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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Stealth on September 01, 2004, 09:05:26 am
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click me (http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/iso/freespace2/)
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Wooo!
Disks arent broken though... (is this good, or bad?)
*downloads backup for when they do
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it's pretty much a freeware game now anyway.
i just realized that my disk 3 is corrupted, so therefore iso3 is corrupted too :-/ i just created a new iso from my other set of FS2 CDs and i'm uploading iso 3 right now.
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k. iso3 is ready for download.
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this would have come in handy the other year, i had to search long and hard when i bought the second copy of fs2 (the first one was scratched)
how long are you kepping em up?
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My first copy was scratched but luckily they had a second copy at the place I bought it at. THis woulda helped me too. I looked for days for...uh...tango2 I think. The biggest one, that is. Finally Karajorma helped me by sending it through yahoo in 10 rars.
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i'll try to keep them up as long as i can.
i'm also uploading all FS2 VP files... www.swooh.com/lorenzo/iso/freespace2/
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I've just get today a new original sealed FS2 from Ebay.
Because my CDs are already a little bit damaged, I used the chance the buy this game one more time for very little money. I'm really glad to own such a wonderful game-box with the original content :D
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I need to bookmark this page. :)
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Originally posted by SFN-Darkwarrior
I've just get today a new original sealed FS2 from Ebay.
Because my CDs are already a little bit damaged, I used the chance the buy this game one more time for very little money. I'm really glad to own such a wonderful game-box with the original content :D
lol yeah i was looking a few days ago on ebay, and you're going to have a hard time getting FS2 from Ebay for under $40.00 there's some auctions close to $60.00.
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yeah ok. all the FS2 VP files are uploaded too.
kthx.
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Mine are in decent condition. The CD3 is actually very scratched up and is unreadable by my laptop CD drive, but both of the desktop drives can read it just fine.
This would be very useful for some other people though. :yes:
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hey i just broke my silent threat cd:D
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Originally posted by Stealth
lol yeah i was looking a few days ago on ebay, and you're going to have a hard time getting FS2 from Ebay for under $40.00 there's some auctions close to $60.00.
Yes, I already followed this for quite some time! I got it for 8 Euro, so a proxima 10 US-$. It seems like the guys of ebay.com are really getting insane when buying this rar programm:)
A problem we germans don't have at this point of time:D :p
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LOOLOL. i don't think Freespace 1 / silent threat would legally be as easy to upload ;)
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Heh. I backuped my FS2 CDs on DVD with SCP features (now outdated) of course :)
But it's nice to have them on swooh anyway. Even a DVD can get a scratch.
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good idea. Iv lost so many copies of FS2. I still have the originals, but they are in a practical lockbox.
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Okay so i'm downloading these files now. Once I have them all downloaded, I can burn them onto CD's? I don't have the original game. I can't find it for sale for cheap!
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You can burn the iso's onto CD. Just choose the burn image option in whatever CD burning program you use. :)
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Alright... once I get all the files downloaded(Yikes, never ever downloaded 3 gigs worth of files before for a game that is 5 years old!), which files go on which CD's? I'm sure its gonna have to be multiples, since they are all 3gigabytes and a bit more. Also I ask because i'm kind of a CD burning nooby.
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Hey Raziaar, welcome to HLP. :) The 3 ISO images should be sufficient to cover the three CDs - the other individual files are all contained in the ISO images, and are more intended for people who've already got most of the stuff installed but lack one or two archives. If you burn one ISO onto one CD and install from CD1, you should be fine.
Go post in the FTP server thread Stealth, people will be real curious there. :)
:welcome:
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Doh! you're telling me I downloaded an unnessesary 500 megabytes of files? I was downloading overnight 3 of the iso's, and 2 other files, of which those two totaled 500mb. Unfortunately i'm on a bandwith limit. So if those others aren't required if I have the iso's, at least I wont be using 1/3rd of my monthly bandwith downloading this! more like 1/5th.
