I hear rumors that the Duke has no hit points. Instead, his health system is based on ego.
i am so pumped for this game
Oh, hey, look, another FPS with a hypermacho protagonist! What an unbelievably new concept! I am quite certain that this WILL be the most important game EVER MADE
If its done by the same folks that did Painkiller I suppose "a gun that shoots dogs" isn't out of the question
Oh, hey, look, another FPS with a hypermacho protagonist! What an unbelievably new concept! I am quite certain that this WILL be the most important game EVER MADE. Nothing will ever be able to come -near it!
In other news, hell just froze over. Seriously, now we're supposed to celebrate the rebirth of an IP that over the past few years has lost any shred of uniqueness or appeal? Give me a new TimeSplitters instead.
Oh, hey, look, another FPS with a hypermacho protagonist! What an unbelievably new concept! I am quite certain that this WILL be the most important game EVER MADE. Nothing will ever be able to come near it!
In other news, hell just froze over. Seriously, now we're supposed to celebrate the rebirth of an IP that over the past few years has lost any shred of uniqueness or appeal? Give me a new TimeSplitters instead.
Oh, hey, look, another FPS with a hypermacho protagonist! What an unbelievably new concept! I am quite certain that this WILL be the most important game EVER MADE. Nothing will ever be able to come near it!
In other news, hell just froze over. Seriously, now we're supposed to celebrate the rebirth of an IP that over the past few years has lost any shred of uniqueness or appeal? Give me a new TimeSplitters instead.
Even if this actually comes out, I can't see how it would impress anyone today (aside from the fact that it was released). It seems like a fun game but will essentially be just another FPS. It had to have been released 10 years ago to stand out in any way. Duke himself won't be much of a selling point today, especially to all the console gamers. Many of them have only heard of Duke at all because of the delays on this game.Me and every body who i know and was a PC gamer or Duke Nukem fan back in the ninetees buy this.
Even if this actually comes out, I can't see how it would impress anyone today (aside from the fact that it was released). It seems like a fun game but will essentially be just another FPS. It had to have been released 10 years ago to stand out in any way. Duke himself won't be much of a selling point today, especially to all the console gamers. Many of them have only heard of Duke at all because of the delays on this game.Why does every game have to "impress" people? Sometimes you just want to relax and blow **** up, and I imagine this game will provide that in spades.
Even if this actually comes out, I can't see how it would impress anyone today (aside from the fact that it was released). It seems like a fun game but will essentially be just another FPS. It had to have been released 10 years ago to stand out in any way. Duke himself won't be much of a selling point today, especially to all the console gamers. Many of them have only heard of Duke at all because of the delays on this game.Why does every game have to "impress" people? Sometimes you just want to relax and blow **** up, and I imagine this game will provide that in spades.
Even if this actually comes out, I can't see how it would impress anyone today (aside from the fact that it was released). It seems like a fun game but will essentially be just another FPS. It had to have been released 10 years ago to stand out in any way. Duke himself won't be much of a selling point today, especially to all the console gamers. Many of them have only heard of Duke at all because of the delays on this game.Why does every game have to "impress" people? Sometimes you just want to relax and blow **** up, and I imagine this game will provide that in spades.
Hell, I've been dying to play the original Duke 3D for a long time now. I really need to buy that off GOG.
Even if this actually comes out, I can't see how it would impress anyone today (aside from the fact that it was released). It seems like a fun game but will essentially be just another FPS. It had to have been released 10 years ago to stand out in any way. Duke himself won't be much of a selling point today, especially to all the console gamers. Many of them have only heard of Duke at all because of the delays on this game.Why does every game have to "impress" people? Sometimes you just want to relax and blow **** up, and I imagine this game will provide that in spades.
Even if this actually comes out, I can't see how it would impress anyone today (aside from the fact that it was released). It seems like a fun game but will essentially be just another FPS. It had to have been released 10 years ago to stand out in any way. Duke himself won't be much of a selling point today, especially to all the console gamers. Many of them have only heard of Duke at all because of the delays on this game.Why does every game have to "impress" people? Sometimes you just want to relax and blow **** up, and I imagine this game will provide that in spades.
