[ngld]

That window should give you the choice to either select a GOG installer OR an existing game directory (<steam library>\steamapps\common\Freespace 2 in your case).

If FS2 is installed through Steam, Knossos should be able to autodetect it and tell you that it can use that directory. If that doesn't work, manually selecting it should work as well.

[gamerman]

Nice combined installation and launcher.     I am one of the old gamer that has the retail game box and discs for both games.

[doabarrelroll]

Hey everyone, I've been playing this game for years and this community has been the greatest thing to ever happen to it.

Last year I downloaded Knossos for the first time and followed instructions, I beat a few mods and was great fun-until my computer broke. Now I've been trying to return to the game a few months later on a different, slightly older Windows 7 laptop. The retail game works perfectly fine, but Knossos keeps crashing after 5-30 seconds of opening it. I've tried searching around for any clues of fixing it but to no avail (I could just be blind and confused) so I decided to reach out on here to see if any of you have ever heard of a similar problem happen before. I'm getting a new computer in a month, so I guess fixing it isn't a massive priority (unless the same happens with the new one) but now I'm just curious why Knossos is unable to stay running. I'm hoping it's a simple solution, and would appreciate any thoughts/ideas. I can't wait to play mods again!

Thanks in advance everyone

[chief1983]

I have a Windows 7 laptop that missed the free upgrade deadline, if I can find time I will try to reproduce it and see if that's the culprit.

[Mito [PL]]

If it's worth something, Knossos works just fine with Windows 7. Maybe the solution is super simple, the classical theme of restarting your computer, and if that doesn't work, reinstalling the program.
Also, maybe your antivirus is somehow angry at Knossos and decides it's a faulty or dangerous application?

[doabarrelroll]

Thank you for the quick replies!

Unfortunately I had wished it was going to be that simple as well, when I first installed it on the newer Windows 10 system months back Norton originally blocked it and I gave it the permissions etc and Knossos worked perfectly fine afterwards.

On here I've tried re-installing Knossos twice, resetting, and even turned my antivirus completely off just to see if that could have been the culprit but nothing's changed. That's why I'm so curious now to what's causing this, it's certainly something I can't think of.

[wookieejedi]

Thank you for the quick replies!

Unfortunately I had wished it was going to be that simple as well, when I first installed it on the newer Windows 10 system months back Norton originally blocked it and I gave it the permissions etc and Knossos worked perfectly fine afterwards.

On here I've tried re-installing Knossos twice, resetting, and even turned my antivirus completely off just to see if that could have been the culprit but nothing's changed. That's why I'm so curious now to what's causing this, it's certainly something I can't think of.

Hmm strange. I run it on updated Windows 10 and it works. Do you have a joystick or some other controller plugged in? I side note, but I would recommend not using Norton, and simply using the Windows Defender. It's just as good, uses much less memory and isn't as picky or bloaty as Norton.

[neoterran]

I also ran into antivirus issues. I also ran into issues that required me to use ccleaner to scrub the registry, because I had installed Freespace 2 from gog first and then tried to feed it the installer, which was a mistake and led to the save button failing to work and games appearing and disappearing. A nightmare.

It also wouldn't work on my Mac with Mojave at all, but that's not uncommon for Mac so I moved to windows 10 on bootcamp after realizing it wouldn't work in Parallels either.

So it's not super straightforward for everyone, even tho I had a clean Boot Camp Windows 10 setup for it and star citizen. Which is a shame, since it keeps people from playing.

However, I managed after a lot of effort and trial and error to get it working, so now I'm enjoying playing Inferno again. And now (in 2019) I actually have hardware that has 0 performance issues with it,

so it's really like a blast from the past. I first was playing Freespace 2 back in 2002-3 so it's nice to bring it all back. And also hear my voice acting in Shivans 13 years later. lol !

Even with the problems it has atm it is a big step forward in usability and design from the older installers so keep working on it.

[doabarrelroll]

Again thanks for the replies, it is still doing the same thing, and the answer is no to the external joystick/controllers. Like I said I've gotten it to work months ago before on another laptop, and nothing is out of the ordinary that I can see on here, I'm just at a loss right now. Everything works on my computer, just for some reason Knossos isn't happy with something I can't figure out and refuses to stay open for longer then 30 seconds. I have another Windows 7 PC I haven't touched in forever which I will try out tomorrow (although this is still puzzling me and I'd like to know) and I'll see if it's the same for there too.

Thanks again for the ideas so far everyone and more are welcome!