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Originally posted by Raziaar
Unfortunately i'm on a bandwith limit.
yeah, so are we. so don't download files unnecessarily :p :D
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Originally posted by Nuke
hey i just broke my silent threat cd:D
Good! :nod:
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lol. yeah, that's true. you're really not missing anything ;)
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Well, Silent Threat did come with a bunch of cool user-made missions, especially the Destiny of Peace mission. Plus, it included the Seraphim, Hades, Loki, and Zeus. Even if you don't play the campaign, those things are worth it :).
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true, but with AHTW, and ST:R, you can forget about the origonal...
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But the Silent Threat CD also included a bunch of cool supersecret stuff, like the Headz video.
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I forgot about that! How could anyone live without Headz? :p
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GD... here (http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/iso/silent threat) you go
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Having some trouble installing all 3 iso's.
I burnt the 3 iso's, one each to a CD. cd1 installs fine, but I can't seem to direct the cd2 process to the actual CD2 I burned to continue the installation process. What do I do?
EDIT: Nevermind, copied the second and third Iso's to a directory on computer, extracting them and its working =)
EDIT 2: ARgh! iso 3 isn't installing correctly! I don't know why.
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Originally posted by Stealth
GD... here (http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/iso/silent threat) you go
*downloads*
I've never played ST. not for real atleast. I saw it in the Port, and thought it sux0red. But I wanted to see the vid's...
Damn 7.2KB/sec DL speed
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When directing the install to the last directory of files from ISO 3 it gives me this error.
(http://img19.exs.cx/img19/1922/Error3.jpg)
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Nice red dot. :doubt:
It may have to be on CD to work... Really having that much difficulty burning the ISO's to disk?
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The red dot is just to block the name of the folder it was in =P
Anyways... it wont let me direct to ISO files on the cd's to install the game, only if the iso's are extracted and on my hard drive. Number 1 and 2 worked, but not 3.
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Hm.
Did you burn the ISOs to 74-minute discs or 80-minute ones?
The FS2 cd-check requires some discs to be on 80-minute disks, but I'm not sure if that extends to the installation as well.
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Originally posted by Stealth
GD... here (http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/iso/silent threat) you go
downloading now...
for uhm backup purpouses uhm yea
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They are 80minute discs. Maybe its a corrupted file? I would want to make sure before I download 600+ megs again!
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Try installing Daemon Tools (http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/portal/portal.php). That will allow you to mount the isos as if they were in a real CD drive.
That way if your problem is caused by swapping CDs or because there was an error when you burnt the iso to the CD it shouldn't appear as you can leave the real CD1 in one drive and mount the other two ISOs at the same time.
Usually I wouldn't reccomend installing a program just to cure a software glitch but everyone who does anything with ISOs should have Daemon tools installed anyway :)
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I don't actually 'have' a freespace 2 original disc. Did I misunderstand and I actually 'need' one?
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No, you don't actually need one. In theory the ISO should be a complete replica of the original disk in memory, that can be burnt back on as though the new disk was original. It doesn't necessarily hold true in practice but that's not the problem. Kara's suggestion is to burn ISO1 to a CR-R and leave it in the tray, while mounting ISO2 and ISO3 using Daemon tools.
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Yeah. Shouldn't have used the word real when what I meant was physical :D
We already know your first CD works so no need to mount that.
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Wow, sorry for all the hassle I caused with this guys, but that program you gave, the daemon thing works! I hope I can play it in the morning, its too late now. So excited!
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:) Yeah. That means that you'd burnt a bad copy of CD3. You should probably burn it again so that you have a backup in case you ever need to reinstall.
Have fun playing FS2. :) I'd recommend you looking up FS2_open but I feel you should play FS2 Retail a little bit first so you can see what an improvement the SCP have made to the game :)
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Originally posted by Raa
Damn 7.2KB/sec DL speed
yeah i can believe that. it'll have its ups and downs. but it is moving pretty slow lately :-/
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Originally posted by Raziaar
Wow, sorry for all the hassle I caused with this guys, but that program you gave, the daemon thing works! I hope I can play it in the morning, its too late now. So excited!
good, cause you had me panicking for a second there...
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!!!!
i know why it was slow.
because there were 65. SIXTY FIVE people downloading files in the /iso/ directory. mostly the ISOs, a couple of VPs.
oh, and two people downloading the silent threat ISO
i'm taking them offline for the time being. i didn't think it'd get this bad.