Seriously. I'm tired of this "games are art" bull**** that the industry these days keeps trying to push. Let us blow some **** up and laugh about it with friends - that's gaming. It's about being fun, not how brilliant your orchestral score full of weeping orphans can be while your protagonist is selflessly throwing himself in front of a cart of nuns and getting shots with bullets made of blood from his ex-wife that was brutally murdered in an in-game cutscene.
Even if this actually comes out, I can't see how it would impress anyone today (aside from the fact that it was released). It seems like a fun game but will essentially be just another FPS. It had to have been released 10 years ago to stand out in any way. Duke himself won't be much of a selling point today, especially to all the console gamers. Many of them have only heard of Duke at all because of the delays on this game.Why does every game have to "impress" people? Sometimes you just want to relax and blow **** up, and I imagine this game will provide that in spades.
Seriously. I'm tired of this "games are art" bull**** that the industry these days keeps trying to push. Let us blow some **** up and laugh about it with friends - that's gaming. It's about being fun, not how brilliant your orchestral score full of weeping orphans can be while your protagonist is selflessly throwing himself in front of a cart of nuns and getting shots with bullets made of blood from his ex-wife that was brutally murdered in an in-game cutscene.
Even if this actually comes out, I can't see how it would impress anyone today (aside from the fact that it was released). It seems like a fun game but will essentially be just another FPS. It had to have been released 10 years ago to stand out in any way. Duke himself won't be much of a selling point today, especially to all the console gamers. Many of them have only heard of Duke at all because of the delays on this game.Why does every game have to "impress" people? Sometimes you just want to relax and blow **** up, and I imagine this game will provide that in spades.
Seriously. I'm tired of this "games are art" bull**** that the industry these days keeps trying to push. Let us blow some **** up and laugh about it with friends - that's gaming. It's about being fun, not how brilliant your orchestral score full of weeping orphans can be while your protagonist is selflessly throwing himself in front of a cart of nuns and getting shots with bullets made of blood from his ex-wife that was brutally murdered in an in-game cutscene.
Even if this actually comes out, I can't see how it would impress anyone today (aside from the fact that it was released). It seems like a fun game but will essentially be just another FPS. It had to have been released 10 years ago to stand out in any way. Duke himself won't be much of a selling point today, especially to all the console gamers. Many of them have only heard of Duke at all because of the delays on this game.Why does every game have to "impress" people? Sometimes you just want to relax and blow **** up, and I imagine this game will provide that in spades.
Seriously. I'm tired of this "games are art" bull**** that the industry these days keeps trying to push. Let us blow some **** up and laugh about it with friends - that's gaming. It's about being fun, not how brilliant your orchestral score full of weeping orphans can be while your protagonist is selflessly throwing himself in front of a cart of nuns and getting shots with bullets made of blood from his ex-wife that was brutally murdered in an in-game cutscene.
You guys are missing the point. I'm not saying that a good game needs to have a story or deep gameplay (in fact, these fast-paced, unrealistic FPSs usually have better gameplay and more varied weapons than the semi-realistic ones), but that there are plenty of other games that do this kind of gameplay very well. DNF certainly looks like it will be a fun game, but it's not going to the revolutionary hit that DN3D was in 1996.
Even if this actually comes out, I can't see how it would impress anyone today (aside from the fact that it was released). It seems like a fun game but will essentially be just another FPS. It had to have been released 10 years ago to stand out in any way. Duke himself won't be much of a selling point today, especially to all the console gamers. Many of them have only heard of Duke at all because of the delays on this game.Why does every game have to "impress" people? Sometimes you just want to relax and blow **** up, and I imagine this game will provide that in spades.
Seriously. I'm tired of this "games are art" bull**** that the industry these days keeps trying to push. Let us blow some **** up and laugh about it with friends - that's gaming. It's about being fun, not how brilliant your orchestral score full of weeping orphans can be while your protagonist is selflessly throwing himself in front of a cart of nuns and getting shots with bullets made of blood from his ex-wife that was brutally murdered in an in-game cutscene.