[Yasuo]

Hi, I've encountered several issues, perhaps this can help you to improve Knossos.

#1
Diaspora Shattered Armistice and The Aeos Affair "IMAGES" in the "DETAILS" section don't seem to load, it just displays the dots and the left/right arrow, but the images stay black.

#2
If your internet is disconnected while downloading a mod, an error message is shown but the mod will be listed as installed although it certainly was not finished. Even after restart, Knossos still displays it as if it had been downloaded successfully.

#3
Clicking Install on "Uncharted Territory" resulted in this error message: "A critical error occurred! Knossos might not work correctly until you restart it."
I immediately looked in ~/.config/knossos/log.txt with Knossos still running but there was nothing apart from the startup lines - the file had not been written since starting Knossos (do I have to close the error message so the log is being written to?). After restarting Knossos, I tried installing it again, but got the same message. I could install other mods, so there seems to be an issue with "Uncharted Territory". On the third try, I managed to get a log:

Code: [Select]

INFO:MainThread:launcher.main: Running Knossos 0.13.3 on PyQt5 and Python 3.6.7 (default, Oct 22 2018, 11:32:17)
[GCC 8.2.0].
INFO:MainThread:launcher.main: OpenSSL version: OpenSSL 1.1.1  11 Sep 2018
WARNING:MainThread:integration.init: Failed to specify Unity version. Most likely Unity is not available.
INFO:MainThread:integration.init: Activating Unity integration...
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "Wings of Dawn Builds" 17.0.1 (fso-wod)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20180302 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20180419 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20171029 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20180924 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20180921 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20180929 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190306 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190309 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190313 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190322 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190323 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190324 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190329 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-4:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190402 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-12:repo.query: Repo.query(): Expected Spec but got Version instead! (Version('3.8.0-3', partial=True))
WARNING:Thread-12:repo.query: Repo.query(): Expected Spec but got Version instead! (Version('3.7.2', partial=True))
INFO:Thread-1:tasks.work1: File "fs2_open_3_8_0_x64.AppImage" is left over.
INFO:Thread-1:tasks.work1: File "fs2_open_3_8_0_x64-FASTDBG.AppImage" is left over.
INFO:Thread-10:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.global.ssl.fastly.net/storage/de/fb/652c67d50c5ea0a871f4ac1422d6c073813848479b08464ac38d0e7de269.png"...
INFO:Thread-10:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.global.ssl.fastly.net/storage/10/9d/5bbbaea5f8fb6da7601e0b1622fa2eb0375357321ecd54e60496d56c7692.png"...
INFO:Thread-9:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.global.ssl.fastly.net/storage/72/a5/316d08a743a35dc144284b9fb9a466ee259e0b22756cd2a032986951527e.png"...
INFO:Thread-9:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.global.ssl.fastly.net/storage/a7/ef/48f47a06031b010b7acf9ca2d5dececb7af9177ee72f7ba5a7a0288f205a.png"...
INFO:Thread-3:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.org/storage/2b/9a/7617fd8dd91d4d8ca859586faab8c594bcab0136458e4d5136b3590cc52b"...
INFO:Thread-9:util.download: Downloading "https://cf.fsnebula.org/storage/3a/49/693b3bb8f9c4337871f217de44ce2c8582f8b4a7f371c787af63ee60a820"...
INFO:Thread-4:util.download: Downloading "https://porphyrion.feralhosting.com/datacorder/nebula/75/04/92c49e1e228c093f2ac4aa6cea6f0caf010a83f548415f33dc3e5a687802"...
INFO:Thread-8:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.org/storage/47/35/00db5982a595315870d97251b815fc3b3ed200a346d16a77880ed2c5bf02"...
INFO:Thread-6:util.download: Downloading "https://cf.fsnebula.org/storage/78/7c/cdf1e449ac4b1cfc7b9c849aa8b8938fecfd1e69beee54c61c1bef038bd8"...
INFO:Thread-10:util.download: Downloading "https://cf.fsnebula.org/storage/7e/5a/345b8145e6598d2e53a9e838706db0dc645d4d0ecf1312a73d142cf6d8d0"...
INFO:Thread-5:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.org/storage/45/41/8e0cf2c98ab621bd931ead1755da73ed545574bd6dff6cf3f79a9538906c"...
INFO:Thread-2:util.download: Downloading "https://cf.fsnebula.org/storage/32/7a/23e37b8e4614c9d96d12b1cd47608a5f8c94f0cf768851e9d0966b7bbfb8"...
INFO:Thread-1:util.download: Downloading "https://cf.fsnebula.org/storage/24/5d/8ffd571bd7453769cc55482fb3eb72602086c2da3668aa3b5579440b5ad5"...
INFO:Thread-7:util.download: Downloading "https://porphyrion.feralhosting.com/datacorder/nebula/28/ac/236ff8d2ed0ecb86ff1879e4cc76de469326464973f915d5c4b2942b74ea"...
WARNING:Thread-13:repo.query: Repo.query(): Expected Spec but got Version instead! (Version('3.8.1-20171118', partial=True))
