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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Scooby_Doo on March 11, 2007, 09:22:36 pm

Title: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on March 11, 2007, 09:22:36 pm
Theres something not quite right with it and I can't seem to put my finger on it.  :shaking:
BTW i've found quite a few different/odd/funny/wow imaginary aircraft that could look very cool
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/MigFerret1.jpg)

(http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/MIGFerrettMain.jpg)
(http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/MIGFerrettLowFrontAngle.jpg)(http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/MIGFerrettRearAngle.jpg)
(http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/MIGFerrettCU.jpg)(http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/MIGFerrettLeft.jpg)
(http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/MIG%20FERRETT%20BOX%20ART.jpg)(http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/MIG%20FERRETT%20ITALERI%20BOX%20ART.jpg)
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Unknown Target on March 11, 2007, 09:25:16 pm
Neato, but the rear end of the cockpit is way too long, and the big thing on the center needs to be pulled up/the sides around it need to be lowered, so it's more raised than blended into the body :) (If you want to make it look like the pictures :) ).
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Sarafan on March 11, 2007, 10:02:53 pm
That fighter is beautifull! :nod: :yes:
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Water on March 12, 2007, 12:08:09 am
If you sort out the wing roots - that will sort the first stage. You're going to have to spend more than your usual amount of polys though. It's a nice complex shape  :)
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Getter Robo G on March 12, 2007, 01:01:01 am
I see three major differences: (unless you planned it that way)

1.) you have 3 rear intakes versus the depicted 4.  The back of the raised cockpit has to go all the way back and divide the rear section with 2 vents per side. you have it ending before the vent in the middle of the three.

2.) The flaps for the air brakes are not defined (probably going to be added as a texture later on I would guess at this point).

3.) You side intakes are totally off. Doesn't help you got three diff ref sources and 1 of them differs greatly (the angled part of the outer side sloping downward towards the wings while the fuselage side is flat).

That's my impression.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on March 12, 2007, 03:03:41 am
Quote from: Getter Robo G on March 12, 2007, 01:01:01 am
I see three major differences: (unless you planned it that way)

1.) you have 3 rear intakes versus the depicted 4.  The back of the raised cockpit has to go all the way back and divide the rear section with 2 vents per side. you have it ending before the vent in the middle of the three.

2.) The flaps for the air brakes are not defined (probably going to be added as a texture later on I would guess at this point).

3.) You side intakes are totally off. Doesn't help you got three diff ref sources and 1 of them differs greatly (the angled part of the outer side sloping downward towards the wings while the fuselage side is flat).

That's my impression.

1. Good catch, I'll fix that.
2. Flaps are kinda unnecessary as this will a space-based version, sorta like my F-19, but they could be textured on.
3. I don't remember how many undo-restarts I had with those. The model is much too shiney to get a good idea of whats what. Although I think the inside-inside of the intake isn't straight up and down rather it's part of the main hull (slanted), unlike the intakes outside wall.


Heres some more better looking ones, they used a dull finish instead of gloss.
Hmm wish I still had my model of it when i was a kid.  :sigh:
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on March 12, 2007, 04:08:06 am
How about this?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/MigFerret2.jpg)
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Vengence on March 12, 2007, 05:03:47 am
Nice plane, too bad it can never be a spacecraft. If you can make it spacecraft-like then I might like it.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on March 12, 2007, 06:05:08 am
Replace the air intakes with bussard scopes, add gun mounts and vola  ;7
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Bobboau on March 12, 2007, 12:52:20 pm
it's too short, compared to the source it looks squished. (exept for the tail fins)
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: takashi on March 12, 2007, 04:58:09 pm
a 3d cockpit versus the current hill like rise would realy add to the feel of flying an earth fighter in space.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on March 13, 2007, 04:21:42 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/MigFerret5.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/MigFerret3.jpg)
The vertical layout isn't quite the same... mines a bit fatter
Cockpit layout isn't correct, I just cut the cockpit out of the hull to give some sense.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: takashi on March 14, 2007, 05:16:50 pm
looking nice. but where the gun/missle ports? you dont want a starfox: command situation with lasers shooting off of blank places in the wings!
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on March 14, 2007, 07:21:12 pm
Well the missiles are house internally, as for the guns, I don't know if the Ferret would have had guns, the F-119 doesn't.  For the starship version, possibly under the intakes, only real place thats thick enough.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: takashi on March 15, 2007, 09:30:32 pm
maybe mounted under the wings, like a transport jets engines?
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Getter Robo G on March 30, 2007, 09:22:18 pm
Update?  Sorry I lost track of this thread for a while....

