[Faldaar]

Hi,
I just installed the WC Saga Prologue. As a fan of the original WC Series, I am really excited of this remake.
Unfortunatly I always crash in the first mission when I have to Autopilot back to the Carrier.
I tried different sound and grafic settings but its still crashing

Here is what I got in the errorlog.txt (only posting it once, tehre are multiple of this entries in the log):

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wcsaga caused an Access Violation in module wcsaga.exe at 001b:004d3ef8.
Exception handler called in FreeSpace 2 Main Thread.
Error occurred at 5/12/2007 12:32:32.
E:\Wing Commander Saga Prologue\wcsaga.exe, run by martin.
1 processor(s), type 586.
1280 MBytes physical memory.
Read from location b48c4f04 caused an access violation.

Registers:
EAX=03c49f78 CS=001b EIP=004d3ef8 EFLGS=00210293
EBX=c572fb86 SS=0023 ESP=0012f89c EBP=0012f9bc
ECX=03c4ad20 DS=0023 ESI=b0c7ae80 FS=003b
EDX=0012f8a4 ES=0023 EDI=02f95e70 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 8c 30 0c 01 00 00 85 c9 7c 54 8d 94 30 d0 00
Stack dump:
0012f89c: 0109c38c 0109c304 bccbf580 bef71800 c0346186 bccbf580 bef71800 c0346186
0012f8bc: 3f800000 03540353 83560355 83540353 3f800000 03520351 03560355 83520351
0012f8dc: 3f800000 00422898 0012f9b0 01389d40 00000182 00000006 0109c334 0109c328
0012f8fc: c572fb86 006730e5 e0000000 00000000 00000000 0000ffff b620a3ae 40555e8c
0012f91c: 0007137f 0012f954 0066be36 0000007f 0007007f 0109c328 00000000 c572fb86
0012f93c: c23180c7 3fe5488c 00000001 00000007 b620a3ae 40555e8c 0109c304 0066bc72
0012f95c: 00603b0e 00000000 00000000 00000000 01373d18 00603e88 0109c304 00000000
0012f97c: 3f92bd92 0109c304 017dd594 420a9067 01389ca8 3f800000 3f92bd92 3f3b67b0
0012f99c: 00000001 017dd594 00000001 3f92bd92 3f800000 c3807d19 c69cc1df 469c8255
0012f9bc: 0012f9f0 00491d7a 00000006 ffffffff 0109c304 00000001 01389ca8 0109c44c
0012f9dc: 00000000 0109c334 00000006 01389ca8 017dd594 0109c304 00428443 0109c304
0012f9fc: 3f832000 0109c38c 0109c358 0109c304 c572fb86 0109c304 00000001 00000000
0012fa1c: 0109c38c 0109c358 0109c304 c572fb86 00001000 0012ff34 00000001 00000002
0012fa3c: 0109c304 00428172 0109c304 00428b2c 00428b57 0109c304 3f832000 00000100
0012fa5c: 00001000 0012ff34 00000001 0040539a 3f832000 00000001 004059a2 020f4238
0012fa7c: 00000002 ffffffff ffffffff 00000400 00000000 007f0c7f 02c09810 00417abf
0012fa9c: 00405f6c 3f832000 00000419 00400000 00000002 0012ff34 00406080 00000000
0012fabc: 00407f73 00000001 00000006 004dc4e6 00000002 0012fb34 00000000 004089f0
0012fadc: 00000020 00000021 4ff88000 352fa000 76db0000 5d8e0000 7ffe0000 7c636000
0012fafc: 00408ae8 00142374 616d7469 00000000 7ffdc000 02000200 575c3a45 20676e69
0012fb1c: 6d6d6f43 65646e61 61532072 50206167 6f6c6f72 00657567 61736377 652e6167
0012fb3c: 02006578 02100210 02140214 03120210 02100210 02140210 02100312 02e80178
0012fb5c: 02100210 03010301 03010301 03010301 03010301 03010301 03010301 00000002
