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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Black Wolf on May 30, 2011, 11:23:50 am
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In response to the other thread. :D
Mine are all Aldo ships, which kinda surprised me when I ran through them on the wiki, but every time I think of a cool ship, it's one of his. I guess I'm just a fanboy :D.
Anyway, aesthetically, I love both the Leto (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTF_Leto) for it's old-school looks, and the Hestia (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTVF_Hestia) For what I think is one of the best blends of Terran and Vasudan looks of any ship, Uly included. But my overall favourite is the Selkie (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTF_Selkie) for it's utterly mental afterburner and dead-centre gun placement, combined with SOC-style good looks.
Honorable mentions to the GVF Reshef (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GVF_Reshef) for being one of the only properly good Vasudan fighters pre-HTL (And remaining in the top 5, or even 3 nowadays), and to the Seshat (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/PVF_Seshat), for hitting the Zod look without actually looking immediately recognizable as following any of the established fighters aesthetics exactly.
So... anyone else?
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Anything and everything by --Steve-O-- is dead sexy.
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Hmm, this is interesting. Let's see...
GTF Atalanta for it's...well, ship design, six gun points, maneuverability.
UEF Uriel for the Archer.
WiH R1 UEB Durga for being able to mount twelve Gattlers in total.
CSA Aestival for it's Malachyye Missile Massacre, Phase Disruptors, Shard Cannon, insane maneuverability, speed and...ship design. Infinity Light Fighter for it's beam cannons!
Uhh...probably a couple of INFR ships, in the past. ASW's main fighter (Vishnan too, if it counts) was pretty decent as well.
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UEF Kentauroi for starters, awesome fighter that gotten me killed in numerous situations when madly barreling down the targeting sights of a Diomedes while chasing a half-dead Perseus.
And the GTF Nyx, eats the Tevs for breakfast. Wonder how it would stack up against Gefs...
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I'd say Moscow, but that ain't a fighter.
The Notus for being something earthly-looking with an interesting background.
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It's a toss up between the Atalanta and the Uriel, both in their WiH appearances, for me.
I also have a soft spot for the Herc Mk III.
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Kentauroiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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Ezechiel and Rhea.
If I could make a campaign starring only those fighters!
Hmmm, oh wait...
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The GTF Nyx (Ezechiel), I love the design madly, and its performance in WiH makes it even better.
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GVDr Scarab
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Nyx/Ezechiel for me. Love that ship.
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I'd say Moscow, but that ain't a fighter.
Isn't the Moscow bugged?
I like the Nyx
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I was always partial to the Vesuvius, but could never articulate a reason.
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UEF Uhlan.
Reminds me of those Space: Above and Beyond fighters.
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Nyx Gunships. Nuff said.
And the Kentauroi. Must be the afterburner speed. I frickin love that fighter.
That Perseus with the hat from JAD. Nuff said. Needs a monocle.
ZE PROMETHEUS FRAME OFF COURZE!
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I loved the GTF Alves (also an Aldo model :) ) but my favourite now has to be the HEF Blizzard (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/HEF_Blizzard).
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How could I have forgotten the Blizzard? That definately needs to be mentioned.
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The Kentauroi and Uriel are pretty sweet (also because Slammer). Also the Scimitar/Leto because oldskool. The Nyx is cool, I guess, but too short afterburner time for my liking.
From Wings of Dawn I really like the Ray-III E (the fast one) because fast (but not useless like the Kaze). Also the Nordera fighters, because they're steampunk and carry cool sounding weapons (ker-chunk) and make big pretty splosions. I didn't really like the Prometheus Frame (but I liked both Infi and Dawn). The Prometheus Frame always seemed more like an armored car to me than an invincible super ship.
I've always been partial to the Hercules Mark III (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTF_Hercules_Mark_III) because it's sort of like an Ares-Erinyes-Herc2 hybrid.
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Kentauroi, Nyx, and Atalanta from WiH. From WoD, the Ray III-W and the upgraded Caliburn.
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Kentauroi because of its backwards afterburner.
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The Kelpie in Transcend. Those things looked so cool.
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So did the Losna. But as I recall they were kind of buggy.
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GVDr Scarab
trololol
Deadly in a Shadow reminded me, the Prometheus Frame is also awesome. It's like the only opportunity you get to fly some epic fighter and destroy wave after wave of enemies.
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I like flying the Vesuvius from Inferno--it just turns so freakin' fast you have to work to lose somebody in your crosshairs.
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ZE PROMETHEUS FRAME OFF COURZE!
Deadly in a Shadow reminded me, the Prometheus Frame is also awesome. It's like the only opportunity you get to fly some epic fighter and destroy wave after wave of enemies.
Comparing the Prometheus Frame to any other existent FS fighter is like comparing a flintlock musket to a modern artillery piece. One is descended from the other. In pretty much no other way are they related.
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Where are they comparing? There is no comparing, I see people expressing their fondness of the ship.
