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Title: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 29, 2009, 03:26:27 am
Okay.

So I buy this game Crysis, a bit later than most people.
I try to install the thing, it tells me "error 1335: level3.cab is corrupt"

So okay, I check the forums, and lots of people have a similar problem. Seems I have to copy that file to another computer and bring it to my own on a flash drive, and in the meantime copy the entire DVD contents to my computer, then overwrite the offending file and install from my HD. So that's the plan.

So I pop Crysis back into the CD/DVD Rom, now the thing won't even READ the disc. I throw in some other DVDs, it won't read that either. I check the forums, again people have had this same **** problem.

So what, I try a system restore to the time before I got the game. I also try to uninstall my DVD rom drivers and have windows re-install them. NO DICE. This dumb piece of **** ****ing game has apparently made my DVD Rom not read DVDs anymore. There's no other explanation. I barely used my computer all weekend, didn't use any wierd stuff. Didn't visit any websites I don't normally or download anything wierd. Watched some Stargate DVDs right before I bought this game. It can't be just a coincidence that all of the sudden, my DVD rom craps out just as I buy this dumb game. Not likely.


Anyone have a similar experience? And if so did anything help???

This piece of **** game is going back to London Drugs that's for damn sure.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Dilmah G on April 29, 2009, 03:50:21 am
Refund it for sure man, that's absolute ****
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Fury on April 29, 2009, 04:06:25 am
Try booting the computer from a Windows installation CD to see if the drive works. If it can read the CD, then you have a software problem caused by whatever DRM Crysis installed.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Herra Tohtori on April 29, 2009, 04:25:04 am
Try booting the computer from a Windows installation CD to see if the drive works. If it can read the CD, then you have a software problem caused by whatever DRM Crysis installed.

I'd rather try a Linux live cd just to reduce the risk of accidentally the whole operating system...
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Dilmah G on April 29, 2009, 04:29:23 am
I'm going to guess you meant something along the lines of wiped/resetting, that shouldn't generally happen, I think you should try it
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 29, 2009, 04:39:21 am
It reads CDs. Or at least when I put a music CD in there I could see all the files on it. I assume I could play them also. It just doesn't read the DVDs. I don't get it. Fakking thing. Man if this problem is permanent I'll be pissed.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Angelus on April 29, 2009, 06:28:55 am
Some games refuse to work if you have a drive emulator running ( Daemon tools ), while others refuse to work if a burning software is installed.
Also soft ware like AnyDVD can cause problems.
Check the support if your drive is on the "known" list of drives that won't work with the protection/ DRM of the game.

If i want to play Battlefront II, i have to remove Nero and Daemon tools first. :blah:

Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 29, 2009, 08:05:54 am
That's Securom for you. If it thinks that something fishy's going on (which could be pretty much anything) (there's a possibility that) it'll fry your machine. Maybe it's an SCSI drive.

My suggestion, you own the game; (http://www.thepickards.co.uk/images/pirate63.gif)(http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/4000/4491/BiscayBay_AMO2004137_lrg.jpg).
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: TrashMan on April 29, 2009, 09:37:57 am
Too bad you're having trouble with the game. I love it.



Cole is correct....SecuRom is baaaaaaaad.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on April 29, 2009, 09:55:22 am
/me glances at the title of this thread.

Most modern games are.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Flipside on April 29, 2009, 10:36:32 am
Securom did something similar to my DVD drive, I think I've posted about it before in here:

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,60392.0.html
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: General Battuta on April 29, 2009, 12:07:05 pm
Get it off Steam.

I gotta warn you, Crysis isn't that great -- all the graphical capabilities are unfortunately built around some moderately uninspiring gameplay (it gets better on Delta, though). Warhead was a moderate step up.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: CP5670 on April 29, 2009, 12:11:24 pm
This is definitely a Securom thing. I was getting the same problem with C&C3 a while ago, and eventually resorted to copying the cab files to another computer and transferring them to my main machine to get the thing installed.

However, it shouldn't affect any other DVDs. If you already have Securom installed from another game, you can try removing it, but it's always the game exes and not the installers that actually put Securom on your system.

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I gotta warn you, Crysis isn't that great -- all the graphical capabilities are unfortunately built around some moderately uninspiring gameplay (it gets better on Delta, though). Warhead was a moderate step up.