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Damn. That's a real pity Stealth but at least the time they were up should have gotten us some new members.
Any chance you could leave the VPs up? They were getting more reasonable traffic by the sounds of it.
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ahhhhhhhh. i was soooo close to being done dl'ing the last iso!!! I will be patient....I will be patient
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Anyone else willing to generously host these files? : P
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i'm trying to think. i can either do it that if someone wants the ISO i give them the link, or... i dunno. but you're not going to find someone to host close to 4 GB of files that are getting dozens of requests an hour.
anyone got any ideas what i should do? karajorma? i mean you see where i'm coming from, right? i can't leave them up and have people complaining about downloading at 10 Kb/Sec - , and serving 60 different people at one time. i mean that's insane. insane for a 600+ MB file.
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Stealth - You got anything that can host a bunch of BitTorrents for all those files?
Then all you gotta do is set them running, limit the upload rate to something crap and let all the people DL'ing it share the load :)
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they're running off a linux machine. does bittorrent even support linux? (or vice versa :p ) either way, i could do it off MY machine, but i've only got 40 kb/sec upstream, so that would be pointless :-/
i'll wait for some more ideas, particularly karajorma's. anyone else got any though?
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upload a torrent at suprnova... :nod:
and I'll let my upload rate run all night, so we can have GOOD downloads! :nod:
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i'm not really too familiar with bittorrent. you'd have to explain to me what i should do
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Download the software bit torrent...
Upload the torrent at suprnova.org and then people (that have bit torrent can download and upload it at the same time, so when you get done downloading you can leave the upload rate running so people downloads will be faster :)
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I just need the last 25% of the third ISO. Is there any way I could get it without downloading all the ISO's again via bittorrent?
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My friend suggested that the FreeCache project may be useful here (http://www.archive.org/web/freecache.php) but I've never tried it before.
re. BitTorrent, If you have Python on the Linux box and it's not behind, like, a NAT firewall or something then you can run BitTorrent on it easy :)
(BitTorrent was made to be cross-platform; Anything that supports the Python interpreter can run it).
I wouldn't worry about upstream speeds - I've run torrents off my machine, and I only have 20kB upstream. Once the ball starts rolling, people will get very good speeds (Assuming the downloaders don't disable their uploading. I hate leeching gits that do that...).
Downside of running it on your machine is that if your machine's IP gets changed, the whole thing stops working so it's not ideal. It also means the damned thing has to stay on all the time until you wanna kill the feed...
Anyhoo, this is the homepage: http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/
For Linux+Python, goto the Download bit and get the Python Source (zip, tar, whatever).
Then you need to unpack that in your user area or whatever. There are instructions in there on creating a torrent feed in the "README.txt", and they're not too bad as opensource instructions go. :p :lol:
You don't actually need a webserver despite what it says (The webserver is just to get the .torrent file out to people so they can download, but you can do that by any means (ftp, e-mail, IM, IRC etc.))
If you try it and get stuck, post and I'll see what I can do (Assuming I'm still awake. I'm probably gonna go crash in a few minutes :))
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David_Leench: If he gets the BT running, just run the tracker and when it asks you where to save the file, point it at your ISO. Assuming the tracker and client are working properly, it should resume it. (I hope :))
jdjtcagle: I'm not a big fan of suprnova - Most of the people that use it are leechers and don't bloody upload anything!!
It really pisses me off when I see a seed with 3000 clients attached but only like, 25 uploaders!! :hopping:
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Yes, it would check the existing file before finishing the download :)
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Originally posted by David_Leench
I just need the last 25% of the third ISO. Is there any way I could get it without downloading all the ISO's again via bittorrent?
you wouldn't have to download all three ISOs, you'd have to re-download the third ISO though.
there's not much chance of running bittorrent off swooh. i'll see about doing it on my machine though.
or one of you that's downloaded all three already could do it.
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You don't need swooh... IIRC
and with bit-torrent you wouldn't have to restart, it picks right back up were you left off...
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Originally posted by Cyker
jdjtcagle: I'm not a big fan of suprnova - Most of the people that use it are leechers and don't bloody upload anything!!
