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Title: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on October 30, 2015, 10:05:06 pm
So I got the CH pedals and the Saitek X52 throttle. I wish to test them out in this game alongside my CH Fighterstick. Problem is is that I'm not able to configure any of them in the options menu and I can't even my craft with the joystick. I'm willing to do some troubleshotting of course as I would love to put my HOTAS setup to the test.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: niffiwan on October 30, 2015, 10:10:10 pm
Unfortunately WCS:DD doesn't support multiple joystick devices.  You'll need to use some software (like ppjoy?) to combine all the devices into a single virtual device.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Dragon on October 31, 2015, 08:02:37 am
If you had the CH throttle (or were willing to give up throttle altogether), then CH Control Manager can combine the controllers into a single device. Unfortunately, a Saitek throttle won't be supported by the CH CM.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on October 31, 2015, 01:10:09 pm
Alright, I've found a virtual application called vJoy that I'm trying to install (even though it's taking a long while to install the thing). Will this work for the rig that I'm using right now?
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on October 31, 2015, 02:43:25 pm
I've decided to remove the Saitek throttle for Wing Commander Saga. Now I want to know is how do I configure my fighterstick and pedals to where it can work together in Wing Commander Saga on CH manager. Anybody got a map or some instructions for how can I achieve this?
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on October 31, 2015, 03:42:48 pm
Or at the very least, how do I get the scripts for Freespace 2 to work and for the joystick and pedals to work on that script line as well.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Dragon on October 31, 2015, 06:50:16 pm
Try the "map wizard" in the Control Manager. It's pretty easy to use. The map it produces should work without problems.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: jr2 on October 31, 2015, 10:00:42 pm
I think there's a link in my sig with tutorials for getting vJoy set up if that helps...

EDIT: Yeah, the link called UJR / vJoy, check that out (uses both UJR and vJoy together).
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on November 01, 2015, 05:47:23 pm
Alright, trying JR2's Vjoy and UjJR option. Now I've configured my joystick (not my pedals and Saitek throttle that I'm still trying to get configured) Now in the instructions list, I'm at the part where I'm wondering for the part in the instructions saying Start -> joy.cpl. What does that mean exactly and how can I get there please?
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on November 01, 2015, 05:54:20 pm
How do I map those virtual buttons again? I'm at the part where I'm trying to figure out how to configure my pedals and throttle along with configuring those virtual buttons using Vjoy and UJR.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on November 01, 2015, 06:00:11 pm
I have the joystick working on UJR, though the virtual buttons haven't been mapped yet and I still wish to add the throttle and pedals as well. Currently stuck at step Start -> joy.cpl.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: jr2 on November 01, 2015, 07:48:33 pm
Start - run {or just hold Win key and press R, then release both}- joy.cpl - hit the Enter key

Directly opens up Windows' Control Panel Joystick / Controller settings.



Here's a list of the standard ones (I find appwiz.cpl most convenient {opens up Add/Remove Programs})

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Panel_(Windows)#Standard_applets (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Panel_(Windows)#Standard_applets)

Another useful list is the list of Microsoft System Console shortcuts:

http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/63945-msc-microsoft-system-console-list-description.html

Such as diskmgmt.msc (opens up the Disk Management Console directly)

Between those two, you can open most system settings directly.

However, the author of that tut should have clarified that it was just the controller settings part of the control panel.  :nod:
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on November 01, 2015, 08:03:17 pm
Alright, I got the thing set there with Vjoy, thank you. Now before I can map the virtual stick, I would like to ask of how can I get my pedals and throttle to work on it as well.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on November 01, 2015, 08:07:44 pm
How I can use all three of them in game.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on November 01, 2015, 08:51:38 pm
Try the "map wizard" in the Control Manager. It's pretty easy to use. The map it produces should work without problems.

Now I'm back to using the pedals and joystick and I had created a map wizard and profile for it on CH manager. How do I activate it and use it in game?
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on November 01, 2015, 08:56:18 pm
Btw, I'm happy to be receiving help on the matter. Sorry for annoying, just that I'm extremely inexperienced in regards to this so I had little choice but to seek help from smarter folks such as yourselves.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: jr2 on November 02, 2015, 01:42:15 am
You need to make one virtual joystick, with enough buttons and axis to handle the input from all 3 of your devices, and then map your devices to it, and use the virtual joystick in WCS.

So, see how many buttons total you have, and how many axis, and configure your virtual joystick.  Then map that actual buttons & axis to that joystick.  If you search youtube for your setup and UJR / vjoy, you will probably find a tutorial of some type.  Like "ch pedals x52 vjoy ujr" or something would be a good youtube search.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on November 02, 2015, 01:43:01 am
Also you can only use the first five axes.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: jr2 on November 02, 2015, 01:44:30 am
Well, stick has two, throttle has one, and pedals are another, which is 4, so that should cover them all, correct?  Or is the hatswitch 2 axis as well?
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Dragon on November 02, 2015, 09:00:25 am
Try the "map wizard" in the Control Manager. It's pretty easy to use. The map it produces should work without problems.

Now I'm back to using the pedals and joystick and I had created a map wizard and profile for it on CH manager. How do I activate it and use it in game?
Once you have the map, save it. Then, there is a "download" button in the CM that will set the joysticks to use the map. You may need to set the joystick in the FSO launcher to "Control Manager Device 1" as well. Once that is done, just start the game. It should recognize everything.
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on November 10, 2015, 04:11:02 pm
Alright, sorry for the long reply, but since than I've decided to send my Saitek throttle back. Right now I'm looking for a CH throttle right now, preferably one that is with USB. Also, I'm kind of ticked because thanks to picking today as the day to leave for fun, I lost the chance to get a CH throttle with USB under 80 dollars.  :mad:
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Nuke87654 on November 22, 2015, 09:20:48 am
Alright folks, I got myself a CH Pro throttle to ensure that all of my HOTAS can be setup in the CH Flight Manager. Now, both the fighterstick and pro throttle work in Wing Commander Saga under the mapping, but my pedals still do not work. How can this be fixed?
Title: Re: having issues with joystick Hotas setup
Post by: Dragon on November 22, 2015, 11:48:28 am
Did you combine all 3 controllers? Do they respond in the CM? Joystick should be the "X" and "Y" axes, pedals the "R" axis and the throttle the "Z" axis. At least that's how it is on my config.