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Where should the TBP board be moved to?

Leave it where it is.
4 (13.8%)
Into its own section like Diaspora
11 (37.9%)
Into a new FS2_Open Games (or Other Games) section.
7 (24.1%)
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7 (24.1%)

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Voting closed: October 01, 2012, 07:44:08 pm

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Offline karajorma

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What to do with the TBP board?
So, I've just moved the Diaspora board cause the number of child boards was getting ridiculous. TBP doesn't have this issue but I don't want anyone thinking I'm slighting you by not moving you (Tolwyn can move Wing Commander Saga if he so desires).

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Offline General Battuta

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
I'm envious! If we open up a bunch of child boards can we get our own section? We've certainly got the total post count for it.  :nervous:

 

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
I think it was the combination of having lots of child boards + being lost in a sea of Freespace mods we have nothing to do with. Blue Planet is and always will be Freespace related.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
I think Diaspora is a more important thing for the community anyway, and deserves a bit more infrastructure.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
Also I voted for TBP getting its own little cluster, given how awesome TBP is and how much work has gone into it.

 

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
I'm OK with it staying where it is.  If we managed to get ourselves more attention however, then I feel that something more elaborate might be in order, but for the time being, I feel that no change is necessary.
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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
Personally I'm in favour of a "Full Games" section instead of just staying here. Something that makes it clear that TBP and WCS are games you can just download without needing FS2.
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Offline Fury

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
I think it would be fair to separate mods from total conversions. TBP like WoD and others would go under TC category for not requiring original FS2 to play.

However, that still wouldn't solve the Diaspora issue because you just replace one category with another. But you can't give each TC its own category either. If you want to keep things fair, then Diaspora would also go under TC category. Or if you want to give Diaspora special treatment, leave it to its own category.

Or, you can talk to Sandwich and design new forum index that utilizes screen estate better to display large number of categories and boards under them. The default index displays a lot of unnecessary information such as number of posts, topics and last posted. So get rid of those and make use of that space.

Traditional index page really isn't good for showing large number of categories and boards, amount of scrolling require is ridiculous. I only use "show unread posts since last visit" and it serves me well and I don't waste time going through each board one by one.

One possible design for index page could be that it only displays categories at first, then user selects category and it displays all boards under that category below the categories. That way you never get obstinate amount of boards thrown at you at once. To take it further, the index could allow to store last selected category to a cookie. So if someone only ever reads Diaspora boards, the category is saved for him/her and displayed when he/she visits the next time.

Be creative in how you do things and put that Sandwich to work. :p But considering what pain the mainpage has been and still is. I probably shouldn't have mentioned this, as it'll never get done.

 

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
I'm in a favour of a "Standalone game/mod" section as well. FotG will join it later as well, possibly others. WoD2 could use the breathing room when it'll happen as well.

"Standalone" is better than "Total Conversion" imho because not needing FS2 is usually one of the major selling points.
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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
I was under the impression WoD still required FS2 if not, the same applies to them.
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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
Inferno will, I believe, be launching standalone.

 

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
I was under the impression WoD still required FS2 if not, the same applies to them.

put it like this, WoD uses several civilian ships as civilian ships
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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
WoD2 will be made standalone, AFAIK. I think Spoon just cba to standalone WoD1, maybe he'll do it around WoD2 release. He'll be able to confirm this.
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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
I think it would be fair to separate mods from total conversions. TBP like WoD and others would go under TC category for not requiring original FS2 to play.

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
I'd say, have each TC have their own bopard, like Diaspora - if they wish so.
Not sure if a certain rule set is necessary - e.g. number of sub-boards, FS2 independent, whatever.


 

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
I say "like Diaspora".
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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
After having played a little bit of Diaspora I think The Babylon Project has the right to get the same treatment. Also now again I value the fantastic ships and energy beams of Babylon 5 even more, compared to the boring black and white battles in the new Battlestar Galactica universe :)!

 

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
After having played a little bit of Diaspora I think The Babylon Project has the right to get the same treatment. Also now again I value the fantastic ships and energy beams of Babylon 5 even more, compared to the boring black and white battles in the new Battlestar Galactica universe :)!

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
c'mon son, let's be nerd friends here

That wasn't meant to insult the Diaspora creators, their mod is great! But all the ships are basically grey, I know what I liked so much about Babylon 5 ;)...

 

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Re: What to do with the TBP board?
After having played a little bit of Diaspora I think The Babylon Project has the right to get the same treatment. Also now again I value the fantastic ships and energy beams of Babylon 5 even more, compared to the boring black and white battles in the new Battlestar Galactica universe :)!

The question is not about the right. Pretty much all the released standalone games have the right.

It's about what the game needs. I gave Diaspora its own section because it was getting very crowded having everything on one board. TBP never struck me as being as crowded, even in its prime. Maybe a section in the Standalone Games is all it needs. I don't think TBP should be in its own section just because Diaspora is. That's like a 5 year old's version of fair. :p It should be in its own section if that is what it needs to develop further.

Bear in mind that it's quite possible that TBP might actually get noticed by more people in a Standalone Games section than it might be in its own section.
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