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Offline Mongoose

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Mass Effect isn't turn-based.
Yeah, I know; that was just a general comment about many examples of the genre.  Truth be told, I've played a few games outside my usual comfort zone in the past and wound up enjoying them simply based on their high quality (Chrono Trigger comes to mind), so I'm sure I'll get more than my money's worth out of this too.

 

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Mass Effect isn't turn-based.
Yeah, I know; that was just a general comment about many examples of the genre.  Truth be told, I've played a few games outside my usual comfort zone in the past and wound up enjoying them simply based on their high quality (Chrono Trigger comes to mind), so I'm sure I'll get more than my money's worth out of this too.

If you pick soldier and set your compadres to auto use powers you can pretty much play it as a third person shooter.
“Think lightly of yourself and deeply of the world”

 
Soldier Shepard, Wrex, and Garrus with a First Aid Interface/ Medical Exoskeleton.  Chances are you won't need much medi-gel, and you'll have plenty of dakka in your team, with enough biotics and tech to get by.  Soldier Shepard can really health tank, although any class with the Electronics skill can tank as well thanks to the shield buffs Electronics gives.  Tali especially can really shield tank thanks to the boosts from her class talent.
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I smell plot copouts. Except for the Illusive Man's eyes.
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I remain cautiously optimistic, despite this stupid (though thoroughly telegraphed)  revelation.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Uuuuugh I shouldn't be letting myself get hyped but

(crosspost from SA crossposting from BioWare Cesspit Forums)

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"Right now we're in the middle of production" says Mass Effect 3's Executive Producer Casey Hudson. "We're not really at the point where we can show you a ten minute cross-section of what the final game is going to look
like.  But what we can do is show you  is all the stuff that's gonna form Mass Effect 3"

In the order the magazine goes through:

SQUADMATES:
" 'Twelve was a big number in Mass Effect 2 - almost too big", Hudson concedes.  "We're focused on a smaller squad with deeper relationships and more interesting interplay in Mass Effect 3' he explains.  "We're not going to have twelve again but we are going to do more with the characters on  your squad including Liara, and Kaidan or Ashley. And we're bringing everyone back - every main character is in Mass Effect 3 somewhere' "

"Zaeed is in, plus Thane, Mordin and the rest, all knocking about somewhere in the galaxy, doing something
appropriate for their character and with the same lavish redesigns given to every core character in the game."

Garrus is back along with Jack:
"She's matured," admits Art Director Derek Watts, "maybe she's softened up a bit.  You can only stay punk rock for so long, you know.  Even Johnny Rotten eventually goes, 'I've got to do something different'.  She'd get tired of walking around completely naked and she'd probably grow her hair out, but she's still Jack and still kinda punk - shaved at the sides with a ponytail at the back"

ON CHARACTER RE-DESIGN:
"We have to update the look," Watts continues, referring to Jack, Ashley and Kaidan's refesigns "And the people who redesign the characters are the same people who did the original characters; and they know best how these things are supposed to mature.  Stuff changes. Garrus' armour is going to change.  Even Shepard has changed quite a bit.  His armour has changed a lot since the first Mass Effect"


NORMANDY SR2
"Formerly a Cerberus vessel, Shepard's return to the Alliance has seen the ship repainted with the Alliance colour scheme and several new sections of the shop reopened up to exploration"

"The Normandy drops yellow, white, and black in favour of red, white and blue following its Alliance refit."
"...the SR2 will be filled with Alliance engineers dissecting the advanced Cerberus technology"

CERBERUS
"Regardless of how you finished ME2, Cerberus are now your enemy and are throwing their black and yellow-clad commandos at Shepard for reasons he'll discover later in the game when, as Bioware confirm then Illusive Man
returns"

"You were begrudgingly working for Cerberus in ME2" Explains Casey Hudson, "but they've gone a bit further and Shepard has returned to the Alliance so Cerberus troops are a major threat"

"Cerberus heavy troopers wear enormous armour, Assassins use the same Biotics as Shepard and Phantoms use blades."


WEAPONS (Customization and Sounds)
"Every weapoin is modular and can be customised with up to five modifcations; scopes increase a rifle's zoom factor, new barrels increase accuracy or damage.  Sling your gun on a workbench and it can be customised for a job at hand. Guns sound better too..." [Goes on to say that they swapped notes from DICE on gun sounds and how environments affect the sounds and how every weapon "fires with a hard-edged crack"]


SHEPARD IS MORE AGILE
"As Shepard you're more agile than ever before" Hudson continues. "You're falling, climbing, jumping, rolling between cover, SWAT turning, you can melee and grab enemies over cover objects... there's a new heavy melee
attack for every class.  You just feel way more mobile..."


