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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 21, 2001, 12:10:00 am: How come all GTVA fighters and bombers have no ejection seats? Makes you wonder if the GTVA values their pilots.

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on March 21, 2001, 12:19:00 am: Gameplay.
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 21, 2001, 12:21:00 am: That cannot be the answer though. X-Wing had ejection seats.

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on March 21, 2001, 12:30:00 am: Well... suppose (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) had put in ejection seats. They would have to put in lots of work to add the effects and animations of an ejection, and then what would happen after you ejected? You don't have a space suit on, so I assume your entire cockpit would have to come with you. So then a support ship would probably have to pick you up and jump out with you... it's a lot of extra work that (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) would have to do, and it wouldn't add that much to gameplay - would it? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 21, 2001, 03:44:00 am: Okay. Imagine this. If you knew you were about to be blown apart by a swarm of 8 Hornets, you eject. The cockpit most probably ejects with you inside like the Wing Commander movie. Now, if the enemy decides to shoot you with the ejection pod, you die and have to start the game all over again as a new pilot. If you get rescued by a support ship, you getr sent back to base, reprimanded and then sent back into battle. What you think?

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on March 21, 2001, 03:59:00 am: You gonna write the code? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Shrike on March 21, 2001, 04:07:00 am: Don't die. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Sushi on March 21, 2001, 02:33:00 pm: No ejection seats please. It really wouldn't add anything to the game, and would sort of distract from some of the tension.

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 21, 2001, 08:29:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
You gonna write the code? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Originally posted by Sushi:
No ejection seats please. It really wouldn't add anything to the game, and would sort of distract from some of the tension.

I spent the whole night pondering and now I would have to say I agree with you. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on March 22, 2001, 03:55:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by NeoHunter:
I always make it back to base 95 percent of the time in the worst shape possible. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Are you saying you get back to base? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Kazan on March 22, 2001, 02:19:00 pm: even in WC i hardly ever ejected

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Sushi on March 22, 2001, 02:37:00 pm: Ejecting in any game is just another way to lose the mission. If things got hopeless, I've always had more going Kamikaze than trying to eject.

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 23, 2001, 04:14:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sushi:
Ejecting in any game is just another way to lose the mission. If things got hopeless, I've always had more going Kamikaze than trying to eject.

Ouch! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 23, 2001, 04:17:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
Are you saying you get back to base? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Hey! I'm not that bad a pilot!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 23, 2001, 04:18:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kazan:
even in WC i hardly ever ejected

Because you always get destroyed before you can ejected? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on March 23, 2001, 05:55:00 pm: I get back to base about 2/3 of the time...
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Falcon X on March 24, 2001, 11:19:00 pm: See I like "Into the Fire"'s idea. Eject and see if your wingmen can complete it, if they can't you redo it.
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Jake Logan on March 25, 2001, 12:27:00 am: Maybe GTVA ships DO have egection seats and they eject right before the ship explodes and are beamed onto a nearby ship.
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 25, 2001, 12:43:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Jake Logan:
Maybe GTVA ships DO have egection seats and they eject right before the ship explodes and are beamed onto a nearby ship.

Explain "beamed". This is FreeSpace remember?

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Griffon UK on March 25, 2001, 01:40:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sushi:
Ejecting in any game is just another way to lose the mission.

not neccessarily...

if were speaking in WC terms, ejecting creates plot branches (like if you eject on a bombing run & leave a carrier intact)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Sushi on March 25, 2001, 02:35:00 pm: ...but it's no different than if you just gave up and flew back to base.

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 25, 2001, 09:27:00 pm: Know what? I just got an idea.

If you fail to destroy an enemy capital ship, that same capital may appear again as reinforcement in another mission. A little of playing around with the SEXPs and it can be done.

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on March 26, 2001, 05:15:00 am: We have Something Similar [tm] in store for the MT campaign. Let me just say, the end of the mission will not be the end of your torment. The past will come back to haunt you. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 26, 2001, 07:35:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
We have Something Similar [tm] in store for the MT campaign. Let me just say, the end of the mission will not be the end of your torment. The past will come back to haunt you. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif)

Oh boy!!! Yummy! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on March 27, 2001, 06:12:00 am: No way - you'll be cowering in your seat as you press 'commit' again and wish your mummy would come and save you from this horrible, never-ending nightmare.

Yeh, I think it's pretty good. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 27, 2001, 08:37:00 am: (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: The Claw on March 28, 2001, 04:42:00 am: Wait till the Death Chickens come to get you (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: QXMX on March 28, 2001, 11:26:00 am: I'd like to see them possibly for other purposes. Something like if you're flying a ship loaded with helios torpedoes and you're the last bomber left, and you need to take out the destroyer, just kamakaze the the thing and eject before you hit(the cockpits should be equipped with minature jump drives the will at least clear you from the battle in a random direction on a one shot deal). Great for a heroic last-ditch effort, and possibly earning a medal and promotion.

Ok, I'll stop rambling now (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 28, 2001, 07:39:00 pm: And suddenly, the game asks you to replay the game because you should return with the bomber and not without. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Space Cowboy on March 28, 2001, 09:18:00 pm: Alpha 1: I got a lock on the sathanas!

Command: Well what are you waiting for? Get off your *** and destroy the sathanas now!

Alpha 1: Yeah yeah!

*Alpha 1 mistakenly presses the ejection seat instead of the missle fire button*

*Alpha 1 is ejected from his bomber*

Alpha 1: @#$%!

