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Title: Question about a medal
Post by: silentspider on June 15, 2016, 06:49:15 pm
What medal goes in the circular slot in the top center of the medal case? And how do you get it? It's the only one that is a circle, it's nudged between/under the rank and ace medals. I've been searching online for a while now, and surprised (and frustrated) that I am unable to answer this question! >.<
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: Cobra on June 15, 2016, 06:57:20 pm
Play Silent Threat: Reborn to find out. ;)
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: silentspider on June 15, 2016, 07:16:20 pm
Oh, okay! But won't the rest of the medals I got in FSPort be gone when I do that?
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: Cobra on June 15, 2016, 07:29:56 pm
You can use the same pilot between the two campaigns, so no.
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: silentspider on June 15, 2016, 07:33:04 pm
Hmm, I'm using the same pilot, but the medals only appear when I have Great War campaign selected.
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: niffiwan on June 15, 2016, 10:12:10 pm
Unfortunately your pilots stats, including medals, are campaign specific. So you probably can't get the entire medal case filled at the same time (without modding or otherwise messing around with the internals of FSO)
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: Goober5000 on June 15, 2016, 10:56:38 pm
What medal goes in the circular slot in the top center of the medal case? And how do you get it? It's the only one that is a circle, it's nudged between/under the rank and ace medals. I've been searching online for a while now, and surprised (and frustrated) that I am unable to answer this question! >.<

If you mean the one that is not completely a circle but has squarish bits sticking out to the left and right (kind of like Saturn's rings), that is the Wings medal.  It is awarded when you complete the training missions.
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: Cobra on June 16, 2016, 12:02:45 am
I think he means this. (oddly enough my installation of FS2 and FSO is quite old on this rig... strange how I don't have any medals.)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71111768/screen0229.png)

Unfortunately your pilots stats, including medals, are campaign specific. So you probably can't get the entire medal case filled at the same time (without modding or otherwise messing around with the internals of FSO)

Since when? I've swapped between campaigns before and had the same medals. :wtf: Hell, I've done it with FSPort and ST:R.
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: Goober5000 on June 16, 2016, 12:09:32 am
I think he means this. (oddly enough my installation of FS2 and FSO is quite old on this rig... strange how I don't have any medals.)

Whoops, you're very likely correct.  I was looking at the non-MVP medal case.
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: X3N0-Life-Form on June 16, 2016, 12:24:19 am
Since when? I've swapped between campaigns before and had the same medals. :wtf: Hell, I've done it with FSPort and ST:R.
Since 3.7.0 I believe, that's when the new pilot code went in.
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: silentspider on June 16, 2016, 01:02:11 am
Thanks for all the information! Much appreciated :)
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: niffiwan on June 16, 2016, 02:42:45 am
Since when? I've swapped between campaigns before and had the same medals. :wtf: Hell, I've done it with FSPort and ST:R.
Since 3.7.0 I believe, that's when the new pilot code went in.

yeah, that, although I haven't double checked the code to be sure.  I know that ~stats~ are certainly per campaign since I was trying to figure out ways to display the "all time" stats which are recorded in the plr file rather than in the csg files (but gave up because it'd require interface changes, or an undocumented key-stroke to switch between per-campaign & all-time).
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on June 16, 2016, 08:11:23 am
Since when? I've swapped between campaigns before and had the same medals. :wtf: Hell, I've done it with FSPort and ST:R.
Since 3.7.0 I believe, that's when the new pilot code went in.

yeah, that, although I haven't double checked the code to be sure.  I know that ~stats~ are certainly per campaign since I was trying to figure out ways to display the "all time" stats which are recorded in the plr file rather than in the csg files (but gave up because it'd require interface changes, or an undocumented key-stroke to switch between per-campaign & all-time).
Having checked the code, medal unlocks are indeed treated like all other stats (or, to be more precise, they're treated like kills); there's an all-time set stored in the PLR file, and a per-campaign set stored in the CSG file. Like all all-time stats, they'll initially be loaded into the player's current set of stats, but then immediately be overwritten: either by the campaign-specific set when the CSG is loaded, or reset to initial values if there's no CSG file to load (making one wonder what the point of loading the all-time stats into the player stats is in the first place).
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: mjn.mixael on June 16, 2016, 08:52:51 am
Hmm, when I was neck deep in the medals case creation, I was under the impression that medals of matching names (strings) would carry across campaigns. So if your pilot got a GTVA Alliance medal in the main campaign, then switched to a mod that had the same medal, you would already have the medal. But if you switched to a mod without that particular medal, it wouldn't show up at all.

Seems like I was incorrect?
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: silentspider on June 16, 2016, 09:44:17 am
Hmm, when I was neck deep in the medals case creation, I was under the impression that medals of matching names (strings) would carry across campaigns. So if your pilot got a GTVA Alliance medal in the main campaign, then switched to a mod that had the same medal, you would already have the medal. But if you switched to a mod without that particular medal, it wouldn't show up at all.

Seems like I was incorrect?
Well, even within the same mod, if you switch campaigns (for example, from Great War to Operation Templar or Silent Threat,) the medals are set to whatever you achieved in that campaign only.
Title: Re: Question about a medal
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on June 16, 2016, 12:04:09 pm
Hmm, when I was neck deep in the medals case creation, I was under the impression that medals of matching names (strings) would carry across campaigns. So if your pilot got a GTVA Alliance medal in the main campaign, then switched to a mod that had the same medal, you would already have the medal. But if you switched to a mod without that particular medal, it wouldn't show up at all.

Seems like I was incorrect?
That's how the all-time stats medal vector works, but there's no way to actually look at your all-time stats in-game.