Yeah looks a LOT closer to teh pics! I see one possible discrepency, the wing vent's outer wall. You got a sort of rounded cap raised up off the hull. In teh pics it slants downward at an angle forward all the way to the hull with no bump.

Damn it's so shiny it is hard to tell details on that sucker. :D

Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on March 30, 2007, 10:30:57 pm
Theres also some work needed to be done with the base of the tail rudders.

I think a few days after I posted that last message I got my new computer up and running, so it kinda took a back seat.  Boy do I have the models that need to be finished.

Ready to be finalized:
Waiting for multiangle turrets:
Converting now:
Painted and ready to convert:
UV Mapped:
Primed and ready to uvmap:
Incomplete as of yet:

and thats not all... in my imcomplete folder (I keep spare/old/not really want to work on stuff) i've got:
broadsword that needs repainting BADLY ewwwww
thunderwing that needs to be fixed, I used mesh smoothing on it  ::) YUCK
jotunheim, the cross between my aurora and the event horizon
krell, the one from privater 2, needs repainting badly too
morningstar needs repainting too

I'll post pics of those last ones sometime down the road
 :shaking: :shaking: :shaking: :shaking: :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: jr2 on March 31, 2007, 03:41:43 am
Quote from: Scooby_Doo on March 14, 2007, 07:21:12 pm
Well the missiles are house internally, as for the guns, I don't know if the Ferret would have had guns, the F-119 doesn't.  For the starship version, possibly under the intakes, only real place thats thick enough.
Never heard of the F-119 - did you mean the F-117?  BTW, I like the way the stealth F-22 does the trick - they house the gun in a port that opens when the gun fires, and then closes afterwards.  Keeps it stealthy... I'm sure Stealth would love that.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: IceFire on April 01, 2007, 12:17:30 am
Is the F-22's gun mount a port that opens and closes?  I thought it was a thin protective strip that broke on contact with the first round (just like WWII style guns that were protected from dust using red tape).
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: jr2 on April 01, 2007, 03:12:34 am
Nope.  Google for a video of it being tested; it's cool.  8)
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Dysko on April 01, 2007, 05:11:46 am
Quote from: jr2 on March 31, 2007, 03:41:43 am
Never heard of the F-119 - did you mean the F-117?  BTW, I like the way the stealth F-22 does the trick - they house the gun in a port that opens when the gun fires, and then closes afterwards.  Keeps it stealthy... I'm sure Stealth would love that.
Probably he was refering to the F-19 (since he made also that plane), that was a "fake" project used to draw the people's attention from the F-117 project.
*runs before Snail sees the post*
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Snail on April 01, 2007, 05:13:17 am
You just HAD to show up, didn't you. ;) :P
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on April 01, 2007, 05:29:35 am
Actually I meant the F-117, although theortically the F-19 wouldn't have them too.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: jr2 on April 01, 2007, 12:46:52 pm
(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/656/f22missilecs7.th.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrqP1v8PGQg) -short & sweet, no music
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7568/f22guntg9.th.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdRVbr1OfKc) - nice music, lots of 8) video
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: IceFire on April 01, 2007, 08:52:02 pm
Quote from: jr2 on April 01, 2007, 03:12:34 am
Nope.  Google for a video of it being tested; it's cool.  8)
Aha...interesting!  Yes indeed there is a door.  I think the old method was what I was reading about proposed back with the YF-22.  Obviously things have moved along.  No wonder its so bloody expensive! :D
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: jr2 on April 02, 2007, 03:09:17 am
Hehe, and badass! ;7
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 14, 2007, 05:05:01 am
I just love bumping old threads of mine.....  :D

