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Title: Radar Icons-dots only
Post by: core1401 on April 19, 2017, 06:46:06 am
every mod rader is only with dots,what did i do worng?
Title: Re: Radar Icons-dots only
Post by: Commander Zane on April 19, 2017, 07:10:59 am
Depending on the mod, custom assets tend to not have any associated icons so they default to a dot. Which mods are they?
Title: Re: Radar Icons-dots only
Post by: core1401 on April 19, 2017, 07:22:17 am
asw act 1 and 2 ,blue planet,fs port 3.5
Title: Re: Radar Icons-dots only
Post by: Commander Zane on April 19, 2017, 08:04:02 am
If I'm not mistaken, those don't have their own table for ship icons. They'd need something like MV_RadarIcons.vp which contains radar-shp.tbm that you can get for MediaVPs 2014.

That table would then need to be filled with entries such as this for each ship being used:
Code: [Select]
$Name:         GTF Ulysses
  +nocreate
$Radar Image 2D:    radar-fighter
Title: Re: Radar Icons-dots only
Post by: core1401 on April 19, 2017, 08:38:52 am
to post a log?
Title: Re: Radar Icons-dots only
Post by: Commander Zane on April 19, 2017, 09:06:59 am
That shouldn't be necessary. It isn't a matter of something being done wrong that prevents it from loading, but that the mods don't have anything to be told to load.

For example, UEF ships in Blue Planet are shown on the radar as dots, but most GTVA ships have icons. It's loading that table from MV_RadarIcons.vp in the MediaVPs 2014 folder. Let's say it's overwritten by adding a new radar-shp.tbm to Blue Planet's Data/Tables folder.

(http://i.imgur.com/H9OD09g.png)

Those two Sathanas icons are actually Narayanas, because I made the table telling it to do this:
Code: [Select]
#Ship Classes

;;UEF

$Name:         UEFg Narayana
  +nocreate
$Radar Image 2D:    radar-sathanas

#End

With a proper list containing the rest of the species references and ship classes you'd then eventually have radar icons for all ships.
Title: Re: Radar Icons-dots only
Post by: Mito [PL] on April 19, 2017, 12:46:35 pm
Regarding Blue Planet, I am pretty sure there IS a radar icons pack for Blue Planet. My BP installation is pretty messy, but from somewhere I have  "AAA BP Complete 2015 2D SuperRadarIcons" and "bp2-radaricons" vp archives.

I don't think ASW has any radar icon packs.

I also think that FSPort 3.5 should have working radar icons - I don't remember whether is it in FSPort by default or via MediaVPs2014 compatibility patch though...
Title: Re: Radar Icons-dots only
Post by: Commander Zane on April 19, 2017, 01:12:54 pm
You're right about the bp2-radaricons.vp, I've forgotten about that. My BP install was done through the installer, and while I did see an icons table, I believe it was the kind used for briefing maps. There wasn't anything I could immediately recognize as being radar icons.
Title: Re: Radar Icons-dots only
Post by: Novachen on April 19, 2017, 07:53:25 pm
ASW has an own radar-icon pack aswell you have to download.

But afaik it is not included in the FSOInstaller.
Title: Re: Radar Icons-dots only
Post by: FrikgFeek on April 28, 2017, 05:45:57 am
There have been some modpack changes since the original release of BP2 so those radaricons might not work perfectly. I've tabled my own set with a Karuna icon for the frigates made by myself and a fortress bomber icon for the Gorgon, Nephilim, and Seraphim made by Caiaphas if I recall correctly.
If you're still having problems I can upload those somewhere and give you a link.

I also played with radar image sizes and 3D radar 'blip' sizes to get the icons to scale up according to ship size. So a frigate icon is roughly ~2.5 times larger than a fighter icon so they stand out more and don't get lost when you set radar to infinity in a big mission.

Here's an example of what it looks like.
(http://i.imgur.com/rDIVS1c.png)