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Offline TopAce

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The Unlucky Top 13 Mistakes made by new FREDders
Fortunately, only #13 is valid for me. Sometimes, I tend to make few and short briefings, but that is not the Only one directive type of mistake.
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Offline Black Wolf

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It's a very solid list, I'm guilty of a few of them as well, at times. Should be wikied and stickied.
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Offline TopAce

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Yes, I will put this into the Wiki.
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Thanks TopAce. Much Appreciated. I'll probably be sticking it in the FAQ at some point too.

 I'll sticky this tomorrow once it's over 24 hours old :D
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'Wikified'. You can reach it by going to FRED Tips.
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Offline Grimloq

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actually, im quite proud that i almos never have innacurate debriefings :) even without variables.
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Offline Falcon

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I've always thought that having excess fighters of the same type added a little realism.  Thought it would be something you would expect if you were on a destroyer. Since the destroyer has more than one wing instead of just Alpha, Beta, and Gamma to look after. IMHO

 

Offline karajorma

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Originally posted by Falcon
I've always thought that having excess fighters of the same type added a little realism.  Thought it would be something you would expect if you were on a destroyer. Since the destroyer has more than one wing instead of just Alpha, Beta, and Gamma to look after. IMHO


The problem with that approach is that if you're showing fighters the destroyer has then just showing a handful of fighters is similarly unrealistic. A destroyer would probably have 20 or 30 myrmidons on board.

Besides if you're going down the team loadout turning off what you don't need is there any harm in turning off one more box? :D

The last reason I mention it is so that people don't get confused about the way the loadout options in the mission and campaign editors work. In the mission editor any ships added are extras. You don't need to tick the myrmidon box just because you've already assigned Alpha wing to myrimdons. Same goes for weapons. In the campaign editor however you do have to specify which ships and weapons will be used in the first mission (as well as any following missions when you haven't used allow-ships to add them).
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Offline WMCoolmon

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12) No use of the Y-axis
Ever seen Star Trek II : Wrath of Khan. Ever got the feeling that the captains of all the ships in a mission haven't? They're all arranged on the XZ plane. No ships diving in from above or nipping in from below. While it's believable that a small convoy of ships might arrange themselves this way so as to spread their flak above and below them effectively it's harder to believe that enemy ships jumping in would somehow know what plane they were on and leap in on it.


Unless, of course, you're designing a mission for Fs2D. :drevil:

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9) No use of the escort list
All major capships and anything which is mission critical should appear on the escort list. Making a ship appear there is very simple. Just go to the ships editor>>misc. Tick the escort ship box and assign a priority. All caps should be given a priority. Don't make the mistake of only giving them to the 3 most important ships in the game. If one of them is blown up the next most important ship should then appear on the list.


All the more important since "There's too many of them!" is no longer an excuse - you can always use hud_gauges.tbl to bump the number up a notch.


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Offline NGTM-1R

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Originally posted by Axem
A few comments on the naming conventions. I've noticed in some campaigns people put the prefix along with the name, ex: GTC Trinty. I don't know if its right or wrong.

The FRED walkthrough did it like that but the main campaign never did. Personally I find it pointless as the prefix is also right under the name of the ship as well. It also leaves almost no room on the escort like so I'm forced to see something like:

GTD Neri...  60
GVCv Tat... 92
GTVA Col... 1


Some of us are attempting to distingush actual ownership of the craft...see Derelict for a good example.
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Offline Setekh

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A well thought-out and written piece of helpful information, as always, kara. I think this really belongs in the news...
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Yeah. I suppose I should have posted it :) Guess I'm too modest :D
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Offline TopAce

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It is me who is modest. You are [glow=orange]!MINDFUL![/glow]
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Offline Goober5000

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karajorma, you should put this on the Wiki. :)

 

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goober, he already did
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Offline Goober5000

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Eh... no he didn't, TopAce did. :p

 

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Offline karajorma

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Eh... no he didn't, TopAce did. :p


And you believe that I might be able to do a better job of porting it to the wiki than TopAce? I'm sure he'd be happy to hear the reasons for this. :p
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Offline TopAce

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Now that you mention it, I made some modifications in the style of the page.
http://dynamic3.gamespy.com/~freespace/fsdoc/index.php?pagename=Typical%20mistakes

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