I liked the game, even leaving aside its graphics. It was a little too easy even on Delta, but it felt fairly open ended (the first half at least) and had good variety in its level design and combat situations, more than most FPSs. Warhead was actually a step backwards in almost every way.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 29, 2009, 01:26:28 pm
This is definitely a Securom thing. I was getting the same problem with C&C3 a while ago, and eventually resorted to copying the cab files to another computer and transferring them to my main machine to get the thing installed.

However, it shouldn't affect any other DVDs. If you already have Securom installed from another game, you can try removing it, but it's always the game exes and not the installers that actually put Securom on your system.

Well I dunno man. All I know is friday night I watch Stargate DVD on my computer. After that I try to install this game. It says level3.cab is corrupt, so I'm going to do as you say to get it installed. And I do that, but when I go back to install the game it doesn't read at all. This after, not doing ANYTHING with my computer pretty much all weekend. And now it doesn't read Crysis DVD, doesn't read that same Stargate DVD, doesn't read pretty any DVD I've put in there.

My bro gave me an idea for a fix and I'll try it. See what happens.


I tell you one thing though, after having this **** happen likely because of SecuRom, Steam is looking like Mother Theresa.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: General Battuta on April 29, 2009, 01:37:40 pm
This is definitely a Securom thing. I was getting the same problem with C&C3 a while ago, and eventually resorted to copying the cab files to another computer and transferring them to my main machine to get the thing installed.

However, it shouldn't affect any other DVDs. If you already have Securom installed from another game, you can try removing it, but it's always the game exes and not the installers that actually put Securom on your system.

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I gotta warn you, Crysis isn't that great -- all the graphical capabilities are unfortunately built around some moderately uninspiring gameplay (it gets better on Delta, though). Warhead was a moderate step up.

I liked the game, even leaving aside its graphics. It was a little too easy even on Delta, but it felt fairly open ended (the first half at least) and had good variety in its level design and combat situations, more than most FPSs. Warhead was actually a step backwards in almost every way.

Well, it may be that I detested the second half of Crysis so much that Warhead seemed like a relief...but I agree, it had its faults as well.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Grizzly on April 29, 2009, 03:35:22 pm
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I tell you one thing though, after having this **** happen likely because of SecuRom, Steam is looking like Mother Theresa.

The only thing that sucks about steam is that I need a credit card or similar to buy games with it, which all require me my parent's permission or me being 18 years or older. Which I am not... Luckily, all the valve games one can buy in a store already use steam :).

Valve = awesome.

Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 29, 2009, 04:09:42 pm
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I tell you one thing though, after having this **** happen likely because of SecuRom, Steam is looking like Mother Theresa.

The only thing that sucks about steam is that I need a credit card or similar to buy games with it, which all require me my parent's permission or me being 18 years or older. Which I am not... Luckily, all the valve games one can buy in a store already use steam :).

Valve = awesome.

Um, no. Valve = The Lesser of Two Evils

As for their games, I recently broke my own promise and bought HL2 and the Episode pack because they were only ten bucks. HL2 was a huge dissapointment. It's not even a story, it's an introduction to a story. You play through the whole game without knowing what's actually going on. That's IDIOTIC. How can I get into a game if I don't know the story??? I mean, a person who played HL1 ASSUMES that it's the guys from the other dimension, but then what, you've got previous evil aliens on your side. And all you fight is a bunch of face less marines? Am I fighting aliens? Because all I see to be killing is bunch of humans with no faces. And why does every headcrab zombie look like a scientist? What? They couldn't change the clothes to make it match the civy population?? Everyone's in fatigues anyway. All you do the whole game is kill Marines and Zombies.

The episodes were not bad, I actually enjoyed those. But they're supposed to be "Half Life 3" more/less. If I don't know the story of a game until I play the sequel there's something seriously wrong. And what's gordon's motivation in HL2? "Oh, these cops don't like me. So, I'm going to go and kill about 800 faceless marines and countless other people in some big tower." No one ever tells him what's going on and he's too stupid to ask apparently. I just never connected with the first HL2 game.

Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Flipside on April 29, 2009, 04:12:45 pm
I used to hate Steam, but I must admit, it has grown on me over the years, still have reservations though.