0012fb7c: 0012fbb0 02e80000 7c920732 00000007 02e807d8 02e80000 02e848b8 0012fb88
0012fb9c: 02e80000 0012fdcc 7c91ee18 7c920738 ffffffff 7c920732 7c9206ab 7c9206eb
0012fbbc: 02e84898 0000001f 02e84898 00000003 02e80718 02e80000 00000000 0012fbc8
0012fbdc: 02e80640 0012fe0c 02e80000 0012fc1c 02e80000 7c920732 00000007 02e807d8
0012fbfc: 02e80000 02e84880 0012fbf4 00140778 0012fe38 7c91ee18 7c920738 ffffffff
0012fc1c: 7c920732 7c9206ab 7c9206eb 02490978 02490978 7ffdc001 7c9206eb 02490c30
0012fc3c: 0012ff14 00000000 0012fc78 0012fc7c 02e80000 7c91d4ea 7c9280ff ffffffff
0012fc5c: 0012fc90 00000000 0012fcb4 00001000 00000004 02e80000 02e87000 02e80000
0012fc7c: 02e86b20 0012fcb0 02e86b20 02e86b20 0012fcbc 7c927e77 02e80000 02e87298
0012fc9c: 02e86b20 000000ed 02e80000 00000740 00000760 02e823a0 000001ad 0112fea4
0012fcbc: 0012fea8 7c927c0c 02e80000 00000001 7c927bf5 02e80608 7c927bb0 00000000
0012fcdc: 00000770 02e86b28 02e80260 00000010 00140178 02e801a0 7c844816 00000008
0012fcfc: 00000000 02e80178 02e86b28 02e80178 02e84838 02e86b10 0014d2d0 00000008
0012fd1c: 02e80188 00000020 02e80178 02e801a0 02e86b28 02e801a0 00000008 02e82830
0012fd3c: 02e80178 02e803a8 00140178 0012fd64 0014d2b0 00000002 02e83d90 0012fd68
0012fd5c: 00000000 00140178 02e84878 0014d2d8 0012fd7c 00000000 7c9205c8 00000007
0012fd7c: 0012fe48 7c920551 02e81138 00000008 00000001 00000008 00000008 02e82fb0
0012fd9c: 02e864f0 02e86b20 02e83868 02e86b20 02e86b20 02e86b10 02e803a8 00000038
0012fdbc: 02004158 02e80000 0012fbbc 00140178 0012fe08 7c91ee18 7c9206f0 ffffffff
0012fddc: 7c9206eb 00667c45 02e80000 00000000 00000030 02e84898 0000001f 02e84898
0012fdfc: 00000000 02e86af0 0012fbfc 0012fe50 00666c18 006c87d8 ffffffff 0012fe5c
0012fe1c: 00667b3c 00000021 00667037 00000021 02490978 00000000 00000000 000000e9
0012fe3c: 000000ed 00000000 02e86b28 02490978 02490978 7ffdc001 006c09e0 00000000
0012fe5c: 00000001 7c80977a 024915e8 00000000 02e80000 02e80000 00000740 00000760
0012fe7c: 000000ef 01000758 00000778 02490a6c 0012fcd4 0012fcd8 0012fef0 0012fef4
0012fe9c: 7c91ee18 7c927bb8 ffffffff 7c927bb0 0066aa58 02e80000 00000001 02e86b28
0012febc: 00000770 616d7469 00000764 7c920945 7c92094e 616d7469 00020000 7ffdc000
0012fedc: 7ffdc000 616d7469 7ffdc000 7c911005 0012fed0 0012ffb0 0012ff30 7c91ee18
0012fefc: 7c920970 7c98e4c0 7c8021b5 7c802011 616d7469 00000000 ffffffff 006dae18
0012ff1c: 0012fb04 0012f4c0 0012ffb0 00666c18 006c66a0 00000000 0012ffc0 006671d9
0012ff3c: 00400000 00000000 00142374 0000000a 616d7469 2d207370 7ffdc000 00000000
0012ff5c: 00142374 c038fbd8 00000044 00144798 001436a0 001447f8 00000000 00000000
0012ff7c: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0012ff9c: ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff 0012ff4c 805824fd 0012ffe0 00666c18 006c87b0
0012ffbc: 00000000 0012fff0 7c816fd7 616d7469 2d207370 7ffdc000 8054a938 0012ffc8
0012ffdc: 878533e8 ffffffff 7c839aa8 7c816fe0 00000000 00000000 00000000 006670f9
0012fffc: 00000000

