[karajorma]

Really? I thought there was more recent builds available from the stable branch.

http://www.freespacefaq.com/Downloads/BtRL/BtRL_D3D_Exes.zip

That's slightly newer. It's the version from BtRL's last patch so it's 3.6.9 plus the glide changes and a few other minor fixes.

[castor]

Thanks Kara

[ARSPR]

nvidia has just launched 169.09 drivers.

I'm a bit tired about installing and unistalling 169.xx drivers because of being defective. So could any 169.xx driver user test this new release?

Known issues, at least in my system (Vista 32 bit + 8800 GTX):

• A lot of resolutions are missing. As example 1280x960 isn't available anymore. (You can check it in Windows Display Properties or in Launcher > Video > Resolution).
• GLSL doesn't seem to work.
• A lot of ships have a strange chessboard texture effect. Look at the initial screenshots of this same thread.

Thanks in advance.

[Cobra]

the 169.09 drivers work fine in FSO, except for GLSL. I'm sure I'll be able to run this.

[EDIT] I wonder if your problem is because you're using Vista?

Man, I wish D3D worked. Everything loads wicked fast and the textures are much sharper. Transparencies aren't handled very well though.

[Zacam]

So, if the GLSL is broken, then they do NOT work fine.

Half a driver is no driver in my opinion, especially not with OGL being a highly used impliment of gaming.

And yeah, DX make look sharp and fast, but it's nothing compared to a properly coded OpenGL.

[Cobra]

They work fine in everyone else.

[ARSPR]

I've just read the 169.xx release notes > Open issues. It doesn't say anything different from 163.75 which works fine. But nevertheless here you are, in case it's useful for coders:

OpenGL Application Issues
The following are known compatibility issues for OpenGL applications developed
under Windows XP:
• Mixed GDI and OpenGL rendering does not work.
A number of applications use GDI to render UI components and object
highlighting. This is not supported in the Windows Vista driver model.
NVIDIA recommends converting GDI rendering to OpenGL.
The following are some applications that are known to have this issue:
  Maya 7.01
  OneSpace Designer Modeling
• Applications, Tools, and Benchmarks not Supported Under Windows Vista
  GLperf
  3ds max 8 (later releases may be supported)
  CATIA V5R15 (V5R16 is supported)
  PTC’s CDRS 2001
• Front buffered rendering may be slow, especially when DWM is enabled.
Flushing the rendering queue while rendering to the front buffer may cause the
window manager to recomposite. Applications should therefore minimize the
frequency with which they flush the rendering queue.

[ARSPR]

Ooops a double post 

I've just installed 169.09 and again it doesn't work fine. It still suffers the three issues I posted above.

[AdmiralRalwood]

Blame Vista.

[Gloc]

It's like that on XP, too. And since I won't be playing Crysis any time soon, I'm sticking with the 163.75 drivers for the time being. 

[jr2]

You can still run Crysis with 163.75... I did.. it's just that it runs a bit slower.

[ARSPR]

You can still run Crysis with 163.75... I did.. it's just that it runs a bit slower.

That's what I'm doing  . As I said in other thread, sorry Crysis but FSOpen rules 

Offtopic: BTW the difference I get with my setting in the GPU benchmark is from 24.8 fps (169.09) to 21.3 fps (163.75); more or less 15%.

[jakeslogan]

Hey everyone, I've got sumthings to ask, since I don't want to make any new thread.
I've make a search for free space system requirement but so far no luck.
Well, my question is:
-Can I play SCP with an old T&L ATI Radeon 7200??? I don't need all of its features, i just need to play with the beautiful model.

[Cobra]

To be honest, I don't think a 7200 will cut it.

If it somehow does work, it'll just barely scrape by.

[ARSPR]

Hey guys, nvidia has just released 169.21 which:

• It says is WHQL Candidate.
• GLSL and general rendering work again. And no more chess-pattern ships.
  
  BUT
  
  
• 1280 x 960 resolution (and many others) is still missing.

So please could any one confirm these issues. And, please, does anyone know a hack to enable 1280 x 960 resolution?

[Cobra]

Is 169.21 an official driver or another Crysis-esque driver?

[ARSPR]

Is 169.21 an official driver or another Crysis-esque driver?

As I've said, it says it's "WHQL Candidate" recommended for DirectX 9, 10 and OGL games. It's not just a Crysis driver (or at least that's what nvidia says). Go to nvidia beta download and see it by yourself.

[Cobra]

Uh, ok. But it better not have any OGL problems.

[ARSPR]

Oooops, an update about 169.21

Now, OGL rendering ONLY works with GLSL. If you use -no_glsl then you get the chess board misplaced texture effect. (I upload a screenshot)


So it's a bit scary that this driver release is "WHQL Candidate" 

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[Admiral Nelson]

Do normal maps work?