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Title: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: GT-Keravnos on July 16, 2009, 05:19:57 am
http://www.minerwars.com/Index.aspx

This is shaping up to be one of my favorite games for this year. It also bring back great memories of the game that started it all. Descent.
(For those of you who don't remember the name "Freespace" was used to describe the first title in the series but also to differentiate from it. "Descent Freespace" it was called, to let the buyer know that it was from the team which made "Descent" but it was now on Freespace, rather than down in the tunnels where Descent was played first and foremost.

I think this game encapsulates the best things that Descent was all about. Not to mention that it looks absolutely great. I just found about this today and had to post this here, because of all people, you and me who have played descent will understand how cool this game is.

Anyone else up for some Asteroid ore mining and shooting ? (forgot the shooting part- heh)
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Black Wolf on July 16, 2009, 06:29:13 am
This is shaping up to be one of my favorite games for this year. It also bring back great memories of the game that started it all. Descent.
(For those of you who don't remember the name "Freespace" was used to describe the first title in the series but also to differentiate from it. "Descent Freespace" it was called, to let the buyer know that it was from the team which made "Descent" but it was now on Freespace, rather than down in the tunnels where Descent was played first and foremost.

[nitpick]That's not strctly true. Those were side benefits. The only reason it was called Descent Freespace was because there was a naming rights conflict with "Freespace", and the term freespace was the original name for Subspace. Case in point, it was called "Conflict: Freespace" in much of Europe.[/nitpick]

Carry on ;)
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Aardwolf on July 16, 2009, 06:57:56 am
Title is "Miner Wars", not "Mine Wars". Also, it looks awesome.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Mongoose on July 16, 2009, 01:35:05 pm
Gonna shunt this to Gaming, since it isn't strictly related to FS much at all.  Still awesome, though.  It's about damn time someone else took a crack at 6DOF; lord knows that those of us in the Descent community have been hard-starved for other members of the genre.

(It's always mining, isn't it? :p)
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Sushi on July 16, 2009, 01:46:22 pm
The trick is making 6DOF accessible to people without joysticks. If you want it to be successful these days, it needs to easily playable with either a console controller or mouse+KB.

It looks interesting, but I'll refrain from getting too excited until there's at least a demo.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Galemp on July 16, 2009, 02:20:38 pm
Actually, I find it quite accessible using Mouselook and WASD, with MW up and down to slide vertically and Q and E for banking.

Anyway, this looks like it has potential... but from the first video writing/voice acting it looks like a REALLY BAD localization. They also need to do more with that big spaceship than just paint it red and bake an AO map on it. :doubt:
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Flipside on July 16, 2009, 03:49:45 pm
Oh look, Greenpeace activists in space...

Game looks good, not 100% sold on the story, however.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: CP5670 on July 16, 2009, 03:57:34 pm
This looks quite interesting. I don't really care about the story as long as they get the gameplay right. 6DOF FPSs are practically unheard of these days. I hope that the MMO multiplayer doesn't mean it is pay-per-month though.

I have always played the Descent games with keyboard only (as well as FS2, for that matter). You can certainly do well online with such a setup, as long as you have a decent keyboard that supports enough simultaneous keystrokes.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Sushi on July 16, 2009, 05:13:45 pm
I have always played the Descent games with keyboard only (as well as FS2, for that matter). You can certainly do well online with such a setup, as long as you have a decent keyboard that supports enough simultaneous keystrokes.

Of course you can! But you have to admit, the learning curve is a lot steeper for playing Descent or Freespace with KB+Mouse than it is for playing, say, Counterstrike. Which makes it a tad less marketable.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: GT-Keravnos on July 16, 2009, 06:44:00 pm
OOPS, forgot the "r". If a moderator can take care of that, I would be grateful. Sorry about the mistake.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Pred the Penguin on July 17, 2009, 03:57:39 am
I have always played the Descent games with keyboard only (as well as FS2, for that matter). You can certainly do well online with such a setup, as long as you have a decent keyboard that supports enough simultaneous keystrokes.

Of course you can! But you have to admit, the learning curve is a lot steeper for playing Descent or Freespace with KB+Mouse than it is for playing, say, Counterstrike. Which makes it a tad less marketable.
I disagree....
It takes long to get good, but not too long to learn... at least for me. XD
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Aardwolf on July 26, 2009, 04:51:13 pm
OOPS, forgot the "r". If a moderator can take care of that, I would be grateful. Sorry about the mistake.  :sigh:

You can change it. Just go to the first post and click the modify button.

Also, lol @ "Space Peace Activists" ... but I have this horrible feeling the producers might actually view pacifists that way in real life...
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: mxlm on July 26, 2009, 06:28:37 pm
Also, lol @ "Space Peace Activists" ... but I have this horrible feeling the producers might actually view pacifists that way in real life...