It really pisses me off when I see a seed with 3000 clients attached but only like, 25 uploaders!! :hopping:
Many people here are going to be uploading it... *raises hand*
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EDIT: Dang you fast posters!! :)
Stealth: True... alright the rest of you, any takers?? :)
We just need someone with a stable connection, isn't behind a firewall (Or can open up the right ports) and a machine they don't mind being left on for a few days :D
Preferably someone who knows how to hack (And thus stop people hacking their box... My poor 486 SSH server's been swamped by probes in the last few weeks!) and is running a Linux box.
(I've never tried to start a tracker running in Windows...)
Mmm, that seems to limit our choices somewhat...
jdjtcagle: Yeah, but the problem is when lots of people leech and only a few upload, the uploaders get their connections swamped and everybody gets crap download rates which totally defeats the purpose :(
Swooh would have been ideal since it's a stable server, (:p)) but as you say it's not necessary :)
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ditto that
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Swooh a stable server!? :lol:
anyway, I still think Suprnova is hte best choice...
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Well... if only to host the tracker then you're probably right. I'm not sure how to set up cross-server torrent's 'tho.
AFAICS most of the ones on suprnova are just the .torrent files, pointing to an existing server that's hosting the tracker and the files...
BTW Stealth, if you DO put it on your machine, make sure you add --max_upload_rate 20 or something to the command line. You do NOT want to let BT have all your bandwidth, trust me on this!!
(I left out that line and my SSH link immediately timed out when people started connecting to it!! :))
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I was almost certain you could upload it on to there...
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Well... you could be right; As I say I am not that familiar with suprnova :)
You could check it out 'tho. I'm gonna go sleep now... brain is trying to go into suspend mode :)
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Well I'm not sure, especially not now, since it aint working...
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Originally posted by Stealth
anyone got any ideas what i should do? karajorma? i mean you see where i'm coming from, right? i can't leave them up and have people complaining about downloading at 10 Kb/Sec - , and serving 60 different people at one time. i mean that's insane. insane for a 600+ MB file.
I sympathsise completely. The sad thing is that a fair few of those downloading probably are members of this board who were downloading the ISOs as a backup for their own disks rather than simply ripping them themselves.
What you could do if it's not a lot of trouble is to cut the ISOs apart and share different chunks every day/week/whatever. That would seriously cut down on the casual downloading while still being useful to those who really need it. Might be a bit of a hassle for you though.
I agree with the bittorrent idea. Might be worth me ripping the files myself and adding them to my E-Mule shared folder :)
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Why don´t you guys just use eMule? It has thousands of sources, and you don´t get leeched. You download at the same time as you upload to others. And it´s all done in chunks, wich means you can stop and restart as many times as you want, with no trouble.
I got my ISOs with it, in 24 hours time. Forget about Bittorrent, or Kazaa, or any other crap. Stick to the eDonkey network, and you are home free.
You can also powershare any file you want, wich means you only use your bandwith to upload a certain file you want shared faster.
There are versions of eMule that work for specific countries aswell. I have a version that downloads and uploads ONLY to and from people from my country. That saves a lot of money on international traffic with your net provider.
Anyone who wishes to know more about it, visit the "www.shareconnector.com" site. PM me if you want more info on this.
:yes:
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Swooh a stable server!? :lol:
i'm curious. tell me why you don't think it's stable? is it because your download rates aren't steady throughout the entire download? are you aware why you don't get a steady, fast download from Swooh, which is sitting on a 5 Mbit upstream connection?
i'm thinking of just biting the bullet and opening the ISOs again, if only for another 24 or 48 hours... although the other guys won't be very happy to see their server slow down this much :-/ i dunno.
i've always wanted to get more into bittorrent though, and i guess this is a good opportunity to do so. i guess i should start by downloading it, right? ;)
another thing i'll look into is a download queue or something like it. where i can limit it to only 3 people at a time downloading each ISO. anyone familiar with implementing this?
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I have a perfect example...
Everyday it only works half the time, sorry
Don't limit people on using it...
the more users the better! :)
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
I have a perfect example...
