[Unknown Target]

   So 2.2 will have some more features on the FPS side and 2.3 will have some more and so on until we sort of what we consider the basic functionality.

I do actually kind of like to say something because I sort of get annoyed sometimes when I see this pop up in comments like “Oh Star Marine is cancelled or Where’s Star Marine!?”

    When we’ve got that basic set together we will sort of turn on the map for Star Marine because all Star Marine is, is a game mode.

All the non-certainties in his speech are the mark of someone who's making it up as they go along.

[Col. Fishguts]

We have never worked with Illfonic. We have always intended to throw out Star Marine. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Preorders are wise.

+42

[NGTM-1R]

You know, between this and Trump, I'm pretty sure I've crossed into the Alternate Universe.

It's time to grow a *****in' goatee and practice my eyebrow-raise, I think.

[That Man]

Some cracks are appearing over one of Crobert's recent statements toward backers.

This could be it.

2016 might actually be the year Star Citizen bites the dust. The failure that keeps on giving could come completely off the rails relatively soon. And there are front-row seats for when the train wreck finally gets a-rollin'.

What a time to be alive.

Edit: Link for more context.

[Kszyhu]

And yet, the funding still flows in.

[Luis Dias]

It's like spice.

[The E]

The jpgs must flow.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Some cracks are appearing over one of Crobert's recent statements toward backers.

This could be it.

2016 might actually be the year Star Citizen bites the dust. The failure that keeps on giving could come completely off the rails relatively soon. And there are front-row seats for when the train wreck finally gets a-rollin'.

What a time to be alive.

Edit: Link for more context.

Yeah this post, if true, is particularly damning:

[Kszyhu]

Access to the PU is free this weekend, if someone without a pledge really wants to test it for themselves. Even though I haven't encountered any crashes or very obvious bugs for first fifteen minutes (though a crash happened just afterwards), there's this overwhelming feeling of everything being held together by a duct tape and wishful thinking.

[Col. Fishguts]

Edit: Link for more context.

That SA thread is entertaining as hell, but it's growing faster than I can keep up with.
One strange observation is, that Derek can write coherent and sometimes outright funny posts if he is not in FULL RAEG!!!!111 mode.

[Scotty]

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That SA thread is entertaining as hell, but it's growing faster than I can keep up with.
One strange observation is, that Derek can write coherent and sometimes outright funny posts if he is not in FULL RAEG!!!!111 mode.

This is most Goons, in my experience.

[Spoon]

Edit: Link for more context.

That SA thread is entertaining as hell, but it's growing faster than I can keep up with.
One strange observation is, that Derek can write coherent and sometimes outright funny posts if he is not in FULL RAEG!!!!111 mode.

The thread moves insanely fast, I read like 10-15 pages, came back a day or so later to find this one funny picture... Only to find like 40 new pages were added. Entertaining indeed though.
And also yeah, Derek smart Derek smart DEREK SMART has really mellowed out with age. He has gathered a bit of wisdom with his greyhairs. I find his recent posts/blog/twitter good reads on this subject of scamcitizen.

[Unknown Target]

Looks like that SA thread is behind a paywall now. Anyone know what's going on in it?

[Turambar]

Access to the PU is free this weekend, if someone without a pledge really wants to test it for themselves. Even though I haven't encountered any crashes or very obvious bugs for first fifteen minutes (though a crash happened just afterwards), there's this overwhelming feeling of everything being held together by a duct tape and wishful thinking.

This is every single game.  "polish" is just the process of hiding the tape. 

[Phantom Hoover]

e:d has held together on a basic physics and game feel level since its earliest prototypes

[Spoon]

Looks like that SA thread is behind a paywall now. Anyone know what's going on in it?

Aaaw, it was such a blast to read too

[666maslo666]

e:d has held together on a basic physics and game feel level since its earliest prototypes

E:D has simplistic flight model that does not even attempt to physically simulate forces acting on a spacecraft. You are comparing apples and oranges.

Also, in my subjective opinion, Star Citizen game feel, as a whole, is already superior to Elite: "aeroplanes in space" Dangerous. Even if Elite "physics" may feel more polished.

[Kszyhu]

The entire Games subforum seems to be paywalled now. It's a shame, too, it was one of the few places you could read something negative about SC without it being drowned out by vocal parts of the fanbase. I think the last significant event was banning of a goon from RSI forums for informing someone about chargebacks through the PM system.

This is every single game.  "polish" is just the process of hiding the tape. 

Maybe you're right, but it didn't feel like something easily fixable.

E:D has simplistic flight model that does not even attempt to physically simulate forces acting on a spacecraft. You are comparing apples and oranges.

Also, in my subjective opinion, Star Citizen game feel, as a whole, is already superior to Elite: "aeroplanes in space" Dangerous. Even if Elite "physics" may feel more polished.

I was interested in the 'physically simulated' aspect of SC at first, but the fact a Mustang or those Vandal fighters can fly in a straight line killed my faith in that. It's a shame, too, the potential (and limitations) of that approach were visible back in 0.8, when the Aurora was unable to yaw at high speeds due to IFCS freaking out. Besides, KSP already does that, there's nothing impressive in it. As for E:D's 'airplane physics', I'm guessing it could be easily fixable by changing some values in XML file somewhere.

[Phantom Hoover]

SA paywalls its forums periodically as part of its comprehensive suite of ingroup cultivation techniques, they'll open them up again eventually (long before CIG delivers on a promise, I'm sure).

star citizen's flight model attempts to simulate a shoebox with trackballs on the corners and it does it very badly

[FrikgFeek]

The only thing that's even remotely plane-like in Elite is the slow yawing. You don't have to worry about gravity, lift, stability, altitude, or pretty much anything that's a core part of plane sims. You have side thrusters and reverse thrust too.

And the limited yawing just makes dogfights interesting, as you have to match orientation with your target so you're on the same plane. Too bad the AI is pretty ****ty though...

Elite handling feels more polished because it was designed from the ground up to feel good to play, unlike SC which was designed to "simulate" and then they had to hack in actual gameplay.