I'm still not sure I like the 'umbilical cord' idea of DRM, where you either must have everything installed and never uninstall, or trust Valve to never go out of business.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: TrashMan on April 29, 2009, 04:21:21 pm
I luved Crysis. Warhead is a nice expansion, but Crysis has better missions/levels IMHO.

rRy modding the game and making the cloak coast redicolous ammount  of energy. It's fun to sneak areound hte old fashioned way!
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 29, 2009, 04:29:50 pm
rRy modding the game and making the cloak coast redicolous ammount  of energy. It's fun to sneak areound hte old fashioned way!

I wanted to play Crysis because Far Cry 1 was so fakking awesome and FC2 sounds like a pile of poop. But alas, Crysis instead has done nothing but piss me off.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: CP5670 on April 29, 2009, 05:48:12 pm
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Well, it may be that I detested the second half of Crysis so much that Warhead seemed like a relief...but I agree, it had its faults as well.

I thought that part was a nice change. It was very linear, but it had some unusual things that I hadn't seen in FPSs for a while (zero gravity, flying the VTOL, etc.). Warhead had nothing out of the ordinary like that, the story was much worse, and both the graphics and performance were inferior.

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As for their games, I recently broke my own promise and bought HL2 and the Episode pack because they were only ten bucks. HL2 was a huge dissapointment. It's not even a story, it's an introduction to a story. You play through the whole game without knowing what's actually going on. That's IDIOTIC. How can I get into a game if I don't know the story??? I mean, a person who played HL1 ASSUMES that it's the guys from the other dimension, but then what, you've got previous evil aliens on your side. And all you fight is a bunch of face less marines? Am I fighting aliens? Because all I see to be killing is bunch of humans with no faces. And why does every headcrab zombie look like a scientist? What? They couldn't change the clothes to make it match the civy population?? Everyone's in fatigues anyway. All you do the whole game is kill Marines and Zombies.

Yes, that was a mediocre game. I didn't bother with the episodes after playing it. Maybe I should try them some time if they are substantially better.

As far as Steam goes, it has plenty of its own issues, and the games often have the same DRM as the retail version in addition to Steam's DRM.

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rRy modding the game and making the cloak coast redicolous ammount  of energy. It's fun to sneak areound hte old fashioned way!

I actually didn't use the cloak much and just played it as a sniper, similar to Far Cry.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: General Battuta on April 29, 2009, 05:52:15 pm
The graphics seemed a bit better in Warhead on my rig.

The second part of Crysis had two decent moments (liked the null-G ship level and most of the VTOL section), but gar, everything else was awful.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: CP5670 on April 29, 2009, 05:59:47 pm
I played both games with the same custom high/very high configuration and Warhead had a noticeably lower draw distance for the vegetation. The framerates were a bit higher, but it used an annoying content streaming system that caused the game to stutter whenever you entered a new area, so the overall performance felt worse. This was especially frequent on the train level.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: General Battuta on April 29, 2009, 06:03:36 pm
I did indeed notice that stuttering.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 29, 2009, 06:09:45 pm
Yes, that was a mediocre game. I didn't bother with the episodes after playing it. Maybe I should try them some time if they are substantially better.

Well yeah I enjoyed them. The end of the second episode was actually pretty sweet too, until I realised a certain trick that made it significantly easier.
Though there are a couple of dumb points, like one part where they make it scarier by arbitrarily limiting the character. Kinda dumb. But other than that, pretty decent. I might actually by episode 3 at full price.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 29, 2009, 06:56:28 pm
Yes, that was a mediocre game. I didn't bother with the episodes after playing it. Maybe I should try them some time if they are substantially better.

Well yeah I enjoyed them. The end of the second episode was actually pretty sweet too, until I realised a certain trick that made it significantly easier.
Though there are a couple of dumb points, like one part where they make it scarier by arbitrarily limiting the character. Kinda dumb. But other than that, pretty decent. I might actually by episode 3 at full price.
I though the episodes, especially 2, were much better. What's your trick?
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 29, 2009, 07:03:54 pm
Well yeah I enjoyed them. The end of the second episode was actually pretty sweet too, until I realised a certain trick that made it significantly easier.
Though there are a couple of dumb points, like one part where they make it scarier by arbitrarily limiting the character. Kinda dumb. But other than that, pretty decent. I might actually by episode 3 at full price.
I though the episodes, especially 2, were much better. What's your trick?

