[Colonol Dekker]

Irrelevant as it's a little known fact that all Zods smell like rotten scampi. . . The second largest contributor to the outbreak of the fourteen year war.
 
 
Odd fanon but IRREFUTABLY TRUE angryfaic.

[Nohiki]

Stop picking on Zods, racists!  Their reactors are heavily used by terrans and they are responsoble for designing the GTVA ships in BP:AoA. You gonna tell me those are bad?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Yes.

To be more precise, they are better than many Capella-era warships, but they still don't really match up in some situations. The originality of most of the post-Capella ships is astounding. To wit:

1. Place absurd amount of forward guns
2. Fire all batteries
3. ???
4. PROFIT!

Yeah, we've not seen any other species do that before.

[Charismatic]

Stop picking on Zods, racists! 

Lol, check my signature.

And how can you (not the person im quoting) say Silent Threat: Reborn is not cannon? They made it, and sold it as a game. Not as freeware. Its like saying FS1 is not cannon due to FS2 being better quality wise (wether or not that statement is true, im making a point).

Vasudan weaps may be stonger, ships may be better, but we still managed a even stalemate in a 14 year war. We got something good going.

[General Battuta]

Stop picking on Zods, racists! 

Lol, check my signature.

And how can you (not the person im quoting) say Silent Threat: Reborn is not cannon? They made it, and sold it as a game. Not as freeware. Its like saying FS1 is not cannon due to FS2 being better quality wise (wether or not that statement is true, im making a point).

Silent Threat Reborn was never made by V and never sold. It was made by Goober and Galemp and released less than two years ago, IIRC.

[Colonol Dekker]

Oh General, you sniped my reply D:

[Charismatic]

What am I thinking of then?

[General Battuta]

What am I thinking of then?

Silent Threat?

[ssmit132]

Silent Threat?

You just sniped my reply this time!

[Charismatic]

Ah thats it, lol!

[Mars]

Yes.

To be more precise, they are better than many Capella-era warships, but they still don't really match up in some situations. The originality of most of the post-Capella ships is astounding. To wit:

1. Place absurd amount of forward guns
2. Fire all batteries
3. ???
4. PROFIT!

Yeah, we've not seen any other species do that before.

That's the whole point - it's even mentioned in the tech descriptions. The BP ships are designed to imitate Shivan shock jumps and destroy ships much larger than themselves. Pretty good counter for Shivan ships for a species without the resources to build 90 juggernauts to counter 90 juggernauts.

The Diomedes and Raynor are the ships designed to operate in a more traditional fashion, and they really are much superior to the Deimos and Orion in many ways.

[Colonol Dekker]

I object to the topic title based on its current content and request it be changed to something non-zoddish.

[Drogoth]

On the topic of all the BP: AoA ships. I dunno. They are good ships, but I always kind of likes the feel of FS1/FS2 where the Zods got their sleek ships with smooth lines and Terrans had the blocky utilitarian ships.

Plus the Raynor makes me think of starcraft, where the terrans once again have blocky utilitarian hardware haha.

However the new ships are excellent, it just did seem to be a very radical design departure. If there is so much of a rift between terrans and vasudans as described in BP, then why are the terrans letting the vasudans design their ships?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Industry practice? They've been doing it since the Deimos and Myrmidon, which was about 20 years before WiH, I think.

[Drogoth]

I guess there's something to that, but relations were also stronger then. Personal opinion, but I think in a situation where the alliance is on the verge of collapse because of xenophobic tensions I think that paranoia would trump industry practice on that point.

Also it just kind of hit me, maybe this massive new wave of ship construction is the reason the terrans economy is hurting so bad haha. I mean, look at FS2, thirty years after the great war. There are still a great deal of ships from the great war era in service, albeit refitted.

But the Deimos in particular is described as being ultra modern and the foundation of tommorow's fleet.

Fast forward 20 years and we have two new corvette classes, two new destroyers and more cruisers. I mean, I am fully behind that, Terrans needed a much more diverse fleet, but i guess the Deimos just couldnt hold up the day after tommorow's fleet 

[General Battuta]

The Deimos is still the foundation of the fleet, and there are a lot of them. The next-gen TEI ships are fairly rare by comparison.

[Snail]

Well keep in mind that we only see the really cutting edge Tev ships in AoA and WiH (I think there are only two battlegroups that use the new ships; the 14th and 15th Battlegroups). I'm sure the majority of the GTVA still uses Deimoses (and GW-era ships too), as we see from the majority of the 2nd Fleet.

[Mobius]

The Deimos should be very frequent 20 years after the Capella accident (especially considering the reasons why it was built in the first place).

[Snail]

If we're talking about Blue Planet, I'm sure if you went around and saw the rest of the fleet you'd definitely see a lot bigger proportion of Deimoses than we actually have seen in the campaigns.

[Mobius]

But since this is not the BP forum...