Module list: names, addresses, sizes, time stamps and file times:
E:\Wing Commander Saga Prologue\wcsaga.exe, loaded at 0x00400000 - 3551232 bytes - 4592369d - file date is 12/27/2006 04:02:26
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wrap_oal.dll, loaded at 0x03060000 - 413696 bytes - 44b6c3e5 - file date is 5/11/2007 21:10:06
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctagent.dll, loaded at 0x03d50000 - 57344 bytes - 3f4dc143 - file date is 8/28/2003 10:45:56
C:\WINDOWS\system32\OpenAL32.dll, loaded at 0x10000000 - 86016 bytes - 43cc4464 - file date is 5/11/2007 21:10:06
C:\WINDOWS\system32\NETAPI32.dll, loaded at 0x597d0000 - 332288 bytes - 44e460fc - file date is 8/17/2006 14:28:44
C:\WINDOWS\system32\uxtheme.dll, loaded at 0x5b0f0000 - 219648 bytes - 411096c1 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:38
C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMCTL32.dll, loaded at 0x5d450000 - 617472 bytes - 44ef1b67 - file date is 8/25/2006 17:46:48
C:\WINDOWS\system32\iertutil.dll, loaded at 0x5dca0000 - 266752 bytes - 4535359a - file date is 10/17/2006 12:57:20
C:\WINDOWS\system32\OPENGL32.dll, loaded at 0x5f0d0000 - 713728 bytes - 411096d9 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll, loaded at 0x61410000 - 1162240 bytes - 45516526 - file date is 11/7/2006 22:03:36
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spacklsp.dll, loaded at 0x63700000 - 114688 bytes - 436743de - file date is 11/1/2005 11:30:56
C:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll, loaded at 0x66710000 - 348672 bytes - 4110965e - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:22
C:\WINDOWS\system32\HID.DLL, loaded at 0x68d90000 - 20992 bytes - 4110965a - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:22
C:\WINDOWS\system32\GLU32.dll, loaded at 0x68fc0000 - 122880 bytes - 41109654 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:22
C:\Programme\Gemeinsame Dateien\Microsoft Shared\Speech\sapi.dll, loaded at 0x6dbd0000 - 741376 bytes - 41109698 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8thk.dll, loaded at 0x6de80000 - 8192 bytes - 41109646 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:18
C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8.dll, loaded at 0x6de90000 - 1179648 bytes - 41109646 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:18
C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll, loaded at 0x719b0000 - 247296 bytes - 41109724 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:30
C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll, loaded at 0x719f0000 - 19968 bytes - 41109710 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:40
C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll, loaded at 0x71a00000 - 19968 bytes - 41109706 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:40
C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll, loaded at 0x71a10000 - 82944 bytes - 41109705 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:40
C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.dll, loaded at 0x71a30000 - 24576 bytes - 41109712 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:40
C:\WINDOWS\system32\DINPUT.dll, loaded at 0x72210000 - 163328 bytes - 41109663 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:18
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv, loaded at 0x72c80000 - 20992 bytes - 3b7e5676 - file date is 8/18/2001 14:00:00
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv, loaded at 0x72c90000 - 23552 bytes - 411096cf - file date is 8/4/2004 00:58:28
C:\WINDOWS\system32\DDRAW.dll, loaded at 0x736d0000 - 266240 bytes - 41109654 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:18
C:\WINDOWS\system32\DCIMAN32.dll, loaded at 0x73b30000 - 8704 bytes - 41109653 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:18
C:\WINDOWS\system32\KsUser.dll, loaded at 0x73e40000 - 4096 bytes - 41109678 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:24
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dsound.dll, loaded at 0x73e70000 - 367616 bytes - 41109688 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:18
C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSCTF.dll, loaded at 0x746a0000 - 294400 bytes - 411096b6 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:26
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msctfime.ime, loaded at 0x75250000 - 177152 bytes - 411096b7 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:55:28
C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.DLL, loaded at 0x76330000 - 110080 bytes - 41109671 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:22