My trick?
Spoiler:
Well the hardest part of the Episode 2 climax isn't the large walkers it's the HK walkers. They're the only real threat to Freeman. But after playing the first few waves a few times and continually running out of ammo to kill the HKs I got desperate and just thought screw it, ram the bastards. And that's when I discovered all you gotta do is run over the HKs jump out and then bag the big walkers. And when you're in the car you're compartively shielded. Once you start ramming the guys its not too tough to beat 'em. Because of course, just running them over is a hell of a lot easier than jumping out and trying to bag them with the rocket launcher or the energy pulse or whatever. Even so, a few of the big walkers were pretty harry. Alarms going off all over. And damned if I know how anyone would get the "keep all buildings safe" achievement. But I don't care about achievements anyway. But yeah, sweet climax when. When I walked into the barracks afterwards and everyone was like "good going freeman, you the man" I thought "****ing rights I am. Yeah!". Big grin on my face. Very enjoyable

Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: BloodEagle on April 29, 2009, 10:04:29 pm
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As for their games, I recently broke my own promise and bought HL2 and the Episode pack because they were only ten bucks. HL2 was a huge dissapointment. It's not even a story, it's an introduction to a story. You play through the whole game without knowing what's actually going on. [...]

Yes, that was a mediocre game. I didn't bother with the episodes after playing it. Maybe I should try them some time if they are substantially better.

I personally didn't like how the original Half-Life had no main characters (save G-man). It made it seem like there was no story at all beyond the basic plot. I never played the expansions though, so they might have actually done something with the story there....

I found Half-Life 2 to be annoying as all Hell for the most part.  Especially on the chase-scenes... er... vehicular chase-scenes... er... the vehicular chase scenes where you're in a boat of some sort er... ... .... Okay, all of the levels save the graveyard (which was immediately followed by a steaming crock).  It took at least an hour to get from Point A to Point B, and that's if you didn't get stuck (kind of rare, but it does happen).

Episode 1 was much better, but the game lasted all of 20 minutes (no joke).

Episode 2 was pretty sweet, it seems to have struck a nice balance between plot progression and gameplay. Though it could do without the annoying physics puzzles.

All in all, if i were you, I would wait until they finish the series (hah) or until Episode 3 is released, as there is a monster cliff-hanger.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on April 30, 2009, 02:12:21 am
If you own Crysis, why not find a crack for it?
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 30, 2009, 02:23:48 am
If you own Crysis, why not find a crack for it?

Because I shouldn't have to.
I also shouldn't have to spend an hour or more trying to get my frakking DVD drive working again.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: CP5670 on April 30, 2009, 02:31:31 am
I personally didn't like how the original Half-Life had no main characters (save G-man). It made it seem like there was no story at all beyond the basic plot. I never played the expansions though, so they might have actually done something with the story there....

I found Half-Life 2 to be annoying as all Hell for the most part.  Especially on the chase-scenes... er... vehicular chase-scenes... er... the vehicular chase scenes where you're in a boat of some sort er... ... .... Okay, all of the levels save the graveyard (which was immediately followed by a steaming crock).  It took at least an hour to get from Point A to Point B, and that's if you didn't get stuck (kind of rare, but it does happen).

I liked HL1 for its time, but HL2 was a pretty generic FPS with few redeeming qualities. The story was all told through a handful of cutscenes with little plot detail beyond that, and the fact your guy never talks even when asked questions was stupid.

The main issue I had was the game itself though. It had hardly any connection to the story and was a linear assault course consisting of hundreds of destroyed houses and sewers, which all looked identical and were all sparsely decorated. This kind of level design would have been acceptable in 1998 but FPSs had moved on from that by 2004. There was also little variation in the weapons or enemies for most of the game. The last few levels were a lot better, especially the final one, but you had to go through a lot of tedium to get that far.

If the episodes are actually fun to play and don't feel like a chore, I'll get them at some point, maybe after they release the third one.

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If you own Crysis, why not find a crack for it?

I would recommend getting one anyway, but his problem is with the installer, not the game itself. There is little you can do about that issue except to try another DVD drive.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on April 30, 2009, 02:58:29 am
Oh, I see. I thought it was the game exe that was giving problems.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: TrashMan on April 30, 2009, 06:26:29 am
The graphics seemed a bit better in Warhead on my rig.

The second part of Crysis had two decent moments (liked the null-G ship level and most of the VTOL section), but gar, everything else was awful.

Awful? The leves were amazing. I especially loved that "assault on the harbror and sink the cruiser" level and the "tank assault" after that.