You guys are missing the point. I'm not saying that a good game needs to have a story or deep gameplay (in fact, these fast-paced, unrealistic FPSs usually have better gameplay and more varied weapons than the semi-realistic ones), but that there are plenty of other games that do this kind of gameplay very well. DNF certainly looks like it will be a fun game, but it's not going to the revolutionary hit that DN3D was in 1996.
How was DN3d revolutionary? Most of the groundwork had already been done by Doom, some 3 years earlier.
It's about being fun, not how brilliant your orchestral score full of weeping orphans can be
Perhaps, because any sniper rifle in COD4 will kill someone with a head shot unless they're using Juggernaut. And then, if you're using stopping power, it will anyway.
Can't you have fun works of art that aren't maudlin, e.g. FS1/2?
Why is art pretentious? If a picture of colored soup cans is art, how is something like FreeSpace (or Dragon Age, or Shadow of the Colosssus) not art?
Why is art pretentious? If a picture of colored soup cans is art, how is something like FreeSpace (or Dragon Age, or Shadow of the Colossus) not art?Some of us would argue that colored soup cans aren't art...and they're on the benign side of things. I saw an "exhibition" in a museum I was in recently that consisted of twisted piles of shop lights and blinds. :p
Your argument is based around the mistaken belief that by art we mean visual art. Graphics are not what we are talking about when we say that games can be art.
A novel is art, a piece of music is art, Shadow of the Colossus is art, even something like Metroid Prime is arguably art while being fun and involving the explosive or ballistic death of aliens.
Fallacy of the excluded middle.
On a broader level, intentionality is largely irrelevant.
Your argument is based around the mistaken belief that by art we mean visual art. Graphics are not what we are talking about when we say that games can be art.
A novel is art, a piece of music is art, Shadow of the Colossus is art, even something like Metroid Prime is arguably art while being fun and involving the explosive or ballistic death of aliens.
Fallacy of the excluded middle.
On a broader level, intentionality is largely irrelevant.
I argued something like this before. Games aren't art because art is not supposed to have an express purpose. To be considered a game, an interactive thing must be fun. Otherwise it's not a game. If it's trying to be fun then it's a game, if it's simply existing to allow the user to interact with something so that they can assimilate some sort of point or lesson, then it could be considered art.
I would also like to know why no one argues for board games to be art.
I think they were using the Valve time scale.Seems more like the Blizzard time scale.
I think they were using the Valve time scale.Seems more like the Blizzard time scale.
And for the gentlemen discussing about art, interactive media and its relevance to games, maybe this isn't the thread for it.
Maybe this isn't the thread for YOU
gauntlet!
Duke Nukem Forever to be released next year by Gearbox
...You're pissin' Duke off.
...You're pissin' Duke off.
...and he's all outta gum.
:p
I'll give him a stick of my stride gum
...You're pissin' Duke off.
...and he's all outta gum.
:p
...You're pissin' Duke off.
...and he's all outta gum.
:p
...You're pissin' Duke off.
...and he's all outta gum.
:p
Which is a line Duke stole :p
All your lines just made me wonder how do the 13 year old kids (=those who never played the 3D) see your quotations. And also that how would they see the one liner spewing overtly muscular macho protagonist straight from the 80's action movie. Well, it remains to be seen. Personally, I think it will still work.
Doesn't the Shrapnel City start with Duke saying something like "That's the second time those alien bastards shot down my ride"?
Besides I was halfway wishing for a DukeTalk match between forumites.
Bring it on and come get some
:lol:
Ha, the captain's log! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjHz2gpEk-g)
Those who never heard it (are there any?) that was from a map which looked like Starship Enterprise when entering the *really* ready room.
We meet again, Doctor Jones!
...which is a line from They Live. :p
...You're pissin' Duke off.
...and he's all outta gum.
:p
Which is a line Duke stole :p
"Its time to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of gum"
:lol::lol:
Ha, the captain's log! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjHz2gpEk-g)
speaking of a demo, does anyone remember that cool trailer that was released a few years ago?
This one? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDlB2P1leRM) EDIT: Which has a Terminator lookalike?