COMBAT
"Cerberus Troopers can do everything that Shepard can do now" says Designer Corey Gaspur. "So your fighting a force that's a lot more punishing"

"We wanted to make it so that when the player's fighting in the moment they feel like they have more options than aiming shooting and using powers says Lead Gameplay Designer Christina Norman.  "We really want to make
mobility a factor that plays into combat.  You'll always ask yourself, 'am I in the right position on the battlefield? Where are my enemies? How am I going to get from point A to point B?' Players should never be walking tino these safe places with great cover and stay there for the whole fight.  It's about how you're going to move through the
battlefield as the enemies through the battefield move through the battlefield and how they're reacting to one another and to you"

Example with husks
"The new combat system makes for a bloodier and more violent game, as Casey Hudson explains: "The husks are faster and more aggressive versions of the ones you've seen before, but whether they're robots or they're organic you can shoot parts off and they will all have multiple stages of damage"

AI Enemies now work as a unit each with unique roles
"Some will provide covering fire for snipers, some will deploy smoke tohide advancing comrades, others will coordinate subordinate units, and one will stomp around consuming its fallen friends to fuel itself"

NOTE: The examples provided ^above^ are not exclusive too each other...the "one will stomp around consuming its fallen friends to fuel itself" is likely the Reaper Cannibal we have been hearing about..

RPG! (not the weapon)
"We've taken a lot of feedback from the Mass Effect community," says Hudson. "more than anything, people want us to deepen the RPG aspect of the experience.  Now, that isn't necessarily something traditional; about stats and loot; we see it as being more about exploration and making a good character-driven story with intelligent decision-making in how you progress."

"I think specifically we wanted to do more with the sense of progression.  We had that sense in ME2, but only in a few areasregarding your armour choices, your weapon choices and the things you find.  That activity chain was too simple and it didn't allow you to make choices that could customise your experience.  You could choose different weapons and stuff like that but you couldn't invest in the weapons like you can in ME3.  You can see how modifications change different atributes, and start making choices about your value and which ones you would rather seel and which ones you thjink are rare.  That whole activity coain was a button we weren't really pushing in ME2 and something we're trying to hit throughout ME3"

LOCATIONS (we obviously know more than article mentions)
-"Turian homeworld Palaven and theQuarian homeworld Rannoch are early new destinations."
-Returning to Tuchanka
-Mining base on the edge of a Martian crater
-BUT "it's Earth cities which form the game's showpiece locations"                                                                 
  "The Seatle/Vancouver megacity on the west coast of North America is a truly gigantic space which Shepard will    visit before and after the Reapers take it apart."

"If you Google Map Vancouver the layout is pretty much the exact same as our map" says Level Artist Don Arceta. "Geographically it's very true to the real world"

[magazine goes on about the "new found focus on realism and utility giving spaces a history and a reason for being"]

"You play a game like Gears or War and they just have sandbags everywhere, and we really don't want to do that. We really want to get away from arbitrary things placed just for the people workingthere, and we're just trying to really make sense of these spaces"
"We try to design the arhitecture first before we blow it up" says Arceta.  "Like, really thinking about how did they actually design this building, and does it function well?"

BIG LEVELS:
"These spaces large enough to accommodate a six hundred foot Reaper bossfight, and a fifty foot Cerberus Atlas mech Shepard himself pilots later in the game."

"Overand over Bioware's team mention the scale of ME3 - every fight every enemy and every space is bigger than anything you've ever seen rendered in Mass Effect - or by the Unreal Engine - before"

LEVEL VARIETY

-More varied and unpredictable:
"You could always tell when a fight was coming" says Hudson about ME2 "You would walk iunto a room filled with low cover and before we could get dramatic about it you already knew a fight was coming.  So now we're
building environments that don't have crates and sandbags and that kind of cover; we have environments that have natural opportunities to take cover.  And it helps that Shepard can climb and fall and SWAT turn and leaps across gaps and stuff like that.  It allows you to look around your environment and solve problems in that space and makes combat less predictable"

"I think Lair of the Shadow Broker is a good look at how we design levels now" says Hudson [...] "It's all about sudden shifts in the action. There's a section on Earth where you're running a narrow walkway and there's a war going on all around you and a ship is in the distance. Suddenly its nuclear core blows up and its suchs a shockwave that it knocks you off the walkway and you end up sliding down the glass face of a knocked over high-rise and then you kind of roll and catch yourself and all that happens in a moment of gameplay.  You have control thoughout and that's when you'll realise annything could happen at any time"

ENEMIES
"We definitely want you to feel that the enemies you're fighting are more complex, that they have multiple behaviors and that they're reacting to whats going on" says Lead Gameplay Designer, Christina Norman. "With ME2 we made each enemy as anindividual. Now we look at enemies as a force, with each of them having rols and capabilities.  Its giving our level designers and combat designers a lot more opportunity to create really interesting combat, not with heavy scripting, but by combining these pieces that work together in really new and interesting ways"


Asari and Rachni Husks...
"The Husks in the first and second game were humans that had been converted by Reaper technology" Hudson explains. " Now you're gonna see all the different races in the galaxy converted by that technology - the Asari, the Rachni - all mashed together by the Reapers"


IMPORTS
They have a big spreadsheet...                                                                                                                   