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Comparing the Prometheus Frame to any other existent FS fighter is like comparing a flintlock musket to a modern artillery piece. One is descended from the other. In pretty much no other way are they related.
:lol:
[EDIT] just so this post contributes to the thread I would also like to express my admiration of the Cyrvan Aestival. Not as a fighter, but as a power source for weaponized QuantumDelta annoyance.
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In a twisted fantasy, I'd love to take the Prometheus Frame against the Collossus or Sathanas.
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In a twisted fantasy, I'd love to take the Prometheus Frame against the Collossus or Sathanas.
I'd like to see the Hertak and their battle thralls fighting against shivans. And a Shivan Incursion into LSF space.
CROSSOVER!!!!
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This classic one (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/SOF_Horae), though If you were allowing bombers i'd have to choose the Jotun DH (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/SOB_Jotun_D.H.) EVERY TIME.
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I admit, despite never having flown one I have a soft spot for the Jotun.
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HTL Jotun would be kewls.
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The Jotun is the Gargant of fighters. Too huge for common sense.
inb4DarthWang
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The Jotun is the Gargant of fighters. Too huge for common sense.
inb4DarthWang
There was actually a mini-Jotun released, if you're too lazy to scale it down yourself.
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EAB Holler. No, wait, this thread is about fighters... then, GTF Ezechiel. :nod:
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Durandal is a lovely model.
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The Jotun is the Gargant of fighters. Too huge for common sense.
Probably because it's a... bomber, not a fighter. :P
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I meant fighters in general. As in, ships with a cockpit. Blame me for being a HW player before being a FS one.
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In Homeworld everything was Strike Craft. :P
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In Homeworld everything was Strike Craft. :P
Fecking Corvettes
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Don't talk **** about my Heavy Vettes. HW2 Corvettes were kinda...meh, though.
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Gunships were a lot better at defending themselves than the circle-strafing, barely-any-fire-arc-in-their-guns Corvettes.
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Gunships were a lot better at defending themselves than the circle-strafing, barely-any-fire-arc-in-their-guns Corvettes.
Yeah, thats all well and good, but, like most ships in 2, Gunships had paper-thin armor and **** range. HW1 Corvettes, particularly Heavies, were tough as all hell and tailor made to kill whatever was in front of them. Hence, I am a bit more fond of the latter.
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Inty/Desty combo rush ftw. I took on my own 3 Expert AI players teamed against me with it.
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as dogfightersor heavy assult terrans is the GTF Keres and on shivan site the SF Gorgon(both heavy fighters with heavy primary and secondary and so on.
Peter
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LSF Ray mk IV...oh, that's not released! So then LSF Ray Mk III E! ...oh, wait that's not an FSverse made fighter.
I guess I'll default to BP's version of the GTF Aurora. For some reason, I'm very much mesmerized by it and I just like how it flies. It's strange, since I really hated the Valkyrie in FS1, but I'm totally fine with flying this, though it has much better gun placement for both of its banks unlike the Valk.
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(http://mightymitedoggear.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/this%20thread%20is%20worthless%20without%20pics.gif)
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(http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/images/Ufnotus.jpg)
No longer worthless. :cool:
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(http://mightymitedoggear.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/this%20thread%20is%20worthless%20without%20pics.gif)
ask and you shall recieve!
For combat performance:
(http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af321/0rph3u5/FS%20Open/Phylakis2.jpg)
SoI's AF Phylakis (10 cycling guns points of pure stopping power combined with 120 m/s ;) - doesn't have an afterburner and no shields though)
For having and not believing:
(http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af321/0rph3u5/FS%20Open/randomscreenno13.jpg)
The GTF Antaeus; I just love the classic Herc-style ;)
For wanting and not getting:
The GTF Latona; Apollo > Herc > every other design-line
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If it's just fighters than Trashman's Phoenix, if it's "flyable stuff" than definitely the Karuna :P
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(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1208/unledkjp.jpg)
The WiH GTF Nyx
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Slammer to the head.
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best fighters? My own of course...
What? You expect me to endorse someone else???? :wtf:
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Like Trashman, Mine is the GVF Shu Mk II and that on is just a stop gab design. Wait when the Mk V comes out. :)
Oh and yes the GTF Ezechiel I redid..why the hell do some call it the Nyx? :nono:
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Like Trashman, Mine is the GVF Shu Mk II and that on is just a stop gab design. Wait when the Mk V comes out. :)
Oh and yes the GTF Ezechiel I redid..why the hell do some call it the Nyx? :nono:
Because the Nyx is the Blue-Planet version which looks awesome too.
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The Ezechiel is becoming more recognized as the Nyx because of its affiliation with Blue Planet, which is mentioned much more than other mods that use the Ezechiel.
I've noticed barely anyone uses the original names for the UEF ships by now, they don't call it Lancer, Jackal, Wraith, Banshee, Saracen, etc. The Kvasir as well is more frequenly refered to as the Atalanta.
