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Offline MatthTheGeek

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We'll see what we can do. but keep in mind, this game was never designed for mouse in the first place. And during the beta we got overwhelming negative feedback for the original FS style Mouse controls...
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...I have to words to describe how silly that sounds to me.
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Offline KeldorKatarn

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As I said, we'll see. Currently the original mouse controls are not even part of the build anymore. The UI doesn't offer any possibility to switch between two different mouse control options so this isn't as easy as just putting both in and that's it.

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Obligatory "don't fork next time"
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
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batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline KeldorKatarn

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Obligatory "don't fork next time"

Obligatory "Nobody forces you to play the game..."

 
OK guys calm down....
the new mouse control is bad for me, but i try again my joystick ;)
But i think in the near future the WCS team has an clue what is to do ;)

 

Offline KeldorKatarn

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As I said, I'll see what we can do about an alternative mouse control option. No promises though.

 

Offline jr2

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Umm.. hot-toggle, bindable to a key, IMHO would be the best shot.

 

Offline KeldorKatarn

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Umm.. hot-toggle, bindable to a key, IMHO would be the best shot.

Leave it to us ;)

 

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:)  EDIT: BTW, for whatever reason, touchpad doesn't pick it up.  Maybe I have to enable the mouse or something.  Got through mission 3 with numpad.  Liking this game!

 

Offline Spidey-

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Yeah, I definitely prefer the FS style mouse control. However, I don't find it that bad actually. Oh I hated it for sure at the start and couldn't hit anything. But now I've gotten used to it and am aiming almost as well as with a joystick.
**Joystick deadzone corresponds also to mouse deadzone, but you really need to bring it down to 1 or 2 pips to get good control
Certainly there're annoying bits like not being able to see the cursor over a bright background (dotted line from cursor to reticle would help), or coming out of autopilot into a wild slew. I'm actually quite impressed by how well the control scheme's been implemented.  I think it'll be much easier for newcomers to get used to than FS mouse controls. So kudos to the team.
But of course, if you could make an option in the launcher for FS controls, I can go back to my mouse/numpad combo and start wasting cats with horrible efficiency...

 

Offline Quanto

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You guys need to go out and buy some Flight Sticks. Jesus.
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Hey, it's 2012. We're no archaeologists. Flight sticks were cool back in the 90s.
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline MetalDestroyer

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Hey, it's 2012. We're no archaeologists. Flight sticks were cool back in the 90s.

And they're still cool. Go buy a joystick ! :)

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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When can I expect the money you'll send me to buy it ?
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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You guys need to go out and buy some Flight Sticks. Jesus.

So I can play WCS alone. No, I think not.
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Offline Quanto

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You guys need to go out and buy some Flight Sticks. Jesus.

So I can play WCS alone. No, I think not.
Okay, I'm curious, how would a Flight-Stick make you play alone? Aren't you already playing alone? Its a single-player game. Even then, what about a Flight Stick prevents you from attempting multiplayer? Your logic escapes me.

Oh and Matt, just get a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, they're modern sticks, 30 Bucks, and of good construction. They may not have force feedback, but they're good solid sticks.
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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That's still 30 bucks I don't want to spend, thank you very much. I have a perfect input device in my hand here (no pun intended) and I don't intend to buy something I will use just for one mod that some people have managed to convince me to not play anyway.
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline Tolwyn

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That's still 30 bucks I don't want to spend, thank you very much. I have a perfect input device in my hand here (no pun intended) and I don't intend to buy something I will use just for one mod that some people have managed to convince me to not play anyway.

Suit yourself. We are not forcing you to do anything anyway. :)
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Offline Quanto

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That's still 30 bucks I don't want to spend, thank you very much. I have a perfect input device in my hand here (no pun intended) and I don't intend to buy something I will use just for one mod that some people have managed to convince me to not play anyway.
Somebody is being a negative nancy.
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Offline MetalDestroyer

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That's still 30 bucks I don't want to spend, thank you very much. I have a perfect input device in my hand here (no pun intended) and I don't intend to buy something I will use just for one mod that some people have managed to convince me to not play anyway.

Why don't you see the good thing to have a joystick ? It's not only for SAGA, but all the mods for Freespace 2 or all games that support Joystick. And 30 € is very cheap and if you can afford to get one with force feedback, you can't go back to mouse control. Count all the time you will play with it, you won't waste your money.