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Offline carn1x

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Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
So am I the only one, or does any one else feel that with Volition laid a few turds with their capital ship designs? Some they totally nailed so it balances out happily for me however:

- Lucifer: Is this an ant with it's 4 hind legs ripped off?
- Typhon: All I can ever think of is a dead bull-squid from half life
- Colossus: This just feels like a missed opportunity to me, especially considering the Hecate looks so sophisticated and "out of the ashes of the GTD." In a full-bright environment where you can spin it around, it can look OK, but I think that from some angles it really has a crappy shape/silhouette. Maybe the size of it just restricted the polycount too much? 
- Hades: I kinda like this, but the texturing just clashes horribly. I understand that it's supposed to be a fusion of Terran/Shivan, however the texture just feels like a bad photoshop job to me.

On the other hand:

- Orion: This is pure Terran awesomeness
- Demon: I still feel like the Demon looks a scrunched up, but I've always seen it as living in the shadow of the Lucifer, so that kinda fits its personality
- Hecate: I love this ship
- Ravana: Very nice
- Iceni: Looks a bit small and weak but I've always like to think of it as the Hecate's evil little brother
- Hatshepsut: It reminds me a lot of a vacuum cleaner, but I still think it kicks ass
- Sathanas: This is the pinnacle of Volition's capital ship design, outstanding

I don't feel this way about any of the other ships. I think made all the Cruisers, Corvettes and single-man craft perfectly. There are a few transports and freighters that look a bit boring, but those kinds of ship are supposed to be :)
 
What I'm getting at, I think, is how would the community feel about a "Reborn" version of certain capital ships? Obviously I would love to make the originals awesome rather than totally redesign, and I'm not a modeller, texturer or anything-else-er so it's easy for me to post this and complain.

Are there any models that people agree would just plain look better with a bit of excessive tweaking and chopping and gluing?

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
Um have you ever used the MediaVPs

 

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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
So am I the only one, or does any one else feel that with Volition laid a few turds with their capital ship designs? Some they totally nailed so it balances out happily for me however:
Yes, but not the ones you listed for the reasons listed.
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- Lucifer: Is this an ant with it's 4 hind legs ripped off?
Somewhat, I guess, not but really.
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- Typhon: All I can ever think of is a dead bull-squid from half life

wat
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- Hecate: I love this ship
Ok, now I know you know nothing about pretty ships ever, the Hecate looks like a kitbash of random parts, a skull head, elephant ears, shark fins, lego blocks, etc. It doesn't look like a warship, let alone a ship at all.
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- Ravana: Very nice
- Iceni: Looks a bit small and weak but I've always like to think of it as the Hecate's evil little brother
- Hatshepsut: It reminds me a lot of a vacuum cleaner, but I still think it kicks ass
- Sathanas: This is the pinnacle of Volition's capital ship design, outstanding
since you're doing the whole asinine compare-ships-to-biology I guess that means I can do my own.
The Ravana looks like a hand;


The Iceni looks like a bird


The Hatshepsut looks like a ****ing vacuum cleaner, but you already said that.
The Sathans looks like a flea


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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
The ravana reminds me of some kind of hand blaster, and it even fit's it's use :) Hit and kill in 1 strike.
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Offline carn1x

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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
Um have you ever used the MediaVPs

Yes and they definitely sexify things, put some of them really are polishing turds in my opinion.

I dunno what it is, every space game I look at, capital ships just look beefy, heroic, dominating and many designs just "make sense" like when you hear a song that's really awesome and you think "Yeah this song just wrote itself." Some of the Volition capships just look like they took a bad idea and tried to make it work rather than scrap it and start again.

 

Offline Mars

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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
Hmm.

Fenris&Levi --> Turtle
Sobek -> Half chicken leg
Deimos, Orion -> (Awesome) brick
Colossus -> Not so awesome giant pistol

 

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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
Fenris&Levi --> Turtle
Sobek -> Half chicken leg

I uh, don't see how a turtle looks like a Fenris or Leviathan, an Aten, perhaps, but not the Fenris.

And the Sobek looks more like a Vasudan penis if there was one. :P
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline Mars

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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
You have a point about the Fenris turtle thing.

 

Offline Rga_Noris

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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
Hatty looks like a razor.

« Last Edit: January 04, 2011, 12:46:36 am by Rga_Noris »
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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
I guess it depends n what you look for (or expect...or prioritize) in ship design.


Personally, I value both aesthetic appeal and functionality.
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I'm not going to say anything but just enjoy this thread before it gets closed.

 

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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
No need to wait. This is more GenFS stuff than anything else, so I'm moving it.
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Offline Mort

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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
Everyone has their own opinions. I think the hecate looks awesome but doesn't fit with the designs of the other terran capital ships.

 

Offline Marcov

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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
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- Lucifer: Is this an ant with it's 4 hind legs ripped off?

No, not really. The Lucifer looks like a legless, malevolent lobster without antennae (it has them with the MEDIAVPS). Thank you, Axem, very much, for making me get the perfect match for the Lucy (there's a mission in JAD where it's referred to as a "Demon Lobster").

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- Orion: This is pure Terran awesomeness

True. It looks like a plump, space skyscraper.

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- Iceni: Looks a bit small and weak but I've always like to think of it as the Hecate's evil little brother

IMO it looks like a tough nut to crack. Its hull looks very heavily armored, really.

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- Sathanas: This is the pinnacle of Volition's capital ship design, outstanding

I think it looks like a giant bug with crablike claws at front.

Hatty looks like a razor.



3.6.12 made the Hatty have reptilian skin :p.
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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
I actually love the design of the Hecate. I don't now why everyone likes the Orion so much to be honest; I guess I just never really got the 'block of rock' thing that everyone likes to say here. It never looked particularily powerful to me. Meanwhile on the Hecate, everything is inflated in a way; sorta like that Typhoon/Hurricane thingamagig that got released recently. The engines, the turrets, everything is almost cartoonishly bulging with power. If only it wasn't tabled to be ****E.
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I think the Sath looks more like a tick (and is at least as dangerous as one :p )

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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
Hey, ticks give Lyme disease.  They're pretty lethal.
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Re: Volition Capital Ship Designs:Reborn?
I'm a fan of the Rakshasa myself;