[Mobius]

I wonder if Discord moderation will be enforced somehow, because I've just learned of quite offensive statements and they passed almost unnoticed until someone brought them to the attention of whoever was following a particular channel.

(EDIT: for the record, this post, as well as most of the following posts in this thread, are the result of a split from What should HLP 2021 be?. I did not create a new thread from scratch just to address the issue reported below.)

[Mongoose]

If something came up, then please bring it to the attention of a Discord mod.

[Mobius]

Nightmare did it and one of the mods was "fine" with it, apparently.

[Nightmare]

If something came up, then please bring it to the attention of a Discord mod.

Too bad the only Discord mod around at that time thinks that slurs are perfectly fine.

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[Mobius]

That's so sad. Also, similar comments can be found by scrolling up in that channel, and they're not necessarily aimed at Lorric.

I see double standards here, because the very same comments - if posted on the forums - would result in serious backlash and drama. How come they're fine on Discord? Aren't HLP's boards and Discord channels part of the same, big family?

[The E]

Too bad the only Discord mod around at that time thinks that slurs are perfectly fine.

Neither "autistic" nor "autistic as ****" constitute a slur in this context.

There are very few things that will create a situation where I or other moderators will immediately bring the hammer down on someone. Outright spam. Complete bull**** like "the nazis were actually socialist!!!". Actual use of slurs, or use of innocuous words as slurs. This is not one of those.

As for "[The_E] thinks that slurs are fine": No, I do not. However, I am not the language police. I will not warn people off for using colorful language, so long as they do not cross the line.

[Nightmare]

Too bad the only Discord mod around at that time thinks that slurs are perfectly fine.

I'm not seeing a slur.  Perhaps you'd like to point it out?

Phantom Hoover said: i am well aware that lorric is autistic as f_uck and bullying him for the sake of it would be sh!tty and cruel (replaced i with ! to avoid forum censor)

[Grizzly]

the forum censor can be turned off on the user side of things. No need to adjust for it.

[Nightmare]

I don't feel like messing around with settings just to be edgier (or transport other people edgyness).

[General Battuta]

As a non autistic person, it's not a word I would use in that context, but it's kind of up to autistic people to decide what they're comfortable calling each other. Queer people all each other "gay as ****" all the time, it's not a slur.

Also HLP isn't HLP discord, they're separate things.

There is, uh, something called 'concern trolling'.

[Aesaar]

Too bad the only Discord mod around at that time thinks that slurs are perfectly fine.

I'm not seeing a slur.  Perhaps you'd like to point it out?

Phantom Hoover said: i am well aware that lorric is autistic as f_uck and bullying him for the sake of it would be sh!tty and cruel (replaced i with ! to avoid forum censor)

That's it?  I'm really getting the feeling that this is just your frustration with "people who start drama" bubbling over.

[Grizzly]

I don't feel like messing around with settings just to be edgier (or transport other people edgyness).

but you don't need to do anything. People who don't want to see **** don't get to see it. people who do want to see **** get to see it. By bypassing the filter now, you actually are making things worse for the people who have enabled the filter! You are literally doing extra effort that serves to transport other people's edgyness.

(to clarify, the filter does not adjust the content of the actual posts in the database, they only alter how those posts show up for the individual user reading the forum based on whether or not they have the filter enabled).

[Nightmare]

I don't feel like messing around with settings just to be edgier (or transport other people edgyness).

but you don't need to do anything. People who don't want to see **** don't get to see it. people who do want to see **** get to see it. By bypassing the filter now, you actually are making things worse for the people who have enabled the filter! You are literally doing extra effort that serves to transport other people's edgyness.

(to clarify, the filter does not adjust the content of the actual posts in the database, they only alter how those posts show up for the individual user reading the forum based on whether or not they have the filter enabled).

Ah, OK; didn't knew that.

Too bad the only Discord mod around at that time thinks that slurs are perfectly fine.

I'm not seeing a slur.  Perhaps you'd like to point it out?

Phantom Hoover said: i am well aware that lorric is autistic as f_uck and bullying him for the sake of it would be sh!tty and cruel (replaced i with ! to avoid forum censor)

That's it?  I'm really getting the feeling that this is just your frustration with "people who start drama" bubbling over.

Well you flat out admitted in the other thread that you only come to HLP for trolling so I don't think anybody needs to take you opinion serious.

[Aesaar]

Well you flat out admitted in the other thread that you only come to HLP for trolling so I don't think anybody needs to take you opinion serious.

I don't ever recall saying this.

[Grizzly]

Will you two idiots please stop questioning eachother's ulterior motives and give Phantom Hoover some time to speak for himself?

[Nightmare]

Well you flat out admitted in the other thread that you only come to HLP for trolling so I don't think anybody needs to take you opinion serious.

I don't ever recall saying this.

The notion that the purpose of discussing something is to convince others you're right is a flawed one. 

I don't argue with people in order to change their minds.  I argue with them to see if they can change mine.  A discussion can help me refine and strengthen my position.  The purpose is self-development.  I don't much care if the person I'm arguing with agrees with me in the end.

If you don't come to discuss you opinions but just slapfight you're a troll. You can do that literally everywhere else.

[EatThePath]

If this is, indeed, the hurtful and out of line slur that you believe it to be, aren't there better ways to raise your concerns than posting screen caps of that slur in a thread where the subject of it is active and will most likely be reading it?

[Grizzly]

If you don't come to discuss you opinions but just slapfight you're a troll. You can do that literally everywhere else.

Nightmare, talking to other people to see how they think and learn from it is the opposite of a slapfight. Discussions are not zero-sum games where one side has to convince the other to "win".

I argue with them to see if they can change mine.

That's literally the opposite of trolling! A troll isn't there to listen to people.

[Aesaar]

Well you flat out admitted in the other thread that you only come to HLP for trolling so I don't think anybody needs to take you opinion serious.

I don't ever recall saying this.

The notion that the purpose of discussing something is to convince others you're right is a flawed one. 

I don't argue with people in order to change their minds.  I argue with them to see if they can change mine.  A discussion can help me refine and strengthen my position.  The purpose is self-development.  I don't much care if the person I'm arguing with agrees with me in the end.

If you don't come to discuss you opinions but just slapfight you're a troll. You can do that literally everywhere else.

That's an absurd definition of trolling.  Trolling is fundamentally a dishonest act only meant to rile people up.  I make sincere attempts to engage, even when I know I'm not going to convince anyone, because I always try to remain open to being convinced myself.

Literally the opposite of trolling.

Will you two idiots please stop questioning eachother's ulterior motives and give Phantom Hoover some time to speak for himself?

 
Are we using up the finite amount of posts in the universe?  Phantom can post whenever he likes.  There's plenty of room.

[Mobius]

Will you two idiots please stop questioning eachother's ulterior motives and give Phantom Hoover some time to speak for himself?

Oh Jesus, are you trying to calm people down by offending them? Are they idiots to you? 

If this is, indeed, the hurtful and out of line slur that you believe it to be, aren't there better ways to raise your concerns than posting screen caps of that slur in a thread where the subject of it is active and will most likely be reading it?

Hold on, are you somehow implying that it's okay to offend a member of the HLP boards on the HLP Discord, in case said member doesn't normally use Discord itself? Is that an out of sight, out of mind philosophy?