I must have passed those levels several times, completing them in different ways each time. :yes:
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: TrashMan on April 30, 2009, 06:36:56 am
The story was all told through a handful of cutscenes with little plot detail beyond that, and the fact your guy never talks even when asked questions was stupid.

(http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/07/gordonNoTalky.jpg)
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on April 30, 2009, 06:59:55 am
Gordon Freeman~ :drevil:

But yeah, that's the silent protagonist for you. VERY prevalent in the first-gen Pokemon games, where the player character, Red, never says anything. The third-gen Pokemon games have the protagonists talking using ellipses.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 30, 2009, 07:31:51 am
My trick?
Spoiler:
Well the hardest part of the Episode 2 climax isn't the large walkers it's the HK walkers. They're the only real threat to Freeman. But after playing the first few waves a few times and continually running out of ammo to kill the HKs I got desperate and just thought screw it, ram the bastards. And that's when I discovered all you gotta do is run over the HKs jump out and then bag the big walkers. And when you're in the car you're compartively shielded. Once you start ramming the guys its not too tough to beat 'em. Because of course, just running them over is a hell of a lot easier than jumping out and trying to bag them with the rocket launcher or the energy pulse or whatever. Even so, a few of the big walkers were pretty harry. Alarms going off all over. And damned if I know how anyone would get the "keep all buildings safe" achievement. But I don't care about achievements anyway. But yeah, sweet climax when. When I walked into the barracks afterwards and everyone was like "good going freeman, you the man" I thought "****ing rights I am. Yeah!". Big grin on my face. Very enjoyable
I thought it actually told you to do that somewhere?

Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: General Battuta on April 30, 2009, 12:35:49 pm
The graphics seemed a bit better in Warhead on my rig.

The second part of Crysis had two decent moments (liked the null-G ship level and most of the VTOL section), but gar, everything else was awful.

Awful? The leves were amazing. I especially loved that "assault on the harbror and sink the cruiser" level and the "tank assault" after that.

I must have passed those levels several times, completing them in different ways each time. :yes:

Um, those were in the first half of the game, not the second.

How many times did you pass the 'Escort Nomad' mission?

Yeah, thought so.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 30, 2009, 01:13:09 pm
I thought it actually told you to do that somewhere?

Did it? I dunno. The only thing they told me is that
Spoiler:
the secondary fire on the assault rifle is great for taking out HKs. They didn't say anything about just running them over. Unless I wasn't paying attention. It was cool though, because rather than just start off running them over I had to get desperate first which made it all the more fun and believable sorta thing. Helps that your car is indestructable.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: MP-Ryan on April 30, 2009, 02:04:13 pm
I'm still not sure I like the 'umbilical cord' idea of DRM, where you either must have everything installed and never uninstall, or trust Valve to never go out of business.

Even if Valve were to go under, Steam has been such a success that someone would buy up the rights and things would continue merrily along.

Really, it's gotten to the point now that if I can buy a game through Steam, I usually do.  It's drastically better than every other form of DRM out there.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 30, 2009, 02:16:41 pm
So if I buy Crysis from Steam, no Securom?
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: TrashMan on April 30, 2009, 02:59:38 pm
Um, those were in the first half of the game, not the second.

How many times did you pass the 'Escort Nomad' mission?

Yeah, thought so.

Actually, I liked the second part too. VERY good atmosphere and interesting, even if more linear.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 30, 2009, 03:14:19 pm
Actually, I liked the second part too. VERY good atmosphere and interesting, even if more linear.

You guys are saying linear? How does it compare to Far Cry? Which, was sorta linear in its objectives but a lot less linear in how you approached them. (the only truely non-linear part was probably the kill the radio towers portion of the thing). Not that I'm going to keep this thing. Though suppose I could always download it on Steam one day.

I've got AVP2 en route from eBay so I'll play that for a while, assuming I can get my DVD drive working.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: General Battuta on April 30, 2009, 03:26:42 pm
Actually, I liked the second part too. VERY good atmosphere and interesting, even if more linear.

You guys are saying linear? How does it compare to Far Cry? Which, was sorta linear in its objectives but a lot less linear in how you approached them. (the only truely non-linear part was probably the kill the radio towers portion of the thing). Not that I'm going to keep this thing. Though suppose I could always download it on Steam one day.

