Hard Light Productions Forums

General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Carl on October 06, 2001, 06:41:00 pm

Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Carl on October 06, 2001, 06:41:00 pm
imagine that, on october 7, 2001, ross 128 goes nova or supernova. what then? would  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) just make a patch that changes all the mentioning of ross128 to some other system? you'd have to redo half the game! what do you think?
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Shrike on October 06, 2001, 07:00:00 pm
Nope.  Why bother?
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Eishtmo on October 06, 2001, 08:20:00 pm
Uh, Ross 128 isn't going to go supernova.

Ever.

There are a few that could, one of them being quite close to home.  Too close.

------------------
Visit Warpstorm. ("http://www.warpstorm.com")  Do it now.

---------

I know there is a method, but all I see is madness.
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Thorn on October 06, 2001, 08:24:00 pm
Yeah, Vega wont anytime soon either..
Maybe once all that gas condenses into a full star....

------------------
Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard kids! Be evil!
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: penguin on October 06, 2001, 11:15:00 pm
Even if Ross 128 went supernova tomorrow, we wouldn't find out until 2016 anyhow (unless we develop inter-system drives before then)

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Carl on October 07, 2001, 01:21:00 am
i was just using ross 128 as an example. how about i try this again:

imagine that, on october 7, 2001, (insert FS star system that could go nova or supernova here) goes nova or supernova. what then? would  just make a patch that changes all the mentioning of (insert FS star system that could go nova or supernova here) to some other system? you'd have to redo (insert amount of the game that would have to be re-done) of the game! what do you think?
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Setekh on October 07, 2001, 02:08:00 am
Yeah, people probably wouldn't bother. But it's an interesting idea. I think it would be somewhat more important if a local feature that was referenced to in FS was destroyed - a star is kind of remote. But I don't think there are many (if any at all) local features ref'd to in FS...
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Nico on October 07, 2001, 05:24:00 am
why? For what I know, New York never turned into a jail before 1997, and when they did Los Angeles 2013 (done in 98 I think), NY is still considered a jail :þ
Plus Freespace 2 is Science Fiction, and in science fiction there is... fiction! yeah  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
With all the threads about that those days, it's obvious V didn't really care about realism regarding to systems. Capella in FS2 is not a binary, and I just read in  another thread that ikeya might me a comet  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif). Really, do you think they would even care if any systems went boom? No, they would just say: well, in the FS2 universe, it didn't. Just like Hitler died before begining WW2 in Red ALert.
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: penguin on October 07, 2001, 02:48:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by venom2506:
why? For what I know, New York never turned into a jail before 1997

Don't forget, in "Escape From New York," Snake Pliskin lands his glider on top of the WTC...

One of the fun things about any kind of SF is to look at it a few years later and see what did or didn't happen (esp. the ones w/ "big" years in the title: 2001, 1984, and don't forget "Space: 1999")  The US/Soviet tension was mentioned in 2001 as well.  Anything that attempts to predict the future starts being wrong almost the day it's published.
If any of the star systems in FS went supernova, I doubt there'd be any revisionism, but I wouldn't count on that system being featured in any newly-created missions...
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: karajorma on October 07, 2001, 06:02:00 pm
None of the stars in freespace are likely to go nova or supernova any time soon so I wouldn`t worry about it.
 A more likely one perhaps would be "What if an alien species make contact from one of the systems mentioned"
  Rather strangely though the best candidate for that (Tau Ceti) isn`t mentioned in Freespace
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Dark_4ce on October 07, 2001, 06:09:00 pm
If a star ever went nova, blame the shivans.

------------------
Badges?! We don't need no stinking badges!!!
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Setekh on October 08, 2001, 02:52:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by karajorma:
Rather strangely though the best candidate for that (Tau Ceti) isn`t mentioned in Freespace

The best candidate? How so? Anyway, it wasn't mentioned, but it's sure there on the map.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: karajorma on October 08, 2001, 03:43:00 am
Yellow G-type star. 10 Light years away from earth. About the right age to have let life evolve.
 Tau ceti is on the map? Where? I`ve got about 3 node maps and I didn`t see Tau ceti on any of them? I need to know if it is cause I put part of my campaign there as an uncharted system.
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Nico on October 08, 2001, 05:54:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by karajorma:
Yellow G-type star. 10 Light years away from earth. About the right age to have let life evolve.
 Tau ceti is on the map? Where? I`ve got about 3 node maps and I didn`t see Tau ceti on any of them? I need to know if it is cause I put part of my campaign there as an uncharted system.

