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Offline BlackDove

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There's not a lot going on here currently anyway.

I blame Raven.

Seriously though, I'm hoping you'll see some news soon.

On another note, I do wonder what Kazan has been doing ever since he got married.

 

Offline Goober5000

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Use your imagination?

Kazan has actually posted on the forum in the past week.

 

Offline General Battuta

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I still dream about BWO on a nightly basis, but rather than give in to fanboy despair I've elected to believe that Raven is gradually moving those last HTL assets towards completion.

 

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*sings* Get outta my dreams!  And into my RAM!

 

Offline High Max

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« Last Edit: May 25, 2010, 11:10:01 pm by High Max »
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Offline General Battuta

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I still dream about BWO on a nightly basis, but rather than give in to fanboy despair I've elected to believe that Raven is gradually moving those last HTL assets towards completion.

Really? I never even think about BWO anymore. Maybe once in a great while, but not much at all. That's what happens when projects take forever to be released (fail to deliver) and fans get bored and move on. If anything, I think more about campaigns that are actually released in the missions and campaign sub-forum, like ASW, FoW, and Storm Front. Also BP.

You're silly.

 

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« Last Edit: May 25, 2010, 11:10:13 pm by High Max »
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Offline General Battuta

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BWO is essentially done. They're waiting on high-poly ship models to be complete.

 

Offline Fury

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Which if you ask me, is foolish. If you can provide higher quality assets as simple drop-in replacements that require no alterations to missions, then you should release the campaign with lower quality assets and release higher quality ones in an update later.

 

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« Last Edit: May 25, 2010, 11:10:54 pm by High Max »
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Offline General Battuta

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Foolish or not, it's not our job to dictate BWO development policy.

 

Offline Fury

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No it is not, but public opinion should have some weight as long as it is reasonable.

 

Offline Mongoose

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I think there is another way of looking at things, though.  As the old adage goes, "You only get one chance to make a first impression."  While it's true that BWO could just about release today with the assets they have, leaving features like high-poly models out of the initial release will mean that they don't get to be part of everyone's first-time experience.  You can't force yourself to forget everything and repeat your first playthrough, and I can appreciate the BWO team's desire to have every single aspect of that experience be as high-quality as it possibly can.

 

Offline Raven2001

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I think there is another way of looking at things, though.  As the old adage goes, "You only get one chance to make a first impression."  While it's true that BWO could just about release today with the assets they have, leaving features like high-poly models out of the initial release will mean that they don't get to be part of everyone's first-time experience.  You can't force yourself to forget everything and repeat your first playthrough, and I can appreciate the BWO team's desire to have every single aspect of that experience be as high-quality as it possibly can.

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« Last Edit: May 25, 2010, 11:11:06 pm by High Max »
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This very old "get everything done, then release" idea has been the basic design philosophy of BlackWater for god knows how long. It's not going to change.

 

Offline General Battuta

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This very old "get everything done, then release" idea has been the basic design philosophy of BlackWater for god knows how long. It's not going to change.

Quite.

Let's just trust them to get it done.

 

Offline Raven2001

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But it's unrealistic. You can never keep up with the latest, especially when you have lives that keep you busy. Also, whether it is the greatest is nothing but a perception. Trying to have the greatest in every area will only lead to feature creep and an endless cycle of trying to keep up with the latest graphics, then by the time you do so, something better comes along, then you impliment that, but then something better has once again come along, over and over again.

You misunderstand. We aren't feature creeping. The features we are taking advantage from are several years old already (HTL). For instance, certain ships have been modeled years ago, already in the HTL era of things. They definetly aren't as good technically as the newer ones, but they are locked.
Its not like we are watching for features and going "omgz we gotta haf dat!".

However, reason its taking so long is because lately (eg. for 2 years +/-), I'm the only one taking care of the models and UV's, and textures. However, I'm bogged down in a job that requires more than 8 daily hours many times+"house keeping" duties, and so on. That doesn't leave many *monthly* hours to work as you understand.

We have said it in the past, and I'll say it again: we need good modelers\UVe'rs and texturers. We havent made a formal request for these due to some organizational issues, but the sooner we hear some interest from people in helping out, the sooner things get done.
You can take a look at the 4 modelers  interview to get an idea of the level of work we seek. And even if you can't be up to that, I can say surely that someone who could take care of the LOD's would definetly be very helpfull as well (and doesn't need to be as good, technically)

Even if you can't do it yourself, spread the word to your friends :P

I can't convert, but Blowfish has been taking care of that when needed so far.
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Release what you want, when you want. Simple :yes:



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Offline General Battuta

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I'll make a concerted effort to point new modelers your way.