[yuezhi]

wing commander? meh. they've collected more dust than us so it's no surprise if the criticisms are about cliche story or nerfed physics. tachyon and starshatter do come to mind unless they don't have an active and loyal community.

[JGZinv]

tachyon...   ....come to mind unless they don't have an active and loyal community.

Hey... We're still here after 12 years! We don't even have a decently moddable game.

[yuezhi]

um correct me if i'm wrong. does that mean tachyon isn't moddable which is why you're modding an older engine?

sry if i'm hijacking but this thread isn't going anywhere anyways. 

[karajorma]

Tell that to some of the Wing Commander community.  Apparently there's a vocal minority that feels like FS2 killed the genre.

It's getting pretty small by all accounts. It's pretty hard to be Anti-FS after Wing Commander Saga's release.

[JGZinv]

um correct me if i'm wrong. does that mean tachyon isn't moddable which is why you're modding an older engine?

Tachyon and FS2 came out in the same year 1999.  Tach was dropped like a hot potato by NovaLogic and the devs were forced
to release it half baked. Either way I've got the blessing of the main designers. been doing this 6 years, and I'll put another 6 in if
that's what it takes. I've modded Tach several times. But we don't have the benefit of any sources, like FS2 did. The exe is equivalent
of the frontier regions.

[-Sara-]

Update! Interplay Entertainment Corp. now filed a new trademark request also for FreeSpace. Might be just to keep the trademark, or maybe bigger plans. Probably the former.

US Serial for Trademark: 85765250

[Colonol Dekker]

Freespace Row?

With added purple IFF code?

[Turey]

Update! Interplay Entertainment Corp. now filed a new trademark request also for FreeSpace. Might be just to keep the trademark, or maybe bigger plans. Probably the former.

US Serial for Trademark: 85765250

For: (Based on Use in Commerce) Computer game software for personal computers and home video game consoles; Computer game software for use on mobile and cellular phones; Computer game software for use with personal computers, home video game consoles used with televisions and arcade-based video game consoles; Computer programs for video and computer games; Downloadable computer game programs; Downloadable computer game software via a global computer network and wireless devices(Based on Intent to Use) Cinematographic films featuring space combat and exploration, interstellar warfare and politics; Motion picture films about space combat and exploration, interstellar warfare and politics

Also For: Comic books; Graphic novels; Novels; Board games; Card games; Positionable printed toy figures for use in games; Positionable three dimensional toys for use in games; Positionable two dimensional toys for use in games; Tabletop games; Tabletop hobby battle games in the nature of battle, war and skirmish games, and fantasy games, and playing equipment sold as a unit therewith; Film production

Interplay, don't tease us like this! If you were just going by the trademark, it would sound like Interplay is planning an entire FreeSpace multi-media empire.

I would kill for a FreeSpace version of the new X-Wing Miniatures game.

[redsniper]

Probably just covering all of their bases I'm afraid.

[Mongoose]

Yeah, I'd imagine that assortment is fairly routine.

[-Sara-]

Probably just covering all of their bases I'm afraid.

Am fairly sure that's exactly it. They probably have got a list with trademarks they owned in the past 20 years and forward it to their attorneys to 'update' the trademark rights when they run out.

[Ypoknons]

When it's your establishing your own rights, you want to write it as widely as you get away with. Easier for you, easier also if you try to sell your rights. No need to go through an application process or sign an agreement again in the event you want to try something different.

[BengalTiger]

Tell that to some of the Wing Commander community.  Apparently there's a vocal minority that feels like FS2 killed the genre.

We didn't kill anything, this is what we're up to here when looking from an outside perspective:
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

[QuantumDelta]

One game to rule them all?
If FS2 killed the genre it's only because it perfected the genre (and everyone else was too scared to try to release competing games).

[MatthTheGeek]

FS2 didn't kill the genre. Interplay killed the genre by doing a very ****ty marketting of FS2, which lead to poor sales, which lead to the death of the genre. That is entirely different !

[Luis Dias]

How could an amazing game "kill" a genre? That would be ludicrous in its face. What happened was a combination of multiple events that all conspired to make the genre dead. If the problem was solely one of marketing then it would make little sense for any other company to abandon the genre. The wider market merely showed that it wanted more realistic complex and rich human environments, and not abstract shooters in empty spaces.

[karajorma]

The argument goes that Interplay's crappy marketing resulted in poor sales for the game. Other producers simply saw a AAA space game get poor sales and got scared of making space games.


Whether that's a good argument or not is another matter.