I've got AVP2 en route from eBay so I'll play that for a while, assuming I can get my DVD drive working.

Crysis is overall more linear than Far Cry, and what nonlinearity there is is largely in the first half. The second half of the game has a lot of corridor-esque sequences.

It's fair enough to like the second half, but it felt like Halo 2 in its frustrating gameplay incoherence.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Ziame on April 30, 2009, 04:08:34 pm
So if I buy Crysis from Steam, no Securom?


No CD/DVD-ROM no secuROM
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Dark RevenantX on April 30, 2009, 05:12:34 pm
You may be able to stick your Crysis CD Key into Steam, download that version, and play it.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 30, 2009, 05:41:40 pm
Don't have it yet.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: CP5670 on April 30, 2009, 05:59:08 pm
So if I buy Crysis from Steam, no Securom?


No CD/DVD-ROM no secuROM

No, it doesn't work that way. The vast majority of games that have Securom on the retail version also have it on the Steam version. It doesn't check for the DVD, but the exe still silently installs the Securom virtual driver. This also applies to demos of Securom games, for that matter.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 30, 2009, 06:04:35 pm
No, it doesn't work that way. The vast majority of games that have Securom on the retail version also have it on the Steam version. It doesn't check for the DVD, but the exe still silently installs the Securom virtual driver. This also applies to demos of Securom games, for that matter.

There's no reason a demo should be packing that ****.
If PC gaming is truely dying it's definately because of DRM. Having a game screw up my computer is a definate reason to ask why anyone would want to put up with this ****.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: CP5670 on April 30, 2009, 06:10:06 pm
No, it doesn't work that way. The vast majority of games that have Securom on the retail version also have it on the Steam version. It doesn't check for the DVD, but the exe still silently installs the Securom virtual driver. This also applies to demos of Securom games, for that matter.

There's no reason a demo should be packing that ****.
If PC gaming is truely dying it's definately because of DRM. Having a game screw up my computer is a definate reason to ask why anyone would want to put up with this ****.

The publishers think that will deter the crackers from decrypting the exes. :rolleyes: I rarely bother with demos anymore because of this, as it's often harder to find a crack for the demo than the full game.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 30, 2009, 06:14:39 pm
THE DEMO? There's no need of that!
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 30, 2009, 06:16:52 pm
The publishers think that will deter the crackers from decrypting the exes. :rolleyes: I rarely bother with demos anymore because of this, as it's often harder to find a crack for the demo than the full game.

It's amazing when you think about it. A few years ago, companies were giving away a 3rd of a game for free (ie DOOM and other shareware).
Now you can't even play a demo without getting violated. Maybe that's the reason why most of the games I play are a few years old. (aside from the reason my PC isn't top notch)
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 30, 2009, 06:22:09 pm
I just got a new PC, 4GB DDR3, 1080p screen, 9600GT... The newest game I play is SOASE. Other than that, The Orange Box and older. Favourite games: AoEII, Homeworld2, FSO, SOASE. Notice how only one of those is "New", and it had a budget of less than 1 million dollars?
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on April 30, 2009, 06:24:41 pm
I just got a new PC, 4GB DDR3, 1080p screen, 9600GT... The newest game I play is SOASE. Other than that, The Orange Box and older. Favourite games: AoEII, Homeworld2, FSO, SOASE. Notice how only one of those is "New", and it had a budget of less than 1 million dollars?

Hey right now the main game I'm playing is VGA Planets 3. Do you want to know how old THAT is??? ;)
Think the newest game I've played is either HL2 or Painkiller.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Pred the Penguin on May 01, 2009, 07:50:50 pm
The newest game I played on my computer? Maybe Rise of Legends, but that really sucked. =/

I actually enjoyed the first part of Crysis a lot, but that's all I got to play...
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Triple Ace on May 01, 2009, 08:10:12 pm
I guess I'm one of the few lucky people that have not had one problem with securom. I did have the 1335 error when I tried to install the 1.2 patch. But that just turned out to be a bad download as it worked once I redownloaded from another site. As for Crysis and Warhead, I loved them both and eagerly await Crysis 2.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Pred the Penguin on May 02, 2009, 02:07:24 am
There's gonna be a Crysis 2? O_o
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on May 02, 2009, 02:29:24 am
There's gonna be a Crysis 2? O_o