Everyday it only works half the time, sorry
Don't limit people on using it...
the more users the better! :)
umm actually it's always up, except when one of us takes it down for maintenance, or testing, or doing something with it for ourselves.
neeext?
EDIT: "the more users the better"... hmm you're not familiar with the term "bandwidth", are you? "the more users the better" does not apply to a web-server :lol:
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:lol:
It's always up!
:lol:
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"i'm thinking of just biting the bullet and opening the ISOs again, if only for another 24 or 48 hours... although the other guys won't be very happy to see their server slow down this much :-/ i dunno. "
:D
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and you don't believe me. :blah:. how to convince you that the only times swooh goes down is when one of us takes it down. :/
remember: swooh's primary purpose is to. actually. nevermind, you don't need to know. point is it's a server. a server being something you don't have. and if you did. try serving out 160 GB+ a week just on the webserver... try paying for that kind of bandwidth. then start criticizing us.
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oh so the authication needed on my download manager is because you closed the iso dir to downloaders?
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well, i closed the ISOs to downloads. but i'm considering putting them up again :(
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:lol:
Perhaps it's my SmartFTP software?
Who knows, but it almost is never up when I need it, coincedence or not...
But it's one of the best thing we have right now, but a Torrent would be more reliable... IMHO
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and for the record cagle: it's a fact. swooh has never crashed. it's an extremely stable computer running on an extremely stable operating system. it's more than geared to serve thousands of people... it's the connection that screws it over sometimes. the ISP's going out of business (they've already announced that), and so the times that we don't take it offline (i can only assume those are the times that it's not up that you're referring to) occasionally the ISP will go offline for a period, or will generally screw around with swooh's link.
EDIT: SmartFTP, eh? yeah that's what i'm using at the moment. one thing that you may need to try doing is setting your connection timeout a little longer. to establish the initial connection usually takes a while because we had problems with the welcome banner, so we disabled it, so FTP client's still wait for the welcome message... but eventually the server sends a timeout, and carries on with its commucation with your client. once you get past that initial stage, you should be good to go. i use swooh a lot more often than you do, i can assure you, and it's rare that i can't access it through FTP.
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Stealth, I'm actually at work right now, but as soon as you give the go ahead (hopefully you will) I'm sprinting back to my apartment to resume the download. *fingers crossed*
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Good, but we still need the download to be running at all times.
I'm sure it's good when the connection doesn't screw it over, it's just it happens way too often, would you agree?
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either way, as you said... until you can come up with a server (and more importantly : A CONNECTION) that can serve 60 ISOs at a given time at a download speed of faster than 10 KB/sec (which is what people were getting)... then yes, this is what we're stuck with. a server that can only upstream at 600 kb/sec, and that can only serve out 32 GB an hour.
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me and david have the same idea lol
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yes it does happen way too often. although recently it hasn't been as bad. and as i said, it's because its ISP is going out of business. you can't expect much from them. but until we can all pool together to buy a T3 line, it's what it's got, and it's what it's going to stay at.
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OK they're open. start downloading quick, before the other swooh staff get pissed.
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Bit torrent (still not sure if it requires swooh...)
People can download it fast or slow reardless of there connection speed, IIRC
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Bit torrent (still not sure if it requires swooh...)
People can download it fast or slow reardless of there connection speed, IIRC
then GO FOR IT. no one's stopping you. use some initiative, and do something about it. make your isos available or however the hell bittorrent does it.
EDIT: and remember. bittorrent's only good if you've got a lot of people with the same file. and there's not going to be many people with the FS2 ISOs out there :/
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Stealth, you're my hero.
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tell me that only when you've got the ISOs completely downloaded :D :p
better hurry up now, before dozens of people start downloading them too
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I've been trying, but it keeps saying action cancelled... :doubt:
No, I'm pretty sure that it doesn't work that way, Stealth.
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
I've been trying, but it keeps saying action cancelled... :doubt:
No, I'm pretty sure that it doesn't work that way, Stealth.
lol it doesn't work that way?
i'm may be new to bittorrent, but i understand its concept, and you can only download a file from someone that has it. and as i said, not many people have the FS2 ISO sitting there ready to be shared......... so yes, it does work that way. if you're sitting griping about it, then why not make your ISOs available.......