Also, as far as bombers go the Stheno is bumped up to my number one slot. Sexy beast with weapons galore.
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Like Trashman, Mine is the GVF Shu Mk II and that on is just a stop gab design. Wait when the Mk V comes out. :)
Oh and yes the GTF Ezechiel I redid..why the hell do some call it the Nyx? :nono:
Ezechiel sounds like a friendly Amish guy, so it was renamed for War in Heaven as the Nyx.
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Would it help if he was spelled with a K?
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Would it help if he was spelled with a K?
A little less friendly, a little more Hot Topic
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ahhh ok good thanks for the heads up on why fellas :)
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AF Tylisos
(http://i55.tinypic.com/168y0kk.jpg)
For an interceptor it doesn't actually have a lot in the way of speed but it has a pretty good secondary capacity. Combine that with a slim profile from nearly all angles and fairly heavy armor and you've really got something. Now the real bonus is it's three forward facing Pharnec turrets which makes it almost impossible to properly evade. Jink all you want, but when you are in front of this thing you'll feel the pain. Overall that makes it better suited for space superiority than the Kato. You'll find killing Aesdherians Darts to be much easier with this than anything else the Ancients have.
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(http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/images/Tfgefjon.png)
I wish I could say the Gefjon. I really do. Eight guns, lots of room for missiles, excellent stats all around. And like everything from Esarai, it's absolutely beautiful.
But look where the primaries are. And now realize that the Gefjon is the size of an Artemis. I've had all eight of my shots form a neat trapezoid perfectly centered on a Herc II and watched them all go around it.
I'm in the early stages of writing a short campaign for which I had been planning on the player flying only the Gefjon, but trying to dogfight in one is a miserable enough experience that I'm really considering centering the campaign around the Stheno and modifying mission concepts as necessary. Sure, it maneuvers like a capship, but when you do line up a perfect shot on something, it will hit.
So, my answer is the Stheno. :D
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The answer is clearly gun convergence. :P
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There's also the Skjlolrodor (Esarai's interceptor).
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The Jotun is the Gargant of fighters. Too huge for common sense.
inb4DarthWang
The Jotun is actually only 55m long with its shields and modeled thruster flames removed, not 70. It's really not that huge.
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Would it help if he was spelled with a K?
A little less friendly, a little more Hot Topic
I'm not sure where the Hot Topic comes from because "Ezekiel" is a more common spelling for bearded men in funny hats than "Ezechiel".
EDIT: I totally forgot I had a post at the bottom of this topic already.
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It's been a while since I flew any user-made ships, but of my own ships I always liked the Azaes (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTB_Azaes) as a sort of Bomber version of the Myrmidon, but the Maul cannon mounted on it needed table-work.
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Bit late to the party, but I can't be bothered to care.
Favorite non-canon fighter, eh? In a test mission I once dicked around with a FTFx Thor (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/FTFx_Thor) and single-handedly killed a Lucifer. As a heavy fighter nut, I gotta give big points to such ridiculous gunboats, but I realize the impracticality and gratuitousness of such ships.
In-campaign, I gotta give the cake to the UEF Uhlan; I simply never was a fan of the Kentauroi (shock horror), it simply went too fast! Looking back, I guess the Uhlan's tiny target profile also helped keep me alive a lot. Yeah, the Uhlan is kinda mediocre as far as the UEF ships go, but UEF fighter performance is generally quite a bit better than most Tev contemporaries, so I'm willing to overlook the Uhlan's "mediocrity".
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Put me down for another Uriel and Kvasir/Atalanta.
Six Rapiers, two Gattlers, Archer, Vulcan turret(far exceeding the competence of any GT(V)A bomber turret), and a dozen Slammers, in the body of a stretched-out Zeus with attitude. :D
The Atalanta/Kvasir, OTOH, is a bit more balanced, with a nice centerline missile bank(Tempests) to combine with the quad gun bank, and speed and maneuverability to help press that advantage up close, plus a pair of nose-tip guns for precision turret sniping/bomb intercept. Style-wise...well, just look at it (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/File:Gtfatalanta.jpg). :cool:
EDIT(now having played with the Gefjon):
I'm in the early stages of writing a short campaign for which I had been planning on the player flying only the Gefjon, but trying to dogfight in one is a miserable enough experience that I'm really considering centering the campaign around the Stheno and modifying mission concepts as necessary. Sure, it maneuvers like a capship, but when you do line up a perfect shot on something, it will hit.
So, my answer is the Stheno. :D
Seriously, if you haven't looked into weapon convergence yet, try adding
$Convergence:
+Automatic
much as in the provided sample TBM for the Gefjon. Makes it quite pleasant to dogfight in, and one can even throw in Tempests at close range(I added a +Minimum Distance of 750, and the guns are still quite decent close up).
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Finally got off my ass and played with convergence. It worked pretty well, so thanks for the tip.
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Any fighter by Esarai. Skoldjr, Kvasir (also known as the Atalanta), Gefjon, and Stheno all look offscale-awesome.