Panelling this one sucks big time... especially around the intakes,the geometry is a bit weird, plus the fact it's black *rubs sore eyes*
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/MigFerret6.jpg)
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Eviscerator on October 15, 2007, 01:29:53 am
Impressive as usual.  :nod:
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: colecampbell666 on October 15, 2007, 08:34:43 am
Quote from: Eviscerator on October 15, 2007, 01:29:53 am
Impressive as usual.  :nod:
QFT.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: chief1983 on October 15, 2007, 09:18:34 am
You know, since this is already bumped, maybe Darth can clear something up for me.  I happen to have a model and an old toy replica of the F-19, however, I thought it was more of a misinterpreted leak than a decoy.  I read that somehow a small amount of info about the Nighthawk project was leaked out, and the design that got interpreted from that info was the F-19, which led to the line of Monogram and Revell models and other die-cast metal toys and such.  When the F-117 was finally revealed, people felt like morons for having been so far off.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: ssmit132 on October 16, 2007, 03:07:33 am
I thought that the F-19 was a planned aircraft that was scrapped. I have it for YSFlight, and it's in Tom Clancy's novel 'Red Storm Rising.' (That was a great book by the way. I chose to read it for an English assignment.)
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: chief1983 on October 16, 2007, 09:00:47 am
*grumble* I just know this is going to suck me into wikipedia for 3 hours now...

edit:  as I guessed, Tom Clancy's book was written before the F-117 was public knowledge, hence why he would have used the F-19 instead.  He didn't know any better (or couldn't let the public know he did).

Wikipedia entry for the F-19 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19)

I have this toy (http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/TESTORS%20F-19%20STEALTH%20PAGE.htm)

According to the F-117 article also on Wikipedia, F-19 was the assumed designation for the next fighter in development because the last plane to enter service was the F-18 Hornet.  The plane people know as the F-19 however, was nothing like the F-117 in that it lacked many of the noticeable stealth enhancements the F-117 has, such as no curved surfaces.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Eviscerator on October 16, 2007, 07:22:39 pm
Quote from: colecampbell666 on October 15, 2007, 08:34:43 am
Quote from: Eviscerator on October 15, 2007, 01:29:53 am
Impressive as usual.  :nod:
QFT.

?????

Quote from: chief1983 on October 16, 2007, 09:00:47 am
*grumble* I just know this is going to suck me into wikipedia for 3 hours now...

edit:  as I guessed, Tom Clancy's book was written before the F-117 was public knowledge, hence why he would have used the F-19 instead.  He didn't know any better (or couldn't let the public know he did).

Wikipedia entry for the F-19 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19)

I have this toy (http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/TESTORS%20F-19%20STEALTH%20PAGE.htm)

According to the F-117 article also on Wikipedia, F-19 was the assumed designation for the next fighter in development because the last plane to enter service was the F-18 Hornet.  The plane people know as the F-19 however, was nothing like the F-117 in that it lacked many of the noticeable stealth enhancements the F-117 has, such as no curved surfaces.

Looks like you answered your own question.  :nod: I remember all the crazy speculation about the project when I first entered service. There were actually several designs that various civilian engineers came up with that could be viable speculation after the programs existance became known//suspected. Most of those speculations were made into plastic models and toys. Microprose even made a couple F-19 Stealth Fighter games for Comm 64, IBM PC, Apple IIIe, Mac, and Amiga.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: chief1983 on October 16, 2007, 07:26:02 pm
Yup, the F-19 Stealth Fighter game was later modified when the info on the F-117 was released, and basically it was just a name and model swap, plus some more campaigns.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Eviscerator on October 16, 2007, 07:34:28 pm
Actually no, not really. The game play was very similar, but it had an entirely new engine that looked and performed heads and shoulders above the original. New campaign layouts that reflected more current events. You cold fly the "real" F-117 or Microprose's version that was less stealthy but had a M-61A1 20mm gun. I had F-117 on 486.

The F-19 I had on Comm 64 was mostly wireframe models in monochrome. On PC it was color, sort of, but still mostly wireframe. Amiga was better, but not by much. Back in those days it was more about gameplay, than graphics. Betters graphics tech was available, but few could afford the rigs required for it.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: chief1983 on October 16, 2007, 07:51:49 pm
I was going off what I read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19_Stealth_Fighter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19_Stealth_Fighter).
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 16, 2007, 09:16:45 pm
Quote from: Eviscerator on October 16, 2007, 07:34:28 pm
Actually no, not really. The game play was very similar, but it had an entirely new engine that looked and performed heads and shoulders above the original. New campaign layouts that reflected more current events. You cold fly the "real" F-117 or Microprose's version that was less stealthy but had a M-61A1 20mm gun. I had F-117 on 486.

