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Offline morris13

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subspace artillery help
I'm trying to work with the ssm.tbl and I'm having some problems with it. I dug up a couple old threads where Bobboau explains it and followed the instructions, creating a new wordpad document with the proper fields and saving it as ssm.tbl into the table folder. However, I found that whenever I have an ssm.tbl file in the table folder, the fs2 hangs and crashes the system when I try to load it. I'm not sure what could be causing this, any ideas?
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Offline Fattony

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subspace artillery help
I get that as well. I was targetting a Sath with a ****  load of Cyclops and the T-Laser and the damn game stalled.

Try knocking down the spread and number of missiles. The graphics engine might be getting ****ed over.

 

Offline Raven2001

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uhhh, what is ssm.tbl????
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Why, you ask? What, do I look like a Shivan to you?!?


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Offline morris13

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Originally posted by Fattony:
I get that as well. I was targetting a Sath with a ****  load of Cyclops and the T-Laser and the damn game stalled.

Try knocking down the spread and number of missiles. The graphics engine might be getting ****ed over.

No, you misunderstand. FS2 crashes when you try to launch the game. Its not a graphics issue. You hit the 'play' button on the launcher and it just goes 'phht' and dies. =P
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Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by Raven2001:
uhhh, what is ssm.tbl????

It's the file that defines the subspace missile strike; it was originally intended that you could use the targeting laser (still in the weapons.tbl) - when you hit a ship with it, a bunch of helios, etc, would jump out of subspace and hit the ship you hit.

i think   dropped it as it would give the player an unlimited number of high-power missiles, but you can still edit the ssm.tbl file to get it to work - I think.


 

Offline Darkage

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Use the one that bobuao made and just edit it or did you do that?

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Offline morris13

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Thats exactly what I did, in fact =)
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hmmm... sounds like an idea I'd like to use in my campaign!  

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Offline morris13

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Where's Bobboau when you need him? =P
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what?

post your ssm tbl here

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Offline morris13

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;; subspace missile strike definition
$SSM:
+weapon:   Helios
+count:           5
+WarpRadius:    200
+WarpTime:      5
+Radius:   500
+Offset:   500


I was wondering, should it be "helios" with quotes like in the allowed sections of the ships tbl?  Its strange because its not just that it doesn't work, if I have an ssm.tbl in the folder AT ALL freespace 2 will NOT run. It locks up my computer after I try to start it. Very odd.
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Offline Bobboau

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and this was pasted into the ssm.tbl

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Offline Raven2001

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Originally posted by Black Ace:
hmmm... sounds like an idea I'd like to use in my campaign!  


Hey aldo_14... Sonuds like a good idea to use in OUR campaign      

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Offline aldo_14

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It wouldn't do much good against the ########, seeing as it has #### ###### ######.  

I think giving the player an unlimited number of missile strikes might be a bit dodgy.....certainly it's an option if we can find a good use for it.

I think that was the main reason they cut it - it's not particularly easy to use in a fair way, unless you limit the number of strikes per mission.

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[This message has been edited by aldo_14 (edited 06-20-2001).]

 
so the tageting laser does serve a purpose.  or it did, before   took out its primary function.

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Offline morris13

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What I did was type that into wordpad and then save it as 'ssm.tbl' into the freespace/data/tables folder.
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Offline Snipes

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Morris; extract the original ssm tbl, and paste it in...

raven... can you picture 200+ tempest warping out of subspace? >:D
     
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Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by Snipes:
Morris; extract the original ssm tbl, and paste it in...

raven... can you picture 200+ tempest warping out of subspace? >

the only difference between Morrises stuff and the ssm.tbl (barring the entry) is that he doesn't have an #end entry.  This could be why it crashes, if you don't have it.


 

Offline morris13

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Hrm.. I was sure I had an end entry in there before, I must have done something to it. Either way, extracting the ssm.tbl and modifying it rather than trying to make a new one from scratch has worked fine, thanx for the help =)
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Originally posted by Raven2001:
Hey aldo_14... Sonuds like a good idea to use in OUR campaign      


*sigh* That's what they all think - until they start testing the darn thing.

The main problem with the SSM is that the missiles/bombs/whatever warp in a set distance from the PLAYER SHIP. That's what the "+Offset: 500" line is - those Helioses will warp in 500 meters from your ship and head towards the target. Even if the target is at the maximum range of the targeting laser (don't remember what that is, exactly), those bombs will appear 500 meters from the player.

Of course, you can change that value to be whatever you want, but it is a set value and will not change according to the distance from the player to the targeted ship.



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