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hey david, does your IP address end in 209?
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Your saying that if I wanted to download a movie, I need the movie to upload it?
No it doesn't work that way...
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Your saying that if I wanted to download a movie, I need the movie to upload it?
No it doesn't work that way...
no i'm saying if you wanted to download the movie, someone else somewhere on bittorrent would have to have it, because you can't just magically download a file from nowhere. someone somewhere out there has to have it for you to download from them
and i'm pretty sure since not many (if any) people have their FS2 ISOs on bittorrent, you'd not be able to download it.
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Originally posted by Stealth
no i'm saying if you wanted to download the movie, someone else somewhere on bittorrent would have to have it, because you can't just magically download a file from nowhere. someone somewhere out there has to have it for you to download from them
Ok why?
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Problem: more customers require more bandwidth
(http://f.scarywater.net/bram/central.png)
The BitTorrent Solution: customers help distribute content
(http://f.scarywater.net/bram/torrent.png)
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Ok why?
LOLOLOL are you kidding me?
:wtf:
because you can't download a file that no one, and no server, has... when you DOWNLOAD a file, someone, or something's got to UPLOAD it to you. therefore you can't download a file, if there's no one to upload it
understand?
Bittorrent doesn't work on files hosted on a central server, or a few central servers, it works by people downloading files from numerous people around the world. likewise, you're sharing your files with people around the world, who are downloading from you. so as i said, if no one in the world has the FS2 ISO on bittorrent, then how are you going to get it?
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Someone uploads it and then it's there, you download it and upload it for the next person...
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what was the point of posting those two pictures? we're not discussing bandwidth... we both agree that we need a way of getting the ISOs at a higher bandwidth. what we're discussing is how anyone's going to get them off Bittorrent (which you keep mentioning), if no one has them.
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Someone uploads it and then it's there, you download it and upload it for the next person...
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!
SOMEONE UPLOADS IT!!!!!
and has anyone uploaded it?!? NOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So WTF are arguing?
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and by the way. that's not how bittorrent works. no one "uploads it and then it's there". the file remains on their computer, not on some server. they don't upload anything. the person who wants the file downloads it directly from their computer. there's no middle-man.
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Stealth, it may, but I'm back at work so I can't check. What's up?
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oh i see a person downloading the ISO, so i was wondering if it was you :)
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
So WTF are arguing?
because first you started talking about how we should use bittorrent for the ISOs, so i said go ahead. you start.
then your logic of how bittorrent works was flawed, so you were getting confused.
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Ahhh... that's what the hell your talking about... DO you not have faith that absolutely no one will download it?
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haha, okay. that's probably me. i should be finishing up soon.
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Ahhh... that's what the hell your talking about... DO you not have faith that absolutely no one will download it?
i swear... you're killing me man. you're killing me.
1) no, i never said that. i said that for FS2's ISOs to get on bittorrent in the FIRST place someone has to take the initiative (see about two pages ago, when you first started questioning me, and the beginning of our argument)
2) you need to review how bittorrent works. there's no central server that has all the files that you download off. "customers" don't "help distribute content"... they're the ONLY things distributing content. in the bittorrent network there's no central server that has a copy of all the files... there's a tracker, which coordinates connections between bittorrent clients, but has no knowledge of the content of files at all.
therefore, in order for a file to exist on a bittorrent network, at least one person has to have that file...
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Originally posted by David_Leench
haha, okay. that's probably me. i should be finishing up soon.
naaa take your time :) i was just wondering if it was, because there's three people downloading an ISO at the moment, but your IP was the first to connect to one, so i figured it was you ;) what kind of download rate are you getting by the way (just curious). i'll apologize in advance :p
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We already went over this...
You stated that bittorrent's only good if you've got a lot of people with the same file. and there's not going to be many people with the FS2 ISOs out there :/... in a tone that no one would keep the torrent going... Which I was saying that I would keep mine open and there would be people from here downloading it
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it wasn't too shabby when i left actually. fluctuating between 20-50kb/sec with a download accelerator.
