Author Topic: Anyone doing the Boanerges? (Read 59805 times)

The E · **Reply #60 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:11:58 pm

Quote from: Mobius on March 26, 2009, 07:08:04 pm

What about a cockpilot, possibly placed near(and not behind) the pilot? I think there's enough space...

Or a side-by-side cockpit like the one found in an EA-6B Prowler?

Mobius · **Reply #61 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:20:08 pm

That's what I said. Oh, the original A-6 Intruder is also a good example.

The E · **Reply #62 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:22:44 pm

Sorry. Must have misread your post.

Droid803 · **Reply #63 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:45:18 pm

What would the copilot do though?
As I said, there's no turret to be a Gunner for.

Zacam · **Reply #64 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:47:03 pm

I think there are a few body panels suggested in the current textured version that don't show themselves in the current model.

I'm betting those will probably remain texture details, But I would like to see what you've done on the thrusters section and are you intending the panel plating to be textured there as well?

Mobius · **Reply #65 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:50:04 pm

Quote from: Droid803 on March 26, 2009, 07:45:18 pm

What would the copilot do though?
As I said, there's no turret to be a Gunner for.

It's not weird to have a copilot in a bomber. On a side note, turrets are controlled by computers so gunners aren't necessary. I believe a copilot helps with aspect lock, navigation, transmissions and such.

The E · **Reply #66 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:55:22 pm

The Zeus doesn't have a turret and carries 2 crewmen, IIRC.

SypheDMar · **Reply #67 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:01:58 pm

Maybe the success of the Boanerges is its relatively low cost. Anyway, just make it look "right". If it looks weird, don't force it to work.

Droid803 · **Reply #68 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:06:04 pm

Quote from: SypheDMar on March 26, 2009, 09:01:58 pm

Maybe the success of the Boanerges is its relatively low cost.

Yeah, it's tech description implies as much.

Quote from: The E on March 26, 2009, 07:55:22 pm

The Zeus doesn't have a turret and carries 2 crewmen, IIRC.

I concede, then. If the copilot fits in the cockpit, go ahead.

Rodo · **Reply #69 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:28:54 pm

lowering the roof of the cockpit to make it fit the upper part of the pilot seat, and widening the cockpit at the bottom part... something like the F-117 maybe? just to brake with the hole round thing of the model.

Galemp · **Reply #70 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:37:42 pm

MUCH nicer cockpit. THANK YOU for doing that. It's already a whole lot sleeker and better designed. From here, perhaps you can make it wider? And perhaps you could pull the sides out so (from the top, facing up) it's more of a / \ shape instead of | |. Then, maybe, you would have room for two pilots side by side.

Also, feel free to remodel the cockpit interior to something more suitable. The model provided to you is by no means the only one that can be used.

Dilmah G · **Reply #71 on:** March 27, 2009, 02:39:05 am

I concur, MUCH better cockpit. If you still want to keep the cockpit maybe borrow the F-14's design and move the pilot forward and place the second one behind him, bringing in the sides if need be.

AthlonBoy · **Reply #72 on:** March 27, 2009, 07:10:25 am

So many ideas for the cockpit. Awesome.

I had a look at the Ulysses cockpit, but while the shape was similar, it didn't really fit with the concept of a big ol' heavy bomber.

A two-man cockpit like an F-14, with the navigator behind the pilot, only really made sense for fast, streamlined aircraft where aerodynamics are important. Side-by-side made the most sense for a bomber.

Have a butchers at these.

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The E · **Reply #73 on:** March 27, 2009, 07:50:18 am

Now, that looks good.

Titan · **Reply #74 on:** March 27, 2009, 08:10:23 am

Wow, those guys look like they were flattened before getting put in.

But that's not your fault. I like the model, top notch.

Snail · **Reply #75 on:** March 27, 2009, 08:21:13 am

Looked better with one guy...

But the model is dead sexeh.

Dilmah G · **Reply #76 on:** March 27, 2009, 08:52:32 am

Looks good

Maybe work a bit on the pilots after you've nailed the rest of the ship, they looked flattened as Titan said, but that's minor really

AthlonBoy · **Reply #77 on:** March 27, 2009, 09:01:08 am

I doubt the pilots need any work. Let me show you what they'll look like from an in-game distance.

This render shows what it looks like, stationary, at point blank range. Unless you manually manoeuvre yourself in front of a friendly Boanerges when there are no enemies around, you will never see the cockpit any closer.

If anything I need to go in and delete all unnecesary polygons, and weld all the vertices together into one element. I've burned up a whole lot of polys on the pilots as is. (I'll keep the cockpit and pilots as separate sub-objects for LOD purposes.)

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Dilmah G · **Reply #78 on:** March 27, 2009, 09:07:19 am

Ah Fair enough

That looks fine

Snail · **Reply #79 on:** March 27, 2009, 09:27:55 am

Still... Instead of looking like 2 pilots side by side it looks like someone was trying to make a symmetrical model but mirrored it a bit too much on one side or something... Urgh...

The models great, but... Blargh...

Ignore me, I'm a dimwit.

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