Just for you (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?showtopic=9254&st=620&p=342387&#entry342387). Terry Goodkind makes everything better. For a certain value of better.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Bobboau on July 27, 2009, 03:02:25 am
"peace militants"
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Aardwolf on August 07, 2009, 12:50:17 pm
Lolwut
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Snail on August 07, 2009, 01:05:32 pm
Storyline is ****. Probably will not play.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: kikkernl on May 14, 2010, 02:17:18 pm
I can't wait for this game :yes:. I hope this game will get me hooked just like TESOblivion.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Mongoose on May 14, 2010, 02:55:52 pm
Storyline is ****. Probably will not play.
If you played Descent for the storyline, you were doing it wrong in the first place. :p
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: BloodEagle on May 14, 2010, 03:04:18 pm
I can't wait for this game :yes:. I hope this game will get me hooked just like TESOblivion.

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Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: BlueFlames on May 14, 2010, 11:13:47 pm
When I first heard of this game, I kind of got a vaporware vibe.  It was just a hunch, so weak at the time that I'd have been unsurprised, had it been disproven, but the more Miner Wars gets advertised by forum post, the stronger that vibe becomes.  It doesn't help that the most recent trailer shows no noticeable progress from the first trailer.

Oh well....  This wouldn't be the first time a company has sustained itself for years on venture capital alone.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Darghan on May 17, 2010, 03:52:23 pm
Hi guys,

I am a huge fan on Freespace and expecially of the OSP. Browsing through internet I saw that one of our fans has posted some information here on our game. I am the CEO of the company and let me clarifly on a few things here :).

First off story:

Totally reworked. No space peace militants nothing like that. All that was back in the times when the game was well Indie. We have a good storyline now presented in a very dramatic manner. Also the single-player storyline is supposed to be a prequel to what is going to be happening in the MMO part of the game.

Venture capital:

Well mate you know that would really make our life so much easier you cant even know :) We are a self funded group that is proud of the work and development we put into the game. Also we have a huge progress on the game but unfortunately its nothing you can show in the trailer - multiplayer code, sector travelling, save points, new light rendering, better voxel rendering, graphical tuning options, logging in and out to the server, username and clan administration and I could go on and on :). We are well on our way to get a publisher though and if things work right we will be on this years E3.

Dan Wentz is on the team

Yes guys the man who did all your Freespace music and some levels is here with us working fulltime. Dan became the Head of Audio department at Keen prior to leaving Volition (Parallax)

VapourWare

Strictly NO. Its our way of living and we have invested a lot of our time and funds into the project we need to publish period.

Joystick support

Yes and even double stick support due to the strafing present in the game.

Theres a lot more information at our website www.minerwars.com

Also did you guys know we released a non-interactive demo of the game? Just to test the machines out there. http://www.minerwars.com/Downloads.aspx

Lately I have also released a a new developers diary: http://www.minerwars.com/News.aspx#Develdiaryno1

Stay tuned guys. We really need the support of dedicated groups such as yourselves :)

Tomas "Darghan" Psenicka

Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Topgun on May 17, 2010, 04:10:47 pm
Do you have to subscribe to the MMO part of the game to play the single player? im not into MMO's much, not if I have to pay monthly.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Darghan on May 17, 2010, 04:21:16 pm
No pesky monthly payments mate :)
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: SpardaSon21 on May 17, 2010, 04:58:28 pm
If you guys need a publisher you should talk with Stardock once your game gets a bit more concrete.  Their CEO, Brad Wardell, is a huge fan of indie developers and Impulse happens to be a great distribution platform.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Topgun on May 17, 2010, 05:34:13 pm
No pesky monthly payments mate :)
that's great! I am now twice as interested.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Darghan on May 17, 2010, 06:17:25 pm
yep were in touch with Stardock :) thx for the tip though
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Sushi on May 17, 2010, 07:09:06 pm
Always cool when people take the time to talk about their game on foreign territory. :) I look forward to seeing what comes out of it.

P.S. If you don't already, please include some sort of "virtual joystick" implementation like you get in Freelancer or Allegiance.  :yes:
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Klaustrophobia on May 18, 2010, 12:48:18 pm
You have my attention.  Looking forward to this  :yes:
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Unknown Target on May 19, 2010, 02:12:57 am
Saw this before, game looks cool but the story/acting/everything besides the graphics and a bit of the gameplay points towards a short lived budget tital.
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Darghan on May 19, 2010, 08:09:30 pm
gotya there mate. We noticed those too so we started to change things. I think you will be glad :)
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Unknown Target on May 19, 2010, 09:07:40 pm
Cool. I posted that without seeing that you had replied. Nice to hear that you're open to changing stuff. Good luck :)
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Aardwolf on May 22, 2010, 02:34:22 pm
Dan Wentz, you say?  :yes:
Title: Re: Mine Wars... did someone say Descent 4?...
Post by: Sushi on November 30, 2010, 11:48:51 am
Looks like the MMO and "standard" parts are going to be separate after all:
http://www.minerwars.com/ForumTopic.aspx?id=1382

This is, IMHO, great news, because I didn't give a hoot about the MMO aspect and was worried that it would ruin the rest of the game.