Seriously, ejection seats would be a good idea, it would add to the gameplay! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 28, 2001, 10:44:00 pm: That's what I thought too. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on March 29, 2001, 02:55:00 am: Okay, okay, you convinced me.

Now who's going to do it? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 30, 2001, 12:38:00 am: A person who knows how the V Gods program FreeSpace 2. Maybe Kazan? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on March 30, 2001, 02:00:00 am: You're going to need the source first. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on March 30, 2001, 02:25:00 am: Exactly.

By thw way, what's the status of the release of the source code?

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on March 30, 2001, 03:20:00 am: Nothing still.
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Sushi on March 30, 2001, 02:30:00 pm: Hmmm...I hadn't considered Kamikaze. I LIKE that idea. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Martinus on March 31, 2001, 09:43:00 pm: Quote
I'd like to see them possibly for other purposes. Something like if you're flying a ship loaded with helios torpedoes and you're the last bomber left, and you need to take out the destroyer, just kamakaze the the thing and eject before you hit(the cockpits should be equipped with minature jump drives the will at least clear you from the battle in a random direction on a one shot deal). Great for a heroic last-ditch effort, and possibly earning a medal and promotion.
Ok, I'll stop rambling now

How about filling your cockpit full of TNT and ejecting into a destroyer (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

If this can be done I'm copyrighting the move (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on March 31, 2001, 10:48:00 pm: Meson bombs... alright! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on April 01, 2001, 10:01:00 pm: I don't think kamikazing is a good idea. No glory and honor.

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on April 02, 2001, 04:05:00 am: That makes no sense. Kamikaze is the ultimate sacrifice of yourself for your country - that's why Japanese kamikaze pilots were so enthusiastic! You = crazy (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on April 02, 2001, 04:34:00 am: Those Japanese were crazy. That's all I can say. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Martinus on April 02, 2001, 07:52:00 pm: They certainly scared the s**t out of the americans and took a few boats with them.

I remember seeing a show about it, one of the deck officers on an american vessel noted how troop morale was devastated when they watched a 'zero plunge into the top of a nearby vessel and practically tear the front section away from the main hull.

Scary stuff.
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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on April 02, 2001, 09:58:00 pm: If I were the commander of the armed forces, I would say it was a waste of valuable men and planes.

Anyway, it was the Japanese mistake to ever attack the Americans at Pearl Habour.

If I remember correctly, the Americans were not in a war with the Japanese.

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Martinus on April 02, 2001, 10:19:00 pm: I may be wrong, it was quite a while ago. Discovery channel stuff.

Could it have been the British?
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on April 02, 2001, 10:47:00 pm: Umm....let me see now......

World War 2 was split into two different places of the world. Europe and Asia.

Europe we have the Germans as the bad guys. The British and other Europe countries were fighting the Germans.

In Asia, the Japanese were making a push into China, down to Singapore. The British were there too. The British couldn't do much because the big cannons were facing the sea away from Malaysia but the Japanese came through Malaysia to Singapore. Also, I could be wrong here but the Japanese force was just too fierce to be stopped and the Bristish surrendered, so Singapore became Japanese property for the next 2 to 3 years. Good thing my dad was not born in that era. It was hell I heard.

Anyway, the Americans had a naval base in Pearl Harbour too. Guess the Japanese saw that as a threat if they wanted to conquer the whole Asia. So, they attacked. That got the Americans' attention all right.

The rest you know. Hitler died. How he died nobody can be certain. Some say he commited suicide. The German forces could not survive the harsh weather conditions of the Soviet Union. Japan had a taste of 2 nuclear bombs. End of the war in 1945.

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Martinus on April 03, 2001, 12:04:00 pm: Whoa! NeoHunter, modder, comedian and history buff!! Is there anything this guy can't do?

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on April 03, 2001, 09:28:00 pm: I can cook you a nice breakfast too. Scrambled eggs, toast with whatever jam. I can even fight like a Jedi.

Things that I can't do are using DOS commands because I've been usiing too much Windows, stop myself from being an Internet addict and more. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on April 04, 2001, 01:52:00 am: No! Command line 0wnz j00! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Martinus on April 04, 2001, 10:10:00 am: Microsoft(R) Windows 95
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1996.

C:\>Work you stupid computer
Bad command or file name

C:\>What command?
Bad command or file name

C:\>It's a filename then?
Bad command or file name

C:\>Can't you simply give me a straight answer?
Bad command or file name

C:\>I give up!!
Bad com.. GOOD!!
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Setekh on April 04, 2001, 10:15:00 am: Ouch! 0wnz0red! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Martinus on April 04, 2001, 10:24:00 am: I'm still waiting for 5th generation programming languages:

ME: "Computer make me a program that does this and this and this"

COMPUTER: "No problem"

Right now I still need a computer interpreter known as a computer programmer. (You crazy but wonderful people (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) )
Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: Grey Wolf on April 04, 2001, 04:48:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor:
Microsoft(R) Windows 95
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1996.

C:\>Work you stupid computer
Bad command or file name

C:\>What command?
Bad command or file name

C:\>It's a filename then?
Bad command or file name

C:\>Can't you simply give me a straight answer?
Bad command or file name

C:\>I give up!!
Bad com.. GOOD!!

The amazing thing is I once knew DOS cause I had Windows 3.11. Then we got a new computer with Windows 98 and all of the DOS knowledge was replaced by BG, FS, and CivII knowledge.

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Title: Ejection Seats
Post by: NeoHunter on April 04, 2001, 09:04:00 pm: I think Maeglamor needs a new title. "The Member who had too much SpaceCrack®". (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)

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