"Whether you killed or saved Wrex...the Rachni Queen decision...the council..." ]"If you have the opportunity to
import a saved game then there is a lot of texture to the way that shapes your story.  Players have made a lot of choices along the way.  We have a big spreadsheet"


FOR NEW PLAYERS
Similar to what PS3 owners got for ME2...BUT:                                                                                               
"It might not be comic style, but we'll do something in the same style to recap the story", says Hudson. "It's essentially a really fancy save game generator

REWARD FOR LOYAL FANS?
"Absolutely," he says. "Definitely.  The challenge is to make the game better than ever before, to make it a great entry point for new players, and to make it the ending fans deserve.  It's about making sure it starts the way a
great story should start versus just being a continuation. And thats tough becaus there is no canon except for what the player has chosen. In the end, its their game".

don't want to want, but do want

 
It's okay to want, Battuta. It's okay.

 

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Look I am not even going to read that. If they announced that ME3 was just going to be one 15-hour sequence of renegade events where Shepard punches reporters in the face I would still get it on release to find out how my imported saved game affects the reporter's look of surprise when Shepard-fist disingenuously asserts itself on her face

 

Offline General Battuta

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Look I am not even going to read that. If they announced that ME3 was just going to be one 15-hour sequence of renegade events where Shepard punches reporters in the face I would still get it on release to find out how my imported saved game affects the reporter's look of surprise when Shepard-fist disingenuously asserts itself on her face

What are the implications for Conrad Verner

 

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Cerberus the enemy again, regardless of how you played?

Fail Bioware...fail.
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Cerberus the enemy again, regardless of how you played?

Fail Bioware...fail.

You know, they used to be your enemy before ME2, and then are your friend in ME2 for no apperent reason except that you are, apperently, Alpha 1.

I almost expected them to double cross me at some point.

 

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What are the implications for Conrad Verner

In the background you might see Conrad set up a rival gig where he slaps random people for no reason but one time you can punch a reporter so hard that she flies into Conrad's ramshackle organisation and explodes

 
In the background you might see Conrad set up a rival gig where he slaps random people for no reason but one time you can punch a reporter so hard that she flies into Conrad's ramshackle organisation and explodes

That elicited a rather loud guffaw from me, much to the annoyance of those in my presence. Thank you, Ransom.

 

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I can't but help wonder what exactly is getting you folks all hyped up about? All those info bits posted in last several pages isn't really nothing but cheap hype in the "I promise you the moon" category. I'm pretty sure you could swap words around and hype up McDonals latest burger in similar manner.

I'm waiting for ME3 as much as the next guy, but seriously is it really this easy to hype you up?

 

Offline General Battuta

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I can't but help wonder what exactly is getting you folks all hyped up about? All those info bits posted in last several pages isn't really nothing but cheap hype in the "I promise you the moon" category. I'm pretty sure you could swap words around and hype up McDonals latest burger in similar manner.

I'm waiting for ME3 as much as the next guy, but seriously is it really this easy to hype you up?

Try reading it again, maybe you'll spot the bits we're excited about!

ed: by which I mean if you don't think substantive corrections to the annoying things about ME2 aren't exciting, you're weird; if you don't think substantive new features that CLEARLY impact gameplay (like expanded player maneuverability and enemy types) are exciting, you're just being cynical for the sake of cynicism.

It's not like people here are ingenues, we know that all games inevitably come with faults, but there is a clear difference between this and the buildup to DA2.

 

Offline Fury

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It's called marketing. With little modifications you could use same bits to describe Freespace 1. These info bits don't have any hard substance that would make me excited.

 

Offline General Battuta

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It's called marketing. With little modifications you could use same bits to describe Freespace 1. These info bits don't have any hard substance that would make me excited.

Yes they do, they straight-up explicitly describe hard information on gameplay changes (for example: increased weapon customizability; end of 'waist high wall' syndrome signaling areas with combat) that directly address weaknesses Mass Effect 2 had.

 

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I can't but help wonder what exactly is getting you folks all hyped up about? All those info bits posted in last several pages isn't really nothing but cheap hype in the "I promise you the moon" category. I'm pretty sure you could swap words around and hype up McDonals latest burger in similar manner.

I'm waiting for ME3 as much as the next guy, but seriously is it really this easy to hype you up?

Try reading it again, maybe you'll spot the bits we're excited about!

ed: by which I mean if you don't think substantive corrections to the annoying things about ME2 aren't exciting, you're weird; if you don't think substantive new features that CLEARLY impact gameplay (like expanded player maneuverability and enemy types) are exciting, you're just being cynical for the sake of cynicism.

It's not like people here are ingenues, we know that all games inevitably come with faults, but there is a clear difference between this and the buildup to DA2.

i sorta have to agree with fury here.  there's a lot of buzz words and slick talking going on, but yeah there ARE some *seemingly* concrete bits in there.  i say it like that because i saw ME2 hype in the same way over ME1, and then i found it to be a quite inferior game.  yeah, yeah, i'm gonna get the "opinion" rage, but there were specific things "fixed" that turned out to be crap, like the mako by removing exploration altogether, or item spam by removing item collection altogether.
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