The F-19 I had on Comm 64 was mostly wireframe models in monochrome. On PC it was color, sort of, but still mostly wireframe. Amiga was better, but not by much. Back in those days it was more about gameplay, than graphics. Betters graphics tech was available, but few could afford the rigs required for it.

 :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/Nighthawk-1.jpg)
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Mav on October 17, 2007, 01:44:13 pm
Lol - you had to show off FS SCP on that remark, didn't you? ;)

Btw. - I too remember these "F19"-models, eventually also a game (though only a glimpse of the latter) and the "Mig 37". Nice models you made there :) .
I once started a Shivan fighter that's based off of the basic F19-shape; but it was one of my very first 3d-models and thus will most likely need a total overhaul :sigh: ; so, for the moment, it's put on hold... :(

So - just continue your work, you're producing a lot of impressive models, as far as I can see :) .
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Eviscerator on October 18, 2007, 01:29:27 am
Quote from: chief1983 on October 16, 2007, 07:51:49 pm
I was going off what I read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19_Stealth_Fighter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-19_Stealth_Fighter).

Yup, that's the original, but you really should know better than to believe everything you read on wiki as information can be posted by anyone. Kinda like the whole internet.  :lol: The last release had an entirely different engine and flight model, not just and upgraded one. He seems to be basing his info simply on the fact that Micoprose coined it "2.0". Well, by that logic Falcon 4.0 is just an upgraded version of 3.0.

Clearly not.

Quote from: Scooby_Doo on October 16, 2007, 09:16:45 pm


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/Nighthawk-1.jpg)

Oooooooooooooooooooooo...... pretty!
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: colecampbell666 on October 18, 2007, 05:32:34 pm
I thought that shot was kinda ugly. All the weird models, the shield indicators. I did like the radar, though.

EDIT: Ooooohhhhh... Is that WCS? The targeted ship is kinda wonky in the target box, though.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Mav on October 19, 2007, 03:47:20 am
Quote from: colecampbell666 on October 18, 2007, 05:32:34 pm
EDIT: Ooooohhhhh... Is that WCS? The targeted ship is kinda wonky in the target box, though.
Sure enough looks like some as-of-yet-unknown-to-me Kilrathi ship, it's silhouette on the shield indicator matches nothing I've so far heard of... And it's name says "Ratoth", though it's not obvious if that's the shipclass or just the designation of this specific in-mission-ship; though that name sounds more like something from the B5 Narn to me then something from the Kilrathi... :nervous:
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 19, 2007, 04:00:52 am
The Ra'toth is gevatter Lars design, I just created the model for it.

Majority of my work is post-Prophecy, in fact near the time Privateer 2 should have occured 2700 and around the time of arena.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: gevatter Lars on October 19, 2007, 04:07:11 am
The Ra'toth is a kilrathi fighters that I had invented and scooby modeled it. Mh I just noticed that the shield indicator is upside down.
As for the name...I never noticed but you are right it sounds indeed a bit Narn like Natoth, G'kars adjutant. But original I thougth abuot something on the line like the Vaktoth.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Mav on October 19, 2007, 04:32:23 am
Yep, that was just who it remembered me of... Though it's not too bad a name for Kilrathi ships either, as you just pointed out - but people who know B5 very good will propably feel someting being a bit out of place with that name...

Oh, and by the way - it does look very interesting :) .

Quote from: Scooby_Doo on October 19, 2007, 04:00:52 am
The Ra'toth is gevatter Lars design, I just created the model for it.

Majority of my work is post-Prophecy, in fact near the time Privateer 2 should have occured 2700 and around the time of arena.
Hm... don't know much of Arena, but Priv2's a bit too far for me (besides the fact that I never could really get it to run - DOS-PC was too slow [read: 30 minutes for landing :ick:] and didn't like the movies, Win-PCs never had working DOS for me, and neither DOSBox nor the WinPatch did help very much yet :sigh: ) - I'm mostly interested in the continuation of the Nephilim conflict, Wasteland Incident for example. Too sad they didn't finish the trilogy that Prophecy was intended to be the first chapter of - I know I would have bought the other two... :(
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: gevatter Lars on October 19, 2007, 07:54:14 am
In some parts of the Arena manual that was released as a PDF for free you could find pieces of what happend during the war. I still hope that there will be more...to know and to play. Prefered on the PC since I won't buy a console anytime soon...most likely never.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Mav on October 19, 2007, 10:14:34 am
Still hope for this too - is that pdf on WCCIC, btw. ?
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: gevatter Lars on October 19, 2007, 10:24:08 am
It is -> http://www.wcnews.com/news/update/8016
The little article also has the link for the download to the PDF (http://images.ea.com/ea/arcade/draft2cRGB.pdf) file. If you know WC a little you will find many small hints from previews games as well as to what happend between Prophecy and Arena. Also some names that are from the community as well as Mods!

Personaly the manual is the best part of Arena ^_^
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Mav on October 19, 2007, 01:51:48 pm
*U-Ouch*!! :wtf: Another WC game's coming out, and it's for the XBox??? :ick: :mad2:

Anyways, thanks for the link - haven't been at CIC for about a year now... would just have missed this one. I hope, they'll release something for PC sooner or later, too. But as we all know M$, if this is for XBox currently, chances are it won't hit PC's before 3 years after initial release :ick: (like it happened with Halo 2 - not that I'd have been very interested in that, I just heard what stupid crap was going on... :doubt:)

And - whoa, is there a lot of stuff - I'll have to go through those renders and recordings another day... :) .

I really like what I saw of their ship models so far :cool: - but from a glimpse on one manual-site, it seems to have push-button maneuvers like SW Battlefront 2... :doubt: Where's the pilots' skill in there?? :ick:
Of course, something like this might be funny for a while - but I'd guess, after some time you simply recognize that you actually are'nt really flying this ship... :rolleyes:


Oh, well - lets see how it'll get; critizing will still be possible when it's out or such (not that I'd plan getting an XBox for it...) .
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: gevatter Lars on October 19, 2007, 02:45:13 pm
The game is an arcade type shooter with just one dimension to fly on. Ok sometimes you can go up to fly over a ship but that just it.
Its a simple game made for something you could fit into a gameboy like system. Its cheap (the prize), easy to learn and just meant to be some so called "casual gamer in between" thing. Not meant to be some "complex" flightsim. Well nether was WC or FS in that matter ^_^
I would look into playing that kind of game if it was a "free" game but I won't pay more then 5 bugs, if at all, for this kind of game. There are some free games of that type and why play something you can get for free and legal.
I think I would still play this one for the frenchfries...ah franchise ^_^

Still the handbook is quite impressive.

Oh and there will be a Battlestar Galactica game for XB live....same gameplay as Arena just other models. I think I will prefer BTRL.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: jr2 on October 19, 2007, 03:49:23 pm
Quote from: gevatter Lars on October 19, 2007, 02:45:13 pm
but I won't pay more then 5 bugs, if at all, for this kind of game.

Crunchy?  Or shell-less?  :lol:
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: gevatter Lars on October 19, 2007, 05:12:02 pm
Crunchy of course ^_^
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: jr2 on October 20, 2007, 01:27:45 am
That's my man!!  And some fresh coffee beans to flush it down with, right?  ;)
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 25, 2007, 03:08:00 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/foxbat-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/foxbat-2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/foxbat-3.jpg)
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Titan on October 25, 2007, 05:57:51 am
sweetness. how do you turn cockpit views on, anyhow? what mods/ships have them?
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 25, 2007, 06:07:51 am
In $Flag entry add "Show Ship".  Your model needs to have a cockpit,otherwise it could look weird.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Titan on October 25, 2007, 07:00:26 am
do any INFA HTL ships have cockpits? i know i know they have the external (you see pilot, instead of black glass) but internal?
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: colecampbell666 on October 25, 2007, 03:06:36 pm
All of them. Any ship with a clear windscreen, pilot and HUD is a cockpitted one. Having a flyable one is a different matter.
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Mav on October 30, 2007, 04:09:10 pm
Quote from: Scooby_Doo on October 25, 2007, 03:08:00 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/foxbat-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/foxbat-2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/foxbat-3.jpg)
Nice! :)

And the cockpit even doesn't obscure the view too much :cool: (in contrast to the HTL Erinyes... :sigh: ).
Title: Re: "Mig-37 Ferret"
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 30, 2007, 07:02:53 pm
Actually I had to fix it that, there was a center beam runing straight through the crosshairs.