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i never said no one would keep the torrent going, but it's true that it's a lot more efficient when there's more than one person with the file, otherwise it'll take days before over 5 people have the file. nonetheless, remember i told you to take the initiative, and get going with it. if you're worried about it, put them on bittorrent. get some torrents going ;)
AAANYWAY, all ISOs are open now. let's see how long it takes before swooh's bandwidth gets eaten alive again. enough talk about bittorrent. remember, i've been around p2ps since i was ten, which was 9 years ago. i'm highly familiar with how they work. but mass distribution of the FS2 isos probably isn't even legal, and if it is, it's a project that we have to undertake as a team, not just one person with the ISOs. if we go into the mass distribution over p2ps, it doesn't have to be done overnight, there's no hurry.
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Hello all,
[been lurking for a while, this .iso business prompted me to register...]
I've got the three iso's - you're The Man, Stealth, for putting them up in the first place - but the first has some corrupted files in it. Not your iso, judging by peoples' happy experiences of installing it, so must be mine.
Any chance someone could mail me SETUP.INS off CD1? its only 60k, but its the instructions for the installshield, so its buggered without it. It would certainly stop me from having to re-download it, something I'd rather (and you'd rather) i didnt do :)
In terms of limiting users, can you install proFTP or somesuch, and just limit the download queue like Fractux's ftp site for the VP files?
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www.swooh.com/lorenzo/hlphosted/setup.rar
there you go :)
it's unlikely that only one file would be corrupted though, so brace yourself for more :-/
also, i'm thinking about that. it's possible to limit download queues, but i just didn't think i'd have to :p
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IF you do though, what happens if a poor 56ker comes along with a download manager like getright that opens multiple connections? I'd say limit it by speed... Each person is capped at 10 or 20kbs, because that way the 56k people will be well under the speed even with 4 connections, and others all get the same (ish) speeds, as long as there aren't too many connections that would start to lower it beyond 20kbs... So it would be a limit for both speed and traffic...
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I have been a lurker for awhile. I know nothing of code or Freding. I have enjoyed all TBP mods. I just wanted too say I do have the orginal 3 CD's in working order. If anyone wants any original files to check for corruptions let me know. I was under the assumption such things were not needed anymore since the Sourcecode project was in full effect. I could just email any needed files.
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:welcome:
:)
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Thanks stealth; yes indeed, it starts off looking fairly convincing and then crashes out with a "099786400" error.
Ahh yes, 099786400, of course... ;)
Thanks anyway. Perhaps some md5sums would be a good idea?
http://www.md5summer.org/download.html
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well it's worked for the one guy that tried downloading it... (see the first page).
karajorma made some suggestions, and they worked for someone having a similar problem to you. also, check the first page.
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i could open installshield .cabs with Zipscan, but couldn't extract files from data1.cab, so i supposed it was corrupt. Redownloaded it, extracted the iso's under linux, and installed the lot from a directory. Worked a treat... thanks very much for hosting those files!
One odd thing was that iso3 (only) stored the files in 8.3 format, so that tango2_fs2.vp came out as tango2~1.vp, which the installer then didn't recognise. Easily fixed, but strange that it did that - you re-imaged the third iso didnt you? did you do it differently from the others?
Now i'm just finding out how many of the SCP additions I can run with my voodoo3 cel600 system without grinding to a halt...
[quite a lot, it seems :)]
Is Silent threat an add-on, or standalone extra?
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add-on to FS1. A very, very crappy one at that.
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Originally posted by sh0dan
One odd thing was that iso3 (only) stored the files in 8.3 format, so that tango2_fs2.vp came out as tango2~1.vp, which the installer then didn't recognise. Easily fixed, but strange that it did that - you re-imaged the third iso didnt you? did you do it differently from the others?
no, i didn't. i realized my one CD was corrupt, so i took another copy of FS2 that i own, and made an ISO copy using the same program, method, etc. anyone else had a problem with that?
And yes, as kasperl said, Silent Threat is for FS1. i just uploaded it because a few people showed interest in it.
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Can anyone explain what "tangoA.vp" and "tangoB.vp" are for?? When opened with VPView, i get a data text file, wich can´t be opened (due to size, maybe?).