Meh. Doesn't mean it'll have anything to do with Crysis 1. (see Farcry 1 + 2)
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Triple Ace on May 02, 2009, 12:51:19 pm
Crysis is supposed to be a trilogy not counting Warhead. Cryengine 3 is also coming to consoles, and with Crytek stating they will have no more pc exclusives, it looks like Crysis 2 will be on 360 and PS3 as well as PC.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Ransom on May 02, 2009, 01:09:43 pm
Meh. Doesn't mean it'll have anything to do with Crysis 1. (see Farcry 1 + 2)
That was because Ubisoft kept the Far Cry license after Crytek moved to EA. Far Cry 2 wasn't made by the same development team. Crysis isn't in the same situation at all.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Ziame on May 02, 2009, 02:17:03 pm
The newest game I play is Medieval II Total War
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: blackhole on May 04, 2009, 02:50:55 am
Securom is the reason there have been no good PC games.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Pred the Penguin on May 04, 2009, 09:15:07 am
There are a few good games that are relatively new.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on May 04, 2009, 10:54:55 pm
There are no good games that are relatively new.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Ransom on May 05, 2009, 12:46:38 am
Oh, please. Depending on what you class as 'relatively new', there's plenty. If you haven't found anything of interest in the last year then you're not looking very hard.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on May 05, 2009, 01:07:41 am
Well, now that you mention it, there is DarkStar One... :nervous:

It's one of those games that I want to own despite not having the proper system requirements to play it.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Dilmah G on May 05, 2009, 08:46:34 am
This beats everything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1J9TMwXvSA

 :pimp:
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Ziame on May 05, 2009, 01:48:47 pm
 :wtf: no good new games?

1 Medieval II Total War
2 Empire Total War
3 Silent Threat Reborn  :nervous:
4 Call of Duty 4 *shrugs* relatively new
5 Mount & Blade IS kinda new... only couple of months  :p
6 GTA IV kinda good though not great
7 Mass Effect kicks some serious ass (and stfu it's good)
8 Mirror's Edge is great too
9 Spore is nice if you're a kid... but is it a bad thing?
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: BloodEagle on May 05, 2009, 02:17:24 pm
I've only played the demo, but I feel safe adding Braid to the list of 'relatively new' and good games.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on May 05, 2009, 10:33:48 pm
:wtf: no good new games?

1 Medieval II Total War

System requirements too high for me to care.


2 Empire Total War

Too much RAM and HD space required for me to care.


3 Silent Threat Reborn  :nervous:

Doesn't count.


4 Call of Duty 4 *shrugs* relatively new

Requirements for video card memory turns me off.


5 Mount & Blade IS kinda new... only couple of months  :p

While this game reminds me of Freelancer, it's nowhere close to what Freelancer delivers. Translation: I'll get bored after a while.


6 GTA IV kinda good though not great

Exorbitant system requirements means I couldn't give a hoot.


7 Mass Effect kicks some serious ass (and stfu it's good)

System requirements too high for me to care.


8 Mirror's Edge is great too

Too much RAM required for me to care.


9 Spore is nice if you're a kid... but is it a bad thing?

High PC system requirements and DRM presence means I don't really care.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: General Battuta on May 05, 2009, 10:48:49 pm
So there are no good games...because you can't run them?
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Rhymes on May 05, 2009, 11:35:54 pm
 :wtf:  How old IS your computer?
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Flipside on May 05, 2009, 11:56:46 pm
Peggle?
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Ransom on May 06, 2009, 01:40:30 am
I don't think it's fair to make judgements like 'there are no good new games' when it doesn't sound like you've played any.

Have you looked into consoles? Most of the good titles can be found there as well.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: eliex on May 06, 2009, 02:32:57 am
Have you looked into consoles? Most of the good titles can be found there as well.

Not to mention that you can play any game for that console: no need for spec upgrades.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on May 06, 2009, 02:40:36 am
:wtf:  How old IS your computer?

How old ... four years, I think, probably more. It's an IBM PC that was acquired by Lenovo and subsequently given away as a free gift when my family's Internet connection was upgraded.


Peggle?

Maybe, but it does get a bit frustrating and boring after a while. Bejeweled Twist is a bit more accurate, but it doesn't offer Mac support.


I don't think it's fair to make judgements like 'there are no good new games' when it doesn't sound like you've played any.

Have you looked into consoles? Most of the good titles can be found there as well.