C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHFOLDER.dll, loaded at 0x76730000 - 25088 bytes - 411096a3 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll, loaded at 0x76af0000 - 178176 bytes - 411096df - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:38
C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll, loaded at 0x76bf0000 - 176640 bytes - 411096cc - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:38
C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll, loaded at 0x76c50000 - 144384 bytes - 4110966c - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:22
C:\WINDOWS\system32\iphlpapi.dll, loaded at 0x76d20000 - 95744 bytes - 446dc39e - file date is 5/19/2006 15:09:50
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rtutils.dll, loaded at 0x76e40000 - 44032 bytes - 4110969c - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasman.dll, loaded at 0x76e50000 - 61440 bytes - 41109694 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\TAPI32.dll, loaded at 0x76e70000 - 181760 bytes - 411096b6 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:36
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasapi32.dll, loaded at 0x76ea0000 - 236544 bytes - 41109690 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CLBCATQ.DLL, loaded at 0x76f90000 - 498688 bytes - 42e5be91 - file date is 7/26/2005 06:39:44
C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMRes.dll, loaded at 0x77010000 - 846848 bytes - 41109660 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:18
C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll, loaded at 0x770f0000 - 553472 bytes - 411096d4 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:32
C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.2982_x-ww_ac3f9c03\comctl32.dll, loaded at 0x773a0000 - 1054208 bytes - 44ef1b63 - file date is 8/25/2006 17:46:44
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll, loaded at 0x774b0000 - 1285120 bytes - 42e5be94 - file date is 7/26/2005 06:39:50
C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.DLL, loaded at 0x778f0000 - 988672 bytes - 4110969b - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll, loaded at 0x77a50000 - 602624 bytes - 41109643 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:18
C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll, loaded at 0x77af0000 - 57344 bytes - 411096af - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:26
C:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll, loaded at 0x77ba0000 - 18944 bytes - 41109675 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:24
C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSACM32.dll, loaded at 0x77bb0000 - 72192 bytes - 4110969b - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:26
C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll, loaded at 0x77bd0000 - 18944 bytes - 411096bf - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:38
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll, loaded at 0x77be0000 - 343040 bytes - 4110971e - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:30
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msv1_0.dll, loaded at 0x77c40000 - 129536 bytes - 4110971b - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:30
C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll, loaded at 0x77d10000 - 578560 bytes - 4226016a - file date is 3/2/2005 20:09:46
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll, loaded at 0x77da0000 - 677888 bytes - 4110964e - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:16
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll, loaded at 0x77e50000 - 581120 bytes - 41109696 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll, loaded at 0x77ef0000 - 280064 bytes - 43b34fed - file date is 12/29/2005 04:54:38
C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll, loaded at 0x77f40000 - 474624 bytes - 453ce10c - file date is 10/23/2006 17:34:38
C:\WINDOWS\system32\secur32.dll, loaded at 0x77fc0000 - 55808 bytes - 411096a9 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:34
C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll, loaded at 0x7c800000 - 1057792 bytes - 44ab9a99 - file date is 7/5/2006 12:55:22
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll, loaded at 0x7c910000 - 733696 bytes - 411096d4 - file date is 8/4/2004 00:57:10
My System: Athlon XP 2800+, 1280MB Ram, GeForce 7600GT with 256MB, SBLive! 5.1, Win XP SP2 with DirectX9c  from Sept 2006, nvidia drivers from March 2007

