[BlackDove]

The shot was taken a year ago, way before edits were done. Correcting the spelling gets you edited. You have been warned.

Personally I still think it kicks ass so I felt like sharing.

Enjoy.

[Cobra]

hey, not bad. you just rekindled my interest in BWO.

[Bobboau]

you, know all those screen shots have been made public already, they were releast around the time of the DS scare.

[Trivial Psychic]

Are those Apollos I see?

[Bobboau]

of a sort

[NGTM-1R]

Ah. They're the Apollo-like things from Twilight, then...

[Bobboau]

no.

[Jetmech Jr.]

Originally posted by BlackDove


The shot was taken a year ago, way before edits were done. Correcting the spelling gets you edited. You have been warned.
 

Err...Spelling? I can see nothing wrong with the spelling in that pic...

[Ace]

Originally posted by ngtm1r
Ah. They're the Apollo-like things from Twilight, then...

The Creon was Apollo-like?

But there's no GTF Creons in BWO. The Laomedon Conclave has long been disbanded.

[NGTM-1R]

Not the Creon; maybe I'm thinking of the wrong campaign. Had funny grey-painted Apollos.

[Bobboau]

hey, that was that slightly modified ulyses, right?
do you still have that?

[Ace]

I still have Dark's SOC Ulyssess

[Cooked Salmon]

Hey guys!  I used to be the poster Grand_Admiral_Abaht.  I'm glad to see that this project's still going strong.

Tell me Ace, are those Apollos from the same vintage batch that Commander Julia Talstavi ordered in Twilight?  I always loved that command brief you wrote on how it was the Apollo, not the Hercules, that won the Great War.

The Creon did suck, but I actually liked the NPW canon.  I recall it did decent damage, and the weapon had a neat backstory.

BTW, was the Laomedon Conclave disbanded in Twilight?

[BlackDove]

Ace must've been smoking some heavy sh!t when he wrote that.

Hercules won the Great War.

[NGTM-1R]

Well, that all depends on how you define "won".

THOSE are the Apollos I meant, the ones from Twilight. They were grey in ship-selection screen for some reason.

[BlackDove]

The Apollo, in any form, Twilight or FS1 vanilla, went out together with the ML-16.

The best it could have served for in time of war, was destroying Asteroids so that a convoy might pass. That's it.

[Mad Bomber]

The Apollo was actually fairly decent for its heyday (2326-2334) and served fairly well against both the PVN and the Shivans. Its strong hull and easily refittable chassis served it well during the chaotic years of the Reconstruction, too.

Plus, I also think the GTA used the Apollo in some form for assault and bombing missions prior to the Herc and Medusa. That's right, the Apollo chassis. Modified variants, yeah, but why come up with a new design when you can churn out lots of parts for the old one and adapt it to a lot of roles at once?

Granted an Apollo isn't going to do as well as a shiny new Myrmidon (which among other things is faster and more agile) but hey, it's not 2335 anymore, so what do you expect?

Plus the GTA was pretty cash-strapped in the Reconstruction, as evidenced by their inability to stay in one piece, and their massive industrial base in Sol. Thus it was unlikely that the development of the Myrmidon really crystallized until some time after the GTVA popped into existence around '45. Apollos were probably used in the boonies and myriad Terran Blocs and GTVA for a while (well into the Fifties is my guess) and even longer as training fighters.

So, in short, the Herc may have won the Great War, but the Apollo was the stalwart of both the T-V War and the Reconstruction.

*stands firmly behind Apollo*

[Boomer]

You're both wrong.

The Ursa won the Great War.  

Who took down the Lucifer? Hmmm?

Although, I like to think that the Ulysses won the war.  It heralded the alliance of Terran and Vasudan in the war against the Shivans.

[Ace]

I did forget that Talstavi asked for a wing of Apollos to be yanked from mothballs.

As a ship (both Dark and I agreed on this) it's not bad. Decent manuverability, shields, and hull. Fitted with Prometheus cannons and Hornets it's very effective. (there seems to be some misconception that it can only fit ML-16s as primaries)

The NPW-2 did decent armor damage. The trick behind this gun was that it had splash damage and energy drain along with extra shield damage.

There will be a variant of the NPW-2 in BWO.

The Creon is slow, has a large profile, and has weak armor.

On the other hand, its shield systems were as strong as those on a Shivan bomber. Similarly it had a large energy pool for its six primaries and had a relatively large secondary bank.

It also had a large afterburner pool and high "overclocked" engine speed.

[BlackDove]

As a ship (both Dark and I agreed on this) it's not bad. Decent manuverability, shields, and hull.

You were both wrong. It went out with the Anubis, about the time the Ulysses project completed.

The Valkyre overshadowed it as soon as it went into production. It pretty much died there.

The moment the Hercules appeared, with the new construction of engines and the devastating power of its main guns, a new standard was set.

The Apollo died in the first third of FS1. It's junk.

However - a logical MK2 would be able to compete with the Erinyes (Erinyes being the best fighter GTVA has to offer at the end of FS2 - yes the Aries is second to the Erinyes).