Had to reinstall FS2, and now my CD3 is acting up. Says i can´t read one of the .vp´s!! Had to install without the briefing anims to work... :hopping:
I guess i better make a new set of copies for backup. :rolleyes:
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They are on the ISOs?
If you're using the HotU version you'll also have two files called tangoA_fs2.vp and tangoB_fs2.vp
AFAIK both are from the HotU build and are dummy files
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Yes, they are. I d/l the .iso´s and burned them onto CDs. Too bad i deleted the images after...
Well, then i suppose i was wrong about what version i have of FS2. I always thought he Hotu version came only with the low-res graphics, and since i have them i thought i had the retail version.
I always play in 1024x 768, wich i thought the Hotu version couldn´t do...
Anyway, the problem is in the tango2_fs.vp, and i got the exact same error message posted in the first page of the thread. Strange thing is, it always worked until now! The only thing i have diferent since the last time i had it working, was that i enabled S-ATA support in my Bios settings, to allow me to run the S-ATA HDD i just bought. But i can´t see how that would screw up the install... unless it has something to do with my DVD drives, that have been acting up ever since. They fail to get detected by the system if i keep an image mounted on Daemon Tools.
Oh well...
:doubt:
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i don't know what to tell you man. the ISOs worked for other people that downloaded them. tell me if you find a problem for sure, and i'll upload a correct(ed) ISO i guess. i too always thought tangoA and tangoB were HOTU's issues... i guarantee you i have no idea how they found their way onto the ISOs because i never have used HOTU, and probably never will use it for anything Freespace related.
did anyone try downloading all three ISOs and have NO problems with them? anyone download them and have partial problems, but get it to work anyway? and if so, could you post what you did to fix these problems.
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My iso.s are diferent. I got them from eDonkey, about a year ago. It´s not the one´s you posted.
I think i got it wrong when Karajorma asked me if they were in the iso´s. He probably was asking if it was in the iso´s posted here, and i answered yes, when i should have pointred out wich iso´s i have and where i got them from. Sorry.
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oooh ok. no problem, no need to apologize :)
you just had me worried for a second :p
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Thank you very very very much, my CD1 has been broken for about 2 years now and I can finally play FS2 again!!! Thank you Thank you!!!
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Wait... they're still up?
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Yes, they are still up. :)
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oh... I'll have to grab them friday night then...
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Ok , i downloaded all three iso`s , and installed fs2 using deamon tools, but game doesn`t start . Game folder size is 1.289 MB , and there are no *.mve files. I pushed fs2.exe or freespace2.exe and nothing happend.Where is the problem ?
P.S Sorry for my english , but i`m from Poland , And thanks to Stealth for Iso`s
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I have been trying to dl iso3 for a couple of days now. Everytime it always just stops somewhere at the beginning and just sits there.
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I'm having trouble downloading the ISO's... but once I do so I'll seed a torrent and post the link in this thread since there seemed to be some interest in distributing this with bittorrent from a while back...
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If anyone is interested, I found FS2 on a bittorent at The Pirate Bay site. Just search for freespace.
Torrent file list:
Freespace 2 Readme.txt 0.16 KB
Freespace2_1 - prototype24.bin 697.90 MB
Freespace2_1 - prototype24.cue 0.32 KB
Freespace2_2 - prototype24.bin 782.45 MB
Freespace2_2 - prototype24.cue 0.32 KB
Freespace2_3 - prototype24.bin 772.16 MB
Freespace2_3 - prototype24.cue 0.32 KB
fs21x-12.exe 1.05 MB
fs2cd120.EXE 195.01 KB
fs2cd120.zip 98.93 KB
Does anyone know if these disks are good working copies?
I started downloading but I'm only on dialup so going very slow!
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I wouldn´t post that here, if i were you...
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Swamp_Thing, are you referring to the website or the list of files?
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The website. While we don't mind people linking to dodgy copies of FS2 linking to sites with dodgy copies of newer stuff is frowned upon.
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OK, I get it. Is it still ok to name the website (without the link)? Or would it be better to post the link directly to the fs2 page? Sorry, I'm kinda new to posting in forums and stuff.
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The site is down, any other links?