Nope, same here, it's not on the map, and I use it too  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Unidan on October 09, 2001, 03:08:00 pm
1 word, BARBEQUE! SSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Kitsune on October 09, 2001, 04:15:00 pm
About the same thing that happened a long while back when our latest stellar neighbor went supernova.  
The earth would be engulfed in light for a few days, making everyone get creeped out, then it would pass.

Why everyone thinks we'd be in any trouble is beyond me.
The only star we have to worry about is the one parked two planets in front of us.  And that isn't going to be an issue for a few billion years or so.

------------------
~Space Kitsuné
6-tailed modder.
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Sandwich on October 09, 2001, 06:31:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Carl:
i was just using ross 128 as an example. how about i try this again:

imagine that, on october 7, 2001, (insert FS star system that could go nova or supernova here) goes nova or supernova. what then? would  just make a patch that changes all the mentioning of (insert FS star system that could go nova or supernova here) to some other system? you'd have to redo (insert amount of the game that would have to be re-done) of the game! what do you think?

Ok, I'm amazed. How did you all completely miss what Carl's getting at?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)

He's referring to the swarm of game developers who are modifying existing and future games to remove or "update" WTC references...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)



------------------
America, stand assured that Israel truly understands what you are going through.

"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: karajorma on October 09, 2001, 07:01:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Kitsune:
About the same thing that happened a long while back when our latest stellar neighbor went supernova.  
The earth would be engulfed in light for a few days, making everyone get creeped out, then it would pass.

Why everyone thinks we'd be in any trouble is beyond me.
The only star we have to worry about is the one parked two planets in front of us.  And that isn't going to be an issue for a few billion years or so.


Not true. A lot of scientists believe that a supernova can (and has) had serious effects on Earth.
 What's more the one from the cappella explosion would start reaching nearby stars 5-40 years later.
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 11, 2001, 04:43:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by sandwich:
Ok, I'm amazed. How did you all completely miss what Carl's getting at?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)

He's referring to the swarm of game developers who are modifying existing and future games to remove or "update" WTC references...   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)



Future games I can understand, but I think modifying existing ones is a bit unneccessary.
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: phreak on October 11, 2001, 07:38:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by karajorma:
Rather strangely though the best candidate for that (Tau Ceti) isn`t mentioned in Freespace


Theories about that Tau Ceti was renamed Vasuda when first contact was made.
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Thorn on October 11, 2001, 02:35:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by PhReAk:

Theories about that Tau Ceti was renamed Vasuda when first contact was made.

I think someone mentioned that somewhere..
but I cant think of where...
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Shrike on October 11, 2001, 03:13:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by sandwich:
Ok, I'm amazed. How did you all completely miss what Carl's getting at?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)

He's referring to the swarm of game developers who are modifying existing and future games to remove or "update" WTC references...   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)

I certainly didn't miss it.  But as I said already, what's the point?  FS2 isn't supported any longer.
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Sandwich on October 11, 2001, 06:37:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by Shrike:
I certainly didn't miss it.  But as I said already, what's the point?  FS2 isn't supported any longer.

Bah! In FS2 it's beside the point. After, Earth isn't cut off fromt he rest of the universe in Real Life™, now is it? (Actually, now that I think about it, it could be, and we'd never kow the difference, would we?)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)



------------------
America, stand assured that Israel truly understands what you are going through.

"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://michael.randelman.com"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Setekh on October 11, 2001, 10:52:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by venom2506:
Nope, same here, it's not on the map, and I use it too   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Oh... oops  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Must've been looking at RL™ maps too much...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: what if a system in Freespace goes supernova in the near future?
Post by: Nico on October 12, 2001, 04:28:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by sandwich:
Bah! In FS2 it's beside the point. After, Earth isn't cut off fromt he rest of the universe in Real Life™, now is it? (Actually, now that I think about it, it could be, and we'd never kow the difference, would we?)   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

or, should I say, maybe it WILL be  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)