Game is working fine even on 1280x1024x32 and all on High and AAx4. Till the point where it crashes .

As other games (Spellforce 2, WoW, X3 Reunion) are working, i do not think it is the hardware (Ram).

Any suggestions/hints?

Faldaar

[Drakon]

Odd... I was going to ask about the same thing. Lol, I just discovered Saga two days ago. I'd been waiting for a remake from a large-scale corporate studio for so many years, and I must say this is a spectacular project. When I went through Prologue I had the same crash, but when I replayed it the problem didn't resurface. It happened immedeately after I engaged the autopilot to return to TCS Wellington. There are just a few hiccups it would seem - there was another crash right after taking off on the 4th mission (when I re-opened the minimized program I got a snowy, purple screen and looping 2 seconds of music clip and had to pull the plug on the PC ), but the occasional problem is to be expected. Maybe it's a different problem than I had though... Faldaar and I have different hardware. No crashes for me since I finished the campaign and started replaying it a bit.

Btw, as a side-question... is the inversion option in player controls supposed to be disabled in Prologue? Hehehe, it's so much harder to manuever and aim when one is used to the opposite setting as the default. Thx in advance of a reply, and I hope people can help you troubleshoot Faldaar.

[Starman01]

@Faldaar : When exactly does this problem occur ? On the way back to the wellington (at which distance then ? ) or immediately when you activate the autopilot ? Also important, can you reproduce the error at the same time ?

[Faldaar]

The crashes allways occurs 1 or 2 seconds after I press Alt+a for the Autopilot. After pressing Alt+A I hear the "normal Windows error sound" and 1 second later i am at the desktop with the Windows error message where I can send a report to M$.
I will retry a few times later and take a look at distance, time, etc.

Will report details asap
Faldaar

[Starman01]

Hm, strange. If it happens so shortly after pressing alt-a, then it's not what I thought to be the problem. I was suspecting either the vanish-SEXP for the corvette or the reapearance-SEXP for the battlegroup, but both happens much later.

I remember someone else having this problem, but he weren't able to reproduce it and it appears to be very seldom Stupid idea, but please make an update from your graphics driver.

How's the asteroidfield, any problem with that ? Maybe not visible or far distant asteroids and extreme slowdowns ? You might want to try to install the asteroid fix then

[Faldaar]

No problems with the asteroid fields. All running smooth.

And I just finished the first mission without crash
After the fight with the corvette distance to TCS Wellington is around 50000 (+- 1000) and game crashes just after pushing Alt+a. The last time I tried to get a little closer and waited til the distance is around 35000 and then pushed Alt+a and ... *drums* ... it didn't crash.

I will let you know if there are any problems in the next missions. Can't await to play them.

Faldaar

[Onion3313]

I have the same error and I can reproduce it.  It happens a few seconds after I engage Autopilot to the Wellington and at around 29990 or so left it crashes.  Every time it crashed it happened at the same point in the game.  I really want to keep playing but I can never get passed that one part without it crashing.

[mustanger]

You know, I think I had this problem as well.  However, it only happened once for me so I assumed it was a random glitch...

[Starman01]

As I suspected it's the change-ship-class SEXP that is executed at this time. It's really strange that this causes problem to a few people. Maybe it's a problem of memory usage, since I switch all ship model back at the same moment.

@Onion :  Let's try this here : http://wcsaga.hard-light.net/team/Starman/downloads/prol_mission01.rar

In your installation folder, create a "data" folder. Inside the data-folder, create a " missions" folder and copy the two files included into the rar into it.

I have split up the changing-Sexp, so that now the half of the ships is switched back at 30.000 klicks, and the other half at 20.000 klicks. Maybe not perfectly balanced for optical purpose, but when it works out, I can improve it a little for the upcoming patch.

Please try it, and tell me if it still happens.

[Tolwyn]

I do not think that we will need change-ship-class at all, but that is a different matter

[Starman01]

I don't think so either, since it must be totally dependend on the users machine. I had never problems with that, and I'm certainly the one who played the missions the most, in fact I can't see them anymore

[Colonol Dekker]

Could it be attatched to a windows shortcut? 

[Onion3313]

Thanks, I'll give it a shot now and see if it works.  I'll edit this post and let you know if it works or not.


Edit:

It worked!  I managed to get back to the Wellington without any type of problems with those two files you gave me.  Thanks Starman, much appreciated!   

[Starman01]

Glad it worked, then it must really be a memory problem. We will have to take care of that in the main campaign, so that the game get's even more polished.

But honestly, the same feature is used in Mission 2 and 4, and also the bomber sim mission. Pls report back, when the error occurs there too.

[Tolwyn]

Glad it worked, then it must really be a memory problem. We will have to take care of that in the main campaign, so that the game get's even more polished.

autopilot implementation does not use change-ship-class anymore, so we have one problem less