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Offline Snail

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We don't know if there were other Demons. Shivan ships might have also been spread in a wide area thus making the coordination nearly impossible.
There almost certainly were other Demons. Many other named ones appeared in FS1 multiplayer missions, and I seriously doubt there were only 2 Demons (the Eva and Tantalus) in the entire Lucifer fleet.

Either way, it's possible there was ''internal drama'' (for lack of a better term) in which some Demons may not have wanted to cooperate with each other (disintegration of the hive mind authority) or, as stated, might not have been able to coordinate over such long distances.

 

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Remember that there was a Demon in the Battle of Deneb as well...
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Remember that there was a Demon in the Battle of Deneb as well...
Thus reinforcing the argument that there were other Demons and undermining the argument that there weren't any other Demons...

 

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Either way, it's possible there was ''internal drama'' (for lack of a better term) in which some Demons may not have wanted to cooperate with each other (disintegration of the hive mind authority) or, as stated, might not have been able to coordinate over such long distances.

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Remember that there was a Demon in the Battle of Deneb as well...
Thus reinforcing the argument that there were other Demons and undermining the argument that there weren't any other Demons...

Well, are you sure that only two of them(Eva and Tantalus) were destroyed before the destruction of the Lucifer?
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My point is that there were almost definitely more Demons in the Lucifer fleet, whether before or after the Lucy's destruction.

 

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But it's important to determine wheter or not these Demons(or most of them) got annihilated before the Lucifer.
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But it's important to determine wheter or not these Demons(or most of them) got annihilated before the Lucifer.

         Not as important as you might think. The lack of a Demon after the destruction of the Lucifer doesn't  confirm the theory that they're some central hive, it only opens up the possibility that it might be. Whereas the presence of a Demon after the Lucifer goes down directly contradicts the idea. Either way, there's no canon evidence of a Demon aside from the Eva and Tantalus, at least not according to the Wiki.

 

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So you're giving for sure that the Demon seen in the Battle of Deneb was the Tantalus?
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Its not shown when during the battle of Deneb where that the FS2 intro takes place...it could have been the Eva even, I remember this begin discussed.
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I remember that it was discussed, yeah...

And as far as I know Evangelist preceeds the Battle of Deneb. Check the Wiki.
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Yeah, it does.
Which leaves two possibilities: SD Tantalus arrives during the battle (as in, after the destruction of the Galatea), or some other Demon arrives after the destruction of the Galatea.
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That Orion isn't the Galatea...in fanon it's the GTD Legion but meh...
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Yeah. The article says that the FS2 intro happens after doomsday.
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The Wiki covers both issues(Demon and Galatea).
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So you're giving for sure that the Demon seen in the Battle of Deneb was the Tantalus?

        All that cinematic says is that there was a Demon present at Deneb. It doesn't say it survived Deneb. Nor does it say it survived the destruction of the Lucifer. The only question that really matter is, was there a Demon still around after the Lucifer went down.

 

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Didn't the Eva die before the Battle of Deneb? :confused:
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I saw some cains and liliths debris on ST mission 4 (original) but no demon AFAIK.

 

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About the Eva being destroyed before the Battle of Deneb... I'm not too sure anymore.

Quote from: Evangelist Briefing
The Eva has entered the Deneb system. She is fully armed and poised to attack the Deneb-Vasuda Prime Jump Node.

She is protected by Arjuna and Krishna wings.

Alpha wing will lead an attack squadron to destroy the Eva. Alpha wing will fly bombers. Gamma and Beta will cover them.

We suggest you damage the weapons system on the Eva before you launch your Tsunami bombs. This will prevent the Eva from shooting them down.

You may need to call in a support ship to rearm yourself. It is estimated that at least twenty Tsunami bombs will be needed to take the Eva down.

Destroying the Eva is imperative. With the Lucifer in the system as well, we cannot tolerate the presence of another Shivan capital ship.

Good luck.

The Eva could have participated in the Battle of Deneb shown during the FS2 intro, jumped away for repairs after the battle before attempting to attack Vasuda Prime, where it was blown up by Alpha 1 & Co.

I haven't done much research into this, so I wouldn't be surprised if I got it wrong.

 

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My source is the list of inconcistencies, which surely has a background of reliable research on the matter...
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