INFO:Thread-7:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.global.ssl.fastly.net/storage/8b/13/9c77cf24c757f91aca01e19cade8ca6f64d0f2309a333650adfc2ec10308.png"...
INFO:Thread-4:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.global.ssl.fastly.net/storage/ec/cc/0bf23e028c26d5175ff52d003bff85b0a17b0ddfc1130d65bdf6d36f6324.png"...
INFO:Thread-1:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.global.ssl.fastly.net/storage/07/74/28c36f904bd981711fe99b91fa6f3a698e4785545f16a8d03a5fdadcdd8a.png"...
INFO:Thread-1:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.global.ssl.fastly.net/storage/11/0c/5c000e879c9726baf993f530e8a03196509e9b19d3bdf53a754056c0874a.jpg"...
INFO:Thread-7:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.global.ssl.fastly.net/storage/38/9e/389b1fbf74a148923e7cecfc444aa9212a0bc00552e96ee81744a510541e.png"...
INFO:Thread-4:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.org/storage/0d/e7/bf64bcdea9a9c115969cfb784e1ca457d24a7c2da4fc6f213521c3bb6abb.png"...
INFO:Thread-7:util.download: Downloading "https://porphyrion.feralhosting.com/datacorder/nebula/3a/3d/f022c8f53cb3a15ab8bdeb33abfff71d085b9589bf011abffc52e759592e"...
INFO:Thread-2:util.download: Downloading "https://cf.fsnebula.org/storage/d8/75/197cee70110437ee6fe6dd64677b5345344c94fd94f2dd2b42a10b15278d"...
INFO:Thread-4:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.org/storage/c9/ae/be5071ec5866c660d4bb10805e10813c66dee36acd5654922e77c91c4ca1"...
INFO:Thread-10:util.download: Downloading "http://scp.indiegames.us/builds/nightly/20171118_dfdfd59/nightly_20171118_dfdfd59-builds-Linux.tar.gz"...
INFO:Thread-9:util.download: Downloading "https://porphyrion.feralhosting.com/datacorder/nebula/97/94/2d9d83fdcce58a904ab1d04196183e3ef67faf1e93d54dc4b01aa0e2ae55"...
INFO:Thread-5:util.download: Downloading "https://porphyrion.feralhosting.com/datacorder/nebula/ee/41/b4b6ee4509b451e7716b884da1a43286334dc54c628fb8a54b967317f3f4"...
INFO:Thread-6:util.download: Downloading "https://porphyrion.feralhosting.com/datacorder/nebula/5a/05/958363e6a4cc7d943c1a89170f8d00a9967d013f6c325c799ff4bd1ad788"...
INFO:Thread-1:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.org/storage/13/b4/228c58bd350f3ab9c4a836fb3382d488f2b5f193d1aa6dee560f77be2783"...
INFO:Thread-3:util.download: Downloading "https://cf.fsnebula.org/storage/7b/34/e962a5dfdfafc16904f245a38f6460cb36061f544ca77ac3b138794465bb"...
INFO:Thread-8:util.download: Downloading "https://fsnebula.org/storage/c8/e1/69664cb515d4a8c02dfafde987cc931e1d55e57ff1f6022558e117323fda"...
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "Wings of Dawn Builds" 17.0.1 (fso-wod)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20180302 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20180419 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20171029 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20180924 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20180921 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20180929 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190306 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190309 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190313 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190322 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190323 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190324 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190329 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
WARNING:Thread-8:repo.add_mod: Mod <Mod "FSO" 3.8.1-20190402 (FSO)> is empty, ignoring it!
ERROR:MainThread:launcher.my_excepthook: UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION!
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/knossos/knossos/web.py", line 284, in install
    windows.ModInstallWindow(mod, pkgs)
  File "/usr/share/knossos/knossos/windows.py", line 567, in __init__
    self.show_packages()
  File "/usr/share/knossos/knossos/windows.py", line 585, in show_packages
    all_pkgs = center.mods.process_pkg_selection(pkgs)
  File "/usr/share/knossos/knossos/repo.py", line 336, in process_pkg_selection
    deps = pkg.resolve_deps()
  File "/usr/share/knossos/knossos/repo.py", line 738, in resolve_deps
    version = util.Spec(version)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/semantic_version/base.py", line 449, in __init__
    subspecs = [self.parse(spec) for spec in specs_strings]
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/semantic_version/base.py", line 449, in <listcomp>
    subspecs = [self.parse(spec) for spec in specs_strings]
  File "/usr/share/knossos/knossos/util.py", line 886, in parse
    res.append(semantic_version.SpecItem(spec_text))
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/semantic_version/base.py", line 393, in __init__
    kind, spec = self.parse(requirement_string)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/semantic_version/base.py", line 408, in parse
    raise ValueError("Invalid requirement specification: %r" % requirement_string)
ValueError: Invalid requirement specification: '==~3.7.2-'
I haven't installed Wings of Dawn - is this a dependency for "Uncharted Territory" or is there another error?

