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Offline Axem

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Where did you go wiki sidebar?
Sidebar? Hello?



Where did you go...?



Oh silly sidebar. Go home, you are drunk!

(Using latest Chrome btw)

 

Offline niffiwan

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
Firefox 21.0 still thinks he's here... tricksssie sidebar!
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Offline Axem

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
Everyone else I've talked to does not have this problem (wiki must hate me). I've cleared cache, forced refreshed... all that's left is sacrificing some goats, but the goat store is closed for the night. :(

 

Offline swashmebuckle

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
Messed up for me too but no goats here either sorry.

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
My guess is Chrome hates you. Maybe you should hate it back.
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?


Edit: on a serious note, yes, the same thing happens here with the latest Chrome. Works fine with FF and Opera.
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23:40 < achillion > wait no
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Offline Kopachris

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
I can confirm this issue exists.

It looks like the problem might be that Chrome has div#column-one inherit width:100% from div#global-wrapper.

Using Chrome version 26.0.1410.64 m on Windows 7 64-bit, I do not experience any of the issues described by Angrogeos Exeunt, except the moved wiki sidebar thing.
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Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
I'm having the same issue and created a redundant thread. Chromium build 201348 also has issues with left-clicks and normal page reloads throughout HLP. The only thing it doesn't have issues with is the Quick Reply function. :wtf:
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Offline Fury

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
MediaWiki's template system is pain in the ass and fixing this problem would require updating MediaWiki, templates and merging newer template with HLP edits.

 

Offline Kopachris

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
MediaWiki's template system is pain in the ass and fixing this problem would require updating MediaWiki, templates and merging newer template with HLP edits.

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Offline Fury

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
It's not really that bad. Quickest solution would be just to get the latest MediaWiki css file and merge HLP edits into it. That alone should fix the problem with Webkit browsers, but HLP's MediaWiki should be updated properly really. I suspect it has not been done in quite a while. Probably more than few security fixes in there too.

 

Offline Sandwich

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
Yeah, I encoutnered this issue myself a while back and tried to fix it, to no avail.

MediaWiki's template system is pain in the ass and fixing this problem would require updating MediaWiki, templates and merging newer template with HLP edits.

It's not really that bad. Quickest solution would be just to get the latest MediaWiki css file and merge HLP edits into it. That alone should fix the problem with Webkit browsers, but HLP's MediaWiki should be updated properly really. I suspect it has not been done in quite a while. Probably more than few security fixes in there too.

I think we need to leave MediaWiki for the built-in EE Wiki module. Unfortunately there's no direct import process that I know of.

EDIT: So for now, I'd like to see how well people manage with the EE wiki system. The userguide is here: http://ellislab.com/expressionengine/user-guide/modules/wiki/getting_started.html, but basically it uses standard BBCode. So just head on over to the EE Wiki, register an account if you haven't already (this will also cover the mainpage), and have at it. :) I did some very basic initial styling to the page; basically just changing the foreground & background colors. Much more can be done with it later; right now I'm interested in the content aspect of things.
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Offline Black Wolf

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
Whoa whoa whoa. As one of the more active wiki users, I'd be very, very strongly opposed to moving away from Mediawiki. Mediawiki is the largest wiki standard on the web and has tonnes of functionality extensions, many of which we've already implemented, many others we could/should, and who knows how many in the future (the sheer user base for mediawiki means stuff like p3d integration will come to it before any other wiki types).

And that's before we then have to reimplement all the existing wiki stuff?  What advantages are there to shifting, exactly?
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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
Whoa whoa whoa. As one of the more active wiki users, I'd be very, very strongly opposed to moving away from Mediawiki. Mediawiki is the largest wiki standard on the web and has tonnes of functionality extensions, many of which we've already implemented, many others we could/should, and who knows how many in the future (the sheer user base for mediawiki means stuff like p3d integration will come to it before any other wiki types).

And that's before we then have to reimplement all the existing wiki stuff?  What advantages are there to shifting, exactly?

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Offline Fury

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
Yeah, I agree with Black Wolf. I've never been convinced HLP needs CMS in the first place.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
Dumping our entire wiki system for a new one and having to rebuild from the ground up to deal with an issue that not everybody has and doesn't actually stop the show even when it's present is a wee bit overcorrective.
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Offline Fury

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
Well, I believe it has been Sandwich's intention to move from SMF to EE's built-in forums as well. That way EE would encompass most of HLP's web applications. I've just never liked that idea.

 

Offline Sandwich

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
I do have a desire to move as much as possible over to EE-based alternatives, primarily due to security reasons, Fury. EE has a superb security track record, and with recent events we've had, we could use secure software.

Integration is another reason, where forum posts, Wiki articles, and site content would all be able to intermingle (trying to avoid getting technical here...).

However, EE's forums do not meet our needs right now, so there's absolutely no intention of switching over to them anytime until and unless they do (specifically, they don't have the ability for a user to belong to multiple membergroups).

That said, I'm less familiar with our Wiki needs than I am with our forum usage. This is why I wanted y'all to try the EE Wiki out, and let me know what you think. I haven't made a unilateral decision to shut down the current MediaWiki by any means, and I'm sorry if that's how it came across. All I'm asking is your help in evaluating whether the EE wiki can suit our wiki needs or not. If it is suitable, I would like to transfer away from the MediaWiki once all the content has been transferred - as has been stated, "MediaWiki's template system is pain in the ass". :)

Whoa whoa whoa. As one of the more active wiki users, I'd be very, very strongly opposed to moving away from Mediawiki. Mediawiki is the largest wiki standard on the web and has tonnes of functionality extensions, many of which we've already implemented, many others we could/should, and who knows how many in the future (the sheer user base for mediawiki means stuff like p3d integration will come to it before any other wiki types).

And that's before we then have to reimplement all the existing wiki stuff?  What advantages are there to shifting, exactly?

I'll tell you what I tell my kids: "Try a bite before you state you don't like it." ;)

What special functionality have we added to MW?
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline SypheDMar

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Re: Where did you go wiki sidebar?
Okay, I tried to give it a shot, but the registration insists there's an image that I need to type in before I register. I don't see it even with all add-ons/extensions disabled.

Tried Chrome and Pale Moon