I have seen some console gameplay at my local retailers and while I sit on the train. However, I'm still more or less entrenched in the computer era, where the PC and laptop serves as a workplace, playground and media hub all in one. In addition, there are quite a number of older and/or open-source, free games out there that can more or less satisfy the games I want to play without high system requirements (FS2, D3, Tyrian 2000, Raptor and The Battle for Wesnoth, for instance), so I see virtually no need to get a console or play a game that's ultra-realistic but have exorbitant system requirements.

I honestly do not see the point in getting a souped-up PC. What's the point if...

1) I don't have the space in my house to accommodate it; and
2) technology advances so quickly that, whenever you buy something new, it becomes outdated in 24 hours?

I find it pointless and an unnecessary drain on my money. I'd rather play a game that runs smoothly on what I have than own a game that's very pretty but runs so slowly on my computer to the point of it being unplayable.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Ransom on May 06, 2009, 04:42:51 am
Nothing wrong with that at all. However, you were the one who claimed there were no good new games when you've not played any of them and evidently have little interest in doing so.

I completely respect your choice not to bother with the endless cycle of upgrading, but I also hasten to add that you're overstating how high modern system requirements are and how quickly PCs become outdated. My current machine has no components newer than two years, none of which were state-of-the-art even when they were freshly released, and I'm yet to encounter a game it can't handle comfortably on high settings. System requirements have slowed down enormously and are now more or less dictated by the current console generation. Only a handful of games - such as the one this thread is about - are likely to go very far above that until the next console generation rolls around in 2012 or so.

Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Ziame on May 06, 2009, 09:37:01 am
Well, Androgeos, saying "THERE ARE NO GOOD GAMES CAUSE I CAN'T RUN THEM ON MY BRAND NEW FOUR-YEAR OLD COMPUTER" is kinda... not right?

If you wanna play games (new games at least) you just have to upgrade your computer once a year or two (I upgrade over the year). It is not so expensive, and IMO graphics are worth it.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Mongoose on May 06, 2009, 01:09:10 pm
I completely respect your choice not to bother with the endless cycle of upgrading, but I also hasten to add that you're overstating how high modern system requirements are and how quickly PCs become outdated. My current machine has no components newer than two years, none of which were state-of-the-art even when they were freshly released, and I'm yet to encounter a game it can't handle comfortably on high settings. System requirements have slowed down enormously and are now more or less dictated by the current console generation. Only a handful of games - such as the one this thread is about - are likely to go very far above that until the next console generation rolls around in 2012 or so.
And in addition to all of that, it's never been cheaper (to the best of my knowledge) to put together a relatively beefy system.  I recently helped my family buy a new *gasp* Dell desktop, and I was flabbergasted at how much system one could buy for so little.  They wound up getting a Core 2 Duo 2.66 GHz, 4 GB of RAM, some sort of relatively good nVidia card, and a rather large flatscreen, all for significantly under $1000 or so.  Sure, all of that isn't exactly top-of-the-line, and the actual hardware may not be of the highest quality, but it's still a lot of system for the money, and unless you're a hardcore technophile (which it seems you aren't), you probably wouldn't care anyway.  Though it's currently being used for not much more than e-mail and Word, I know that their system could comfortably run most/all of the titles that Ziame mentioned.  I've been meaning to throw FS2_Open on there, just so I can finally see how pretty normal maps are. :p
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Flipside on May 06, 2009, 01:43:34 pm
To be honest, the cramper on most games is graphics requirements, not the whole computer, even a slow CPU is actually up to the job in a great number of games, it's the graphics themselves that take the power.

Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Dark RevenantX on May 07, 2009, 08:19:09 pm
To be honest, the cramper on most games is graphics requirements, not the whole computer, even a slow CPU is actually up to the job in a great number of games, it's the graphics themselves that take the power.
Tell that to GTA4.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Flipside on May 07, 2009, 08:22:21 pm
That's why I said most games :p

You want an extreme exception to the rule then Supreme Commander would be probably one of the best examples, that one needs a serious processor more than anything else.
Title: Re: Crysis is a big fat piece of ****
Post by: Kosh on May 07, 2009, 11:29:47 pm
Try booting the computer from a Windows installation CD to see if the drive works. If it can read the CD, then you have a software problem caused by whatever DRM Crysis installed.


DRM, punishing paying customers wherever they may be.