Btw: I had to read till page 15 to find where Knossos has been installed to, so I propose to add a "Open Knossos log directory" button to the error dialog (like the Open Debug log functionality for the mods) to open ~/.config/knossos/ or the respective folder on win/mac.

[jr2]

@Anyone who missed the Windows 10 free upgrade deadline:


It still works.  Just click to download the "Create Windows 10 Installation Media" Tool on the Microsoft site, and then click "Upgrade this PC now".  That's it.  Don't forget to run O&O Shutup10 or W10Privacy afterwards if you're worried about MS data collection.  As for disabling forced updates, look into editing Group Policy via the Registry; that should work just fine (assuming you can't get to it via the policy editor because you're on Home edition or something).

[Spoon]

Not entirely sure why this is directly relevant to Knossos, but can confirm it still works.
'''Upgraded''' my laptop from 7 to 10 yesterday after reading this post without any issue.

Still happy with 7, pretty sad I'm going to be forced to switch to 10 but atleast it won't cost me any money. (But I'm still going to ride out 7 for a bit longer on my desktop)
So thanks for the heads up, jr2.

[jr2]

  Would recommend doing an upgrade then dropping back down to 7 just so the hardware is registered with a Win 10 license in case MS changes their mind.  To avoid too much hassle, you could shrink the system partition down a bit in Disk Management (run diskmgmt.msc), make a new partition, dual-boot another copy of 7, upgrade that to 10, then nuke that partition and re-extend the system partition. 

Sounds like a pain, but much easier than upgrading over your primary OS then reinstalling 7

Then again, if MS hasn't closed the upgrade yet, they may never.  However, with Win 7 support ending, I'm thinking some bean counter will see a profit opportunity, hence my suggestion.

EDIT: Any mods, feel free to split this out if you think it's prudent. 

[Autohummer]

Is there any way to use both a HOTAS and foot pedals like I could with the old style setup? The current Knossos only recognises one controller. Dropping x360ce in the directory with the Knossos.exe file doesn't seem to work either. Sorry if it has been asked and answered before.

EDIT: Knossos did recognise the x360ce controller but the FS2/WoD it opens don't.

[TheBigCore]

Are there any screenshots of the newest versions of Knossos?  The original post only has images of Knossos 0.7.

[Yasuo]

Are there any screenshots of the newest versions of Knossos?  The original post only has images of Knossos 0.7.

Apart from the version number, the optional title bar and the added Troubleshooting menu point, it looks exactly alike.

[Paraquat]

Hello!
I have a problem with Knossos file association. I downloaded it, made sure ~5 times during multiple reinstalls that I check to associate FSO:// links to Knossos but still, I keep getting this error after I try to download Media_VPS through it. The program itself seems to work properly. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, and thumbs up for all this awesome work!

[woutersmits]

how to fix this error
im useing linux mint

[attachment eaten by a Shivan]

[niffiwan]

You can edit this file: /usr/bin/knossos

To look like this:

Code: [Select]

#!/bin/bash
exec python3 /usr/share/knossos/knossos/__main__.py

You will need super-user privileges to edit the file, for instance run this command from a terminal window.

Code: [Select]

$ sudo gedit /usr/bin/knossos


[woutersmits]

nowigetthis

[attachment eaten by a Shivan]