[colecampbell666]

Actually, the .OGG files are not all FS2 cutscenes. Some are for FSPort, consult these lists to figure out where they all go.
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Cutscenes(FS1)
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Cutscenes_(FS2)

[mFuSE]

I put the "old" mve files under "\FreeSpace2\data\movies", the new ogg in "\FreeSpace2\mediavps\data\movies"

It would suffice to just have the oggs in \freespace2\data\movies, since there is no noticeable difference between the mves and the oggs, but the mves take this much more disk space *stretches hands really far apart*.

Actually, the .OGG files are not all FS2 cutscenes. Some are for FSPort, consult these lists to figure out where they all go.
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Cutscenes(FS1)
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Cutscenes_(FS2)

oh, diskspace is not a problem ^^
deleting the old files would be a problem for the retail freespace 2

moved them and started debug-version ... and keep them and started again ... the result looks pretty the same :/

Umm, have you tried a non-debug build? Debug builds are sure to give errors, since that's what they're used for: searching and pinpointing errors that occur. They'll even show error reports of incidents that do not actually affect gameplay and are not shown by normal builds.

... Vista, and especially a 64bit Vista, can easily have issues with running games. I have no other suggestions than to make sure that your drivers are up-to-date. Or maybe try compatibility modes for the builds and the Launcher.

yes, i tried all version i can get - they show all the same behavior

[karajorma]

oh, diskspace is not a problem ^^
deleting the old files would be a problem for the retail freespace 2

Then delete the .oggs. You only need one or the other. You really don't need both.

[mFuSE]

oh, diskspace is not a problem ^^
deleting the old files would be a problem for the retail freespace 2

Then delete the .oggs. You only need one or the other. You really don't need both.

why, is there a problem? oO
Retail Freespace2 uses the MVR files, SCP can both - but playes the ogg which look much better :-)

[chief1983]

See I'm confused, because I thought the oggs were made directly from the mves, which would mean that they're the same quality or less.  Unless there's some sort of software post-processing going on in the engine, which I doubt.

[Jeff Vader]

See I'm confused, because I thought the oggs were made directly from the mves, which would mean that they're the same quality or less.

Yah, that's how I've understood it too. The oggs should have a tad bit lower quality but you really need to eat, drink and breathe hi-fi to be able to notice a difference.

[chief1983]

Right, I'm saying there's either no noticeable difference or they're worse, meaning that the mves should be good enough if you happen to already have those laying around.  We like to discourage downloading of the oggs in the first place if that's the case, since it's just wasting hosting bandwidth.

[jr2]

He prolly doesn't know how to get .mves to play in Windows directly.  Doesn't VLC Media Player play them?  Or no?  Mine plays audio, but no video, but I'm not sure it's the latest version.  I seem to remember it working correctly in the past.

[mFuSE]

He prolly doesn't know how to get .mves to play in Windows directly.  Doesn't VLC Media Player play them?  Or no?  Mine plays audio, but no video, but I'm not sure it's the latest version.  I seem to remember it working correctly in the past.

no, you need the mve player for that.
or you can convert the mve to exe which can be played solo ....

But - i think the mve are smoothed and doesn't look so roughly rasterized.


... but i think i also never compared them directly ... maybe it's tricking my because i saw the mve in fullscreen resolution and the ogg directly under windows 

[jr2]

Mmm, in the ogg, just make your player go full screen, that should be good.  Ofc, that depends on your player capabilities.  Try VLC Media Player or the KMPlayer; they're nice.  Then there's Winamp, but it's gotten a bit bloated lately.  KMPlayer takes Winamp plugins, and is pretty good.  I like it.  VLC Media Player is pretty light weight and opens fast.

[mFuSE]

...But - i think the mve are smoothed and doesn't look so roughly rasterized.

omf ... of course it should be "the ogg are smoothed and " ... 


sadly my winamp can't play mve's, but with the ogg it work just fine, so does windows media player btw

[colecampbell666]

VLC plays .MVEs IIRC.

[chief1983]

I don't see it in the supported list on their website.  I wouldn't think it could, since it's such a proprietary format.  However, if you put a codec on your computer so that other apps can play them, it might able to utilize that through DirectShow, but only on Windows.  Not sure if it can do that though.

[Descenter]

Hey dont know if anyone noticed or not, but the movie file dl's are broken.  Site says they have been removed for some reason.  Might want to look into fixing that.

[Jeff Vader]

It probably has gone a bit unnoticed since Turey's Installer can download them. Oh well, there's always FreeSpaceMods for those who want to download them manually.

[NGTM-1R]

We are up to 3.6.10 now, right? This needs to be changed.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

We are up to 3.6.10 now, right? This needs to be changed.

No 3.6.9 is still the latest official release.  3.6.10 builds are not final yet.   

[chief1983]

Soon though!

[134th Barracudas]

Ok, am I still sleeping or he said "soon"? O.O
I've been waiting for this bulids for two long years XD

[chief1983]

And coincidentally, that's about the number of really serious bugs we need to get fixed I think.