envy us oh so superior Moon-men. Don't worry, quality over quantity, all those other factions have worse pilots than us, and we are really the best at everything. Oh, but we are also the likeable underdogs of Sol, because we only have one moon, and everyone else has a planet or even more.

As for Juan and Brock, I kinda liked some moments (like Brock's name origin talk and the feel of the talk in the final mission), but sometimes it seemed inconsistent, and I really didn't know if I should like either of them, because in some missions they just seemed to be trying to out-dick each other in different ways. Juan by sucking up to command and being as yellow as a rubber duck, and Brock by doing the opposite, but both in a strange, overall unlikeable way. But this is the point where "IMO" applies the most, as it's really a matter of taste.

But the whole mission "Light Brigade", this was when I actually stopped thinking "well, I have some problems with some of the stuff, but overall, this is really good" and actually literally said out loud: "Bull****!"

First of all: The mission design is incredibly flawed. If you are flying well, you can actually survive and shoot down all the bombers. Of course this will leave you without ammo, at which point I ran away about 5 clicks and just hit the time compression mode. I had to wait around 40 minutes until finally my destroyer bit the dust, and that was after several tries on this mission. And then... well... The bull**** part is of course the sudden turn the story makes.

So... A warship gets destroyed while carelessly charging into an enemy blockade. And this suddenly gets everyone - including the enemy - so teary eyed they call a ceasefire and want to negotiate peace, because... SOLDIERS ON A BATTLESHIP DIED IN A WAR  :( :(

I don't even get why your own wingmen get THAT stricken with emotion. It wasn't even the Luna, on which we were stationed far longer. And the JC and UNE? They should press on, use their advantage, and not go into: "OMG, what have we done, we have DESTROYED AN IMPORTANT ASSET OF OUR ENEMY! Oh god, let the killing end, let's make peace on terms that you may negotiate, oh wondrous Lunar Republic."-mode. No, seriously. I literally said bull**** to my screen after reading the outcome there. That would be THE chance of the UNE to annex their own moon and the JC to conquer mars. That would be the final turning point of the war, the Lunar Stalingrad, the point at which the UNE and JC have their victory...

Now, it could have worked, if there had been some more explanation on their motivation, like if they had lost a Reliant of their own during the engagement  - which as far as I can guess could only happen if it were disabled, which is next to impossible or at least very hard to achieve given the overall mission design there. It even gets stranger, when Brock in the next mission states "there will only be peace until everyone had a chance to rebuild." Chance to rebuild? Jovian and Earth..ican fleets seem to be in perfectly adequate shape to wage war against the crippled forces of M&M. There is no indication at this point, that their death toll has been so great, that they would give up on their chance at victory...

And the last mission... I get the idea, and I like it, but I don't like the execution. I don't see how it would completely destroy the negotiations, if KC forces identifiable as such would kill of some of the diplomats. It would make things a bit more complicated, but in the long run - shouldn't it more likely unite the factions against the KC? When they do a charge like that, everyone knows it was the KC that did it. Any reasonable man would not go and say "Oh, it was the fault of you martians" or "oh, you moon-people, it's all your fault". They would clearly say "damn those Kuiper crapmunchers!"

It would work perfectly, and IMO it would work only, if there were Kuiper agents planted among the forces that protect the convoy. So that they can really sow distrust among the men, if one of the martian ships, bribed, instigated or infiltrated by KC agents, suddenly attacked the lunar diplomats -THAT would be warmongering. But that all-out attack just doesn't convince me at all as truly threatening the peace effort.

So, overall, I love the campaign, and In appreciate all the hard work that went into it - but the ending just feels plain wrong to me. It may be just a matter of taste, I dunno. Maybe others will really like it, but I just couldn't stomach it...

 

Offline Goober5000

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I see I shall have to post the Unification War Guide when I get back.  It looked much better on paper. :)

We may end up declaring the Unification War "non-canon" for our purposes, since as you pointed out, there are a lot of aspects to it that don't make much sense.  Even now, the UW is non-canon with respect to FSPort and ST:R.

 

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I remember one thing that i thought odd was how the Alpha/Beta wing naming system that came to be used in the GTA was only used by the losing side of the war. :confused: (I assume that's only because when the campaign was started you could only use Alpha/Beta etc)

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As for the end, i had in my head that there was a Coup d'état on Luna during the battle, kicking out the warmongering leaders and replacing them with moderates who surrendered immedietly, hence the sudden change. I sincerely doubt that is the end of the U-war though; always imagined they'd be seperatists in every faction probably unhappy at the sudden alliance with their foes, and it'd take at least a few years to bring them under control, not to mention the GTA navy would be in total chaos with ships having different technologies and quality etc, so Earth's fleet (which i sensed was the most advanced) would likely have to take the lions share while the former colonial fleets were overhauled.

Maybe one day we could revamp the U-War era (spruce the storyline up, try to make it more canon, improve the graphics etc), but i feel for now that actually living up to the project's name with what we make would probably be most popular among fans. :lol:
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Don't all other factions use the Greek alphabet to name wings? Where's the issue? :nervous:
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Don't all other factions use the Greek alphabet to name wings? Where's the issue? :nervous:

Nope. What i had in my head from playing was Martians were using Russian terms, Earth used Oceans, Jupiter gases and the KC were colours.
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Is there any evidence to prove that the names of other factions' wings wasn't just an LR designation?  After all, if all sides DID use the Greek alphabet each faction would likely designate hostile wings differently.

 
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I always assumed all of the factions used the greek standard for their own wings and some own definitions - like you see in the campaign - for foreign wings.

I meen, in canon FS, you don't assume the traitors that sometimes pop up name their own wings "cancer" and the likes.

 

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Those must be designations. The LR don't know anything about those hostile wings thrown at them, and came out with specific naming convention.

Still wondering why Jovian wings are named after Italian cities. Must have something to do